Never been a fan of Cenk Uygur but

[Dem4Life1102]

he's making a good point.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[boston bean]

1. Fuck that POS. He is no democrat. He is a Propagandist.

He’ll primary Biden in 2024. Go eff ur self cenk.

[Dem4Life1102]

3. Did you read his tweets?

He's pushing people on the left to vote for Biden. Do you think voting for Biden is a bad thing?

[boston bean]

5. He can do whatever he wants. He always does. Doesn't make him someone who is a democrat.

He is a real pos.

[Dem4Life1102]

6. Never said he was

But he is doing the right thing here.

[boston bean]

7. With his holier than thou Biden's not a "progressive" propaganda.

He can go screw himself. Doing right or wrong he can fuck off. Truly. Can you see I detest him and his ilk.

He/They are a reason for trump.

[Dem4Life1102]

8. Yet he is urging people on the left to vote for Biden

Why is that bad?

[boston bean]

10. He is a pos. Period end of story.

Anyone who claims to be a progressive bashing Biden while saying they will reluctantly vote for him, deserves what? A gold star?

Bunch of stupid idiots. If they don’t know what to do to prevent trump and need someone to cajole them, they are useless.

I could give a shit less what he says.

You should to.

[Dem4Life1102]

12. No he is urging people to vote for Biden

It is a shame you can't see past your hate for the man to give him credit for doing the right thing.

[boston bean]

16. LOL

That man is a not a friend to joe Biden, the Democratic Party, he’s a Russian tool. Propagandist.

I refuse to let him have any power over democratic policies or politics by giving credence to anything he says or does.

He can take his “progressive” marbles and shove them where the sun don’t shine.

Tired of being held hostage by the like of him. Do the right thing and keep your criticisms of Biden to yourself.

He really is a pos. Sorry, he really is.

[Dem4Life1102]

18. So his urging people to vote for Biden is

part of some Russian propaganda plot? Interesting, please elaborate.

[boston bean]

19. His Biden isn't a progressive bullshit and that Biden needs to be pushed

While saying vote for the lesser of two evils is.

Were you alive last election?

[Dem4Life1102]

20. Yet He's urging people to vote for Biden

Still don't think that is a bad thing.

[boston bean]

21. Yet he's bashing Biden.

[Dem4Life1102]

22. How?

[boston bean]

23. Ummm the tweet starting with the subject/Title. " Biden has 1000 problems"

[Dem4Life1102]

24. And then tells people

to vote for Biden. Which is a good thing. Would you rather he was acting like Krystal Ball or Chris Hayes trying to still bring Biden down?

[boston bean]

25. And bashes. I've explained myself sufficiently enough to you.

You disagree with me.

I ain’t changing my opinion.

[Dem4Life1102]

26. So you still think urging people to vote for Biden

is a bad thing.

[The Magistrate]

28. Some People, Sir, Are Wrong Even When Right

This fellow is one of them. He put in too much work trying to rouse left idiots against Mr. Biden to be taken seriously, and his method, basically saying Mr. Biden is an ass who oughtn't to be the nominee, is not going to move the people whose minds he worked long and hard to poison.

In short --- fuck this dude. Twice.


"if you do the right thing for the wrong reasons, it doesn't make you good, just good at being wrong."

[JonLP24]

31. I didn't need any help from Cenk to not like Biden

I don't like him because of his bankruptcy bill and he was wrong about the Iraq war every step of the way.

I just wish the Democrats nominated Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, or anyone that was a more impressive candidate than Biden.

[The Magistrate]

34. The Man Is Far From a Favorite Of Mine, Sir

The 'Iraq War' thing is pointless flummery, but the bankruptcy bill is a serious thing, and so is his colossal mis-handing of Thomas and Ms. Hill.

I defend the Democratic nominee against the cheap thug squatting in the Oval Office, and at present do not give the north end of a southbound rat for anything he may have done previously.

It is an appallingly simple calculation.

Anyone who votes for Trump, anyone who has ever done anything to aid Trump in any way, is a traitor and an asshole.

Anyone who does not vote for the nominee of the Democratic Party for President, or acts in any way to discourage people voting for the Democratic nominee, for whatever reason or in whatever cause, is an asshole and a traitor.

Choose a side, and stick by it.



"Because you are lukewarm, I will spew you out of my mouth."

[Dem4Life1102]

43. So you think urging people to vote for Biden is bad?

[The Magistrate]

50. Not Near Enough To Undo The Harms He Has Caused, Sir, And Put Him In Good Grace

He doesn't get a cookie till he says:

'Folks, i was wrong. About Hillary, and about Biden. I was an ass and I did real harm to good people and to the country. So if you ever took me seriously, for fuck's sake don't. Stop listening to my bullshit from years, months, even just a few days ago. Sober up, and fucking vote for Biden. That's it. Just vote for Biden and every other fucking Democrat on your ballot.'

Or words readily recognizable to that effect....

[boston bean]

47. I think bashing Biden is a bad thing and don't give a shit about that pos.

Have I made myself clear?

[Dem4Life1102]

48. Yet he is urging people on the left to vote for Biden

How is that bad?

[boston bean]

51. He is bad. His bashing of Biden is bad.

His framing is dangerous. He is a pos. Anything more you need to know?

[Dem4Life1102]

53. But he's urging people to vote for Biden

How is that a bad thing?

[boston bean]

55. Who gives a fuck what the pos says. Why give him any microphone.

He is not helpful. He is a jerk. He is a sexist. I refuse to give that man any power in our body politics.

What do you care?

Listen, people are either gonna vote against trump or they are not. If they can’t figure out on their own without the added bashing of Biden, they are useless, dumb, idiots, dangerous.

What more do you want me to tell you?

[Dem4Life1102]

56. Still don't see how urging people to vote for Biden

is a bad thing.

[Dem4Life1102]

46. And then urges people to vote for Biden

still don't understand how that is a bad thing.

[boston bean]

49. I don't care about the man. He is a pos who bashed democrats.

He can do whatever he likes but I don’t accept him as either a democrat or a progressive.

He bashes Biden with this ridiculous lesser of two evils bullshit.

I give him no quarter. Again if people can’t find a reason for just voting Trumpass out as enough of a reason and stop the attacks and their unhappiness for not getting their freaking cookie. They can go to hell.

I really could give a shit less about this mans opinion. Got it?

[Dem4Life1102]

52. Sounds like you do care about his opinion

or you wouldn't have made so many posts about him. I just don't understand why you think urging people to vote for Biden is a bad thing.

[boston bean]

54. Ah no. I don't. I didn't write the OP.

I am telling you this means nothing. And that he is a pos and he should have no followers. He is not a democrat. he is an attack dog against democrats.

So, there you have it. Anything else?

[Dem4Life1102]

57. Could have fooled me

People that don't care don't respond so many times. Sounds more like someone is triggered.

[boston bean]

59. Obviously there is a lot of foolishness everywhere. Who cares about that POS.

Who cares what he says.

Again I don’t give a fuck. Not sure why you keep coming back to me.

But you know something. It’s my mother n laws 85 th birthday. Her family made a beautiful video for her. Made me cry cause my mom just died. Go play with some one else.

[Dem4Life1102]

62. The lady doth protests too much

[MrsCoffee]

64. Fuck Cenk.

And the Russians and Republicans he rode in on.

Defend him if you must, but lay off the personal attacks on people here.

[Dem4Life1102]

68. Not defending anyone

or attacking anyone. Just trying to understand why someone urging people to vote for Biden is a bad thing.

[boston bean]

69. You shouldn't be so hard on yourself.

[Dem4Life1102]

72. Lame comeback

[TheFarseer]

74. He has to be credible to his audience

He can’t suddenly say, “Joe Biden is actually way more progressive than Bernie. He’s really our ideal candidate. I wouldn’t change a single thing in his platform.”

There’s NO Advantage to voting Trump and don’t try to convince yourself you’re playing 4 dimensional chess by shitting on our allies is a credible message to TYT audience.

[Hav]

27. I'd agree with the second tweet

asking for the endgame of those "progressives" who'd rather see Trump win. That's an important question to think about for everyone who claims to care about universal healthcare, student debt or climate change, for example.
But Cenk is still a major ahole and his propaganda network isn't better than Fox, it may have even with less standards.

And concerning attacks on Biden, he and his other clowns on the TYT were pushing the Biden is senile smear again and again. They themselves are a reason for why their fans despise Democrats. They fueled that hatred.

Just with the Never Trumpers, I take any help to get rid of Trump but normally I'd say that TYT should just fuck off.

[JonLP24]

32. I feel lost because Democrats prefer Never Trumpers to Progressives

[Hