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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Sat May 30, 2020, 09:50 AM May 2020

MN Gov said protests are being infiltrated by white supremacists

Crime cartels and anarchists. Walz spoke at about 2:30am ET with the Mayor . He said that some of the arsons were strategic and professionally set and that various groups were burning and looting for their own agenda. Seeing tons of videos on Twitter of white guys dressed in black destroying and smashing.

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MN Gov said protests are being infiltrated by white supremacists (Original Post) octoberlib May 2020 OP
Not Doubting Your Report, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2020 #1
Here's a link to NBC, although the Governor does say "unconfirmed reports" catbyte May 2020 #4
Here is a link to his press conference laying this out. pazzyanne May 2020 #28
Do you have any links handy? I thought that might happen-Russia. 58Sunliner May 2020 #2
I've seen it on NBC and a local Fox affiliate, but not quite accurate... Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #5
Seems more like he's just confirming that he's seen reports to this effect. Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #3
He said he had intel. octoberlib May 2020 #6
Right. Unconfirmed intel Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #7
It was at 2:30 and I was half asleep, lol. octoberlib May 2020 #15
Per your last sentence Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 #8
Black Bloc were the first group I thought of. octoberlib May 2020 #19
Black Bloc, but not by named, was mentioned by Ilsa May 2020 #36
He's making a statement now. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #9
Thank you. octoberlib May 2020 #11
Gov, Mayor, Police Chief... all calling out the actors. blaze May 2020 #12
I watched it on MSNBC... ewagner May 2020 #31
Yes. I believe it. Walleye May 2020 #10
Joy Reid just said that Walz mentioned possible FOREIGN intervention, so he's talking bullwinkle428 May 2020 #13
+1 uponit7771 May 2020 #20
Whoa! Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #27
St. Paul mayor just said everyone arrested in St. Paul last night was from out of state. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #14
Not just the ones in Minneapolis, either. GoCubsGo May 2020 #16
+1, and DC ... there's a vid of some people in DC doing some shady shit uponit7771 May 2020 #21
+1 ... I haven't any doubt either Auggie May 2020 #34
+33... n/t Harker May 2020 #35
A must read article Skidmore May 2020 #17
Holy f.... Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #25
Let me SECOND THAT! ewagner May 2020 #32
After reading that its plain The RW wants us dead Kaiserguy May 2020 #43
cant read story as my adblocker is on. i have a reason for it being on. AllaN01Bear May 2020 #47
the mayor of St. Paul was just speaking...... Takket May 2020 #18
+1 uponit7771 May 2020 #22
+1 2naSalit May 2020 #24
Russian State TV is on this. Hortensis May 2020 #23
+1000 ancianita May 2020 #40
I missed this bit from the Kremlin via RT: Hortensis May 2020 #42
Always does Antifa get lied about and conflated with RW fascists. It's a 'tell' of RT. ancianita May 2020 #46
That's what it looked like to me wryter2000 May 2020 #26
It seems to be in areas that Trump doesn't like, is that correct? LiberalArkie May 2020 #29
The only thing keeping this from getting worse is that it has stayed in the cities Amishman May 2020 #30
MN's governor doesn't even know who the white supremacists are. They're not who he says. ancianita May 2020 #33
He said he has names and he'll be releasing them. octoberlib May 2020 #37
Great. I'm holding my breath. ancianita May 2020 #38
Of course there are. Fla Dem May 2020 #39
Don't forget the White Dude was doing his best to bring police to a peaceful demonstration by LiberalArkie May 2020 #41
My first guess was black bloc anarchists tirebiter May 2020 #44
Black bloc exist to let paramilitaries know that protestors have a defense force line. They ancianita May 2020 #49
I think that might be one explanation of why we are seeing spontaneous eruptions in multiple states. usaf-vet May 2020 #45
This!! and it is about time Peacetrain May 2020 #48
Great point Trump wants to disrupt elections any way he can. usaf-vet May 2020 #50
Minnesota becomes Ground Zero Hekate May 2020 #51

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
1. Not Doubting Your Report, Ma'am
Sat May 30, 2020, 09:57 AM
May 2020

It would be useful to have a link to the Governor's statements. That this is a fact is obvious, and it is good official attention is being paid to it.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
5. I've seen it on NBC and a local Fox affiliate, but not quite accurate...
Sat May 30, 2020, 10:01 AM
May 2020

They are reporting that the governor admitted he's heard reports this could be the case. He said the reports are unconfirmed, but he has heard the claims.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
7. Right. Unconfirmed intel
Sat May 30, 2020, 10:03 AM
May 2020

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the intelligence turns out to be accurate, but we just don't know at this point.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
15. It was at 2:30 and I was half asleep, lol.
Sat May 30, 2020, 10:28 AM
May 2020

Yeah, Im seeing tons of video of white guys attacking CNN and the College Football Hall of Fame in Atlanta. Setting fire to the post office sounds like rw anti- government shit. Hope he gets confirmation.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)
8. Per your last sentence
Sat May 30, 2020, 10:05 AM
May 2020

Last edited Sat May 30, 2020, 10:43 AM - Edit history (1)

Sounds like Black Bloc anarchists. They're well known for infiltrating peaceful protests and doing this kind of shit.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
19. Black Bloc were the first group I thought of.
Sat May 30, 2020, 10:40 AM
May 2020

I know they showed up in Ferguson destroying cop cars and at the G-20.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
36. Black Bloc, but not by named, was mentioned by
Sat May 30, 2020, 12:01 PM
May 2020

Joy Reid, IIRC. She said she was in Ferguson when infiltrators starting using the propests for nefarious means.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,329 posts)
9. He's making a statement now.
Sat May 30, 2020, 10:09 AM
May 2020

"Last night is a mockery of pretending this is about George Floyd's death or inequities or traumas to our communities of color. Let's be very clear. The situation in Minneapolis is no longer in any way about the murder of George Floyd. It's about attacking civil society."

He also said that domestic terrorists and extremists are involved. He used the words domestic terrorists.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
31. I watched it on MSNBC...
Sat May 30, 2020, 11:51 AM
May 2020

He said they have intelligence and suspicions but he also noted, early in his presentation, that there was a core of protesters who were well-directed, deliberate and organized in their destructive efforts.

The early video I watched from Minneapolis showed "kids"....college age students, marching and walking as if it was not only a peaceful, near spontaneous demonstrations but also something resembling a "date night"... Those folks had nothing resembling destruction on their minds...they were there for something they believed in..

I also saw the video of the "umbrella guy".....there is no doubt in my mind that white supremicists groups are fomenting violence...trying to discredit the legit protestors..

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
13. Joy Reid just said that Walz mentioned possible FOREIGN intervention, so he's talking
Sat May 30, 2020, 10:27 AM
May 2020

with Homeland Security.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
16. Not just the ones in Minneapolis, either.
Sat May 30, 2020, 10:29 AM
May 2020

I have no doubt they're stirring shit in Atlanta, Detroit, Oakland, and everywhere else.

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
43. After reading that its plain The RW wants us dead
Sat May 30, 2020, 12:30 PM
May 2020

Be careful out there and watch your back don't make it easy for them.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
18. the mayor of St. Paul was just speaking......
Sat May 30, 2020, 10:29 AM
May 2020

He said they only arrested of handful of persons how were antagonizing last night and ALL of them were from outside the state.....

talk about your "crisis actors".

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. Russian State TV is on this.
Sat May 30, 2020, 11:07 AM
May 2020
"The governor also said he was receiving intelligence from federal agencies about various elements, including drug cartels, trying to “take advantage of the chaos.” The claim caused considerable eye-rolling on social media, with people noting that vandalized buildings and businesses were tagged with anarchist symbols, “black lives matter” and anti-police slogans – not exactly the usual fare from white supremacists."


No mention that our own intelligence services say Russia has been specifically planning chaos around our elections. Of course.

No mention that St. Paul's black mayor said that "people in the movement" are reporting that organized, outside agitators are breaking windows, throwing incendiary devices, and otherwise inciting violence, then moving back into crowds and using them as shields for the mass destruction in black neighborhoods that follows. The inciters are being reported seen moving from location to location.

And no mention that current estimates are that a majority of the rioters are NOT from the community or protesting the murder of George Floyd.

