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Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
Wed May 27, 2020, 10:36 AM May 2020

They are hiding the death data - resistance to crossing the 100,000 death mark

Notice how the covid-19 death count has slowed as it approached 100,000?

Here is the CDC's Daily Updates of Totals by Week and State as of today, May 27, 2020:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

Please note the number of deaths reported for the latest week, ending May 23, 2020.

Covid-19 deaths plummeted from 3,206 on week ending May 16, 2020, to only 155 on week ending May 23, 2020.

But then look at the percent of expected deaths column for the last 4 weeks.

May 2nd - 111%
May 9th - 99%
May 16th - 63%
May 23rd - 8%. !!!????

This shows that they are under reporting deaths to keep the number under the artificial target of 100,000 deaths, but they cant hide the fact because it shows in the total number of expected deaths for the week.

92% of all deaths on week ending May 23rd, 2020 have not been reported. And the decline in death reports since May 2nd shows that there is a systematic bias.

Why is the media not looking at this?



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brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
1. Sorry - don't buy it
Wed May 27, 2020, 10:38 AM
May 2020

Unless you assume they're going to keep the number under 100,000 permanently, there's no point delaying the result for a day or two.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. I do. I've wondered how come the exponential surge
Wed May 27, 2020, 10:53 AM
May 2020

toward 100,000 dead that mercifully had slowed and begun a downward but still dreadful slope suddenly turned into a very slow creep over a week and through Memorial Day weekend -- and still not there. Deaths in some states, like our own, GA, are still climbing and not yet hit their (first) peak.

That extremely symbolic holiday would be a reason for culpable politicians to delay that horrible marker of their achievement until afterward, and the CDC compiles data provided by state and local governments, and probably other institutions.

edhopper

(33,573 posts)
5. It's not a day or two
Wed May 27, 2020, 10:57 AM
May 2020

the actual number is closer to 130,000 and they want to suppress the actual numbers as they climb, especially in open States.

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
6. I'm currently attributing the small number to a lag in reporting caused by the holiday weekend.
Wed May 27, 2020, 10:59 AM
May 2020

However, if the trend doesn't return to the mean over the next few days, I'm open to the idea of manipulation.

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
16. The Federal Government doesn't control counts...
Wed May 27, 2020, 11:34 AM
May 2020

...they're coming from the States, which don't all play along.

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
18. And the Blue one's aren't, which will push the total up...
Wed May 27, 2020, 12:12 PM
May 2020

I see no value in delaying the inevitable by a day or two.

brush

(53,771 posts)
19. Of course there's no value in it, but it's happened. The 100k mark...
Wed May 27, 2020, 09:35 PM
May 2020

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was "officially" passed today but I suspect, and you probably do too, know that it was passed days, maybe even weeks ago, save for the suppression.

As far as why the repugs would delay it for a day or two, there's not too much logic in much of what comes from trump and the repugs. They don't seem to care if seniors die, and seniors are one of their biggest voting blocks.

House of Roberts

(5,168 posts)
2. 'The media' need to collect data on ALL deaths,
Wed May 27, 2020, 10:48 AM
May 2020

and compare to year over year averages, and extrapolate the real numbers. Then they can hold the liars accountable who are under reporting the deaths.

Indykatie

(3,696 posts)
3. I Noticed The Split between Covid Only and COVID + Pneumonia Deaths
Wed May 27, 2020, 10:52 AM
May 2020

Why break out these 2 categories of deaths? Some of the Pneumonia Only deaths are also COVID deaths that were not tested for COVID for whatever reason. You are right to assume the Trump administration will lie and under report the cases and deaths.

Bev54

(10,048 posts)
7. The 100,000 mark was crossed yesterday
Wed May 27, 2020, 11:14 AM
May 2020

on worldometer which is WHO. I agree we are not getting true pictures from the US on deaths. This is exactly what Trump accused Xi of doing. He was projecting again. Currently at 100,765

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
10. M$M still reporting a number shy of 100K
Wed May 27, 2020, 11:24 AM
May 2020

That's the source and number consumed by most Americans, so the only one the orange blob cares about.

Bev54

(10,048 posts)
15. I have no idea where they
Wed May 27, 2020, 11:31 AM
May 2020

are getting their numbers from but they are consistently a day or two behind.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
14. There is a 1 to 8 week lag
Wed May 27, 2020, 11:28 AM
May 2020

according to the "*" in the report. I don't know if lag has grown in recent weeks. It looks like they are lagging about 4 weeks in these tables and it is likely that some of the April data may also still be incomplete.

Obviously we did not get through a week with only 1610 total deaths from all causes when it would normally be around 55,000.

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