This is above all our own RW powers desperate to keep power. But those have developed corrupt, treasonous relationships with foreign hostiles to protect their very big common interests. And take down their common enemy.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
42. I missed this bit from the Kremlin via RT:
Sat May 30, 2020, 12:30 PM
May 2020
Some commentators have been arguing that the protests and rioting in Minneapolis and across the United States have been at least partly coordinated by Antifa and other far-left groups.


Ah! Far left, NOT RW. Got it. Who are those commentators pushing the RT line? The usual suspects?

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
46. Always does Antifa get lied about and conflated with RW fascists. It's a 'tell' of RT.
Sat May 30, 2020, 12:38 PM
May 2020

It's our media's 'tell' that they fall for such simplistic propaganda.

That's why Antifa only comes out when fascists show go loud and public. The rest of the time, they melt back into the community.

Antifa are everywhere. Their history is long, and Germany wouldn't be what it is today without them.

But they are a defensive force, not ever provocateures.

wryter2000

(46,039 posts)
26. That's what it looked like to me
Sat May 30, 2020, 11:23 AM
May 2020

Watching the other night, I thought, "I don't think all those young, white people are there for good reasons."

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
30. The only thing keeping this from getting worse is that it has stayed in the cities
Sat May 30, 2020, 11:40 AM
May 2020

Everything has been happening in or near impoverished minority neighborhoods. Rightwing nutjobs fled years ago.

If this spreads further it's going to run into some of the millions of armed bigots who'd love to shoot their guns empty into a crowd of rioters and call it self defense.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
33. MN's governor doesn't even know who the white supremacists are. They're not who he says.
Sat May 30, 2020, 11:55 AM
May 2020

Last edited Sat May 30, 2020, 01:16 PM - Edit history (1)

He's using an old playbook to demonize freedom fighters against the white supremacists who back racial capitalism.

It's explained by Harvard historian, Walter Johnson. This MN governor, hell, all governors, had better read him.


The Broken Heart of America: St. Louis and the Violent History of the United States. Basic Books. 2020. (This is his latest, reviewed in The New Yorker.)

"State of the Field: Slavery" (2004), Organization of American Historians

Fla Dem

(23,656 posts)
39. Of course there are.
Sat May 30, 2020, 12:25 PM
May 2020

I listened to the Gov's press conference this morning. I am not surprised one bit that there is a significant number of infiltrators/agitators doing a lot of the damage in Minneapolis. They have everything to gain in burning down the infrastructure of Black communities, causing mayhem and smearing the Black community as unlawful, crazy rioters. Whether it's the KKK, Nazis or other White supremacy groups, they're reveling in the destruction they are doing to the Black communities in Minneapolis and other cities under the guise of protesting the death of George Floyd and the dicriminating actions of too many in law enforcement.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
41. Don't forget the White Dude was doing his best to bring police to a peaceful demonstration by
Sat May 30, 2020, 12:27 PM
May 2020

residents of the neighborhood.

tirebiter

(2,536 posts)
44. My first guess was black bloc anarchists
Sat May 30, 2020, 12:35 PM
May 2020

They love to turn peaceful protests into violent riots. When the Iraq invasion was being protested in Berkeley theh seemed to have a taste for breaking the bookstore windows.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
49. Black bloc exist to let paramilitaries know that protestors have a defense force line. They
Sat May 30, 2020, 12:40 PM
May 2020

exist to remind racial capitalism that its property is not more important than humans.

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
45. I think that might be one explanation of why we are seeing spontaneous eruptions in multiple states.
Sat May 30, 2020, 12:37 PM
May 2020

White supremacists and other RW provocateurs being "encouraged" (certainly not discouraged) by the racist in chief living in the WH.

I would bet that there has been a game plan waiting on the shelf to implement the moment they had a white vs black shooting.

POTUS wants and needs a distraction to get the press away from reporting Covid-19 deaths, millions filing unemployment claims, his current falling polling numbers, and his losing international issues with China and W.H.O.

And here is further evidence of an organized plan in play.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213507588

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
48. This!! and it is about time
Sat May 30, 2020, 12:39 PM
May 2020

We have been talking among ourselves here in Iowa, that something like this would happen...that the far far edges would try and derail the election anyway they could!!

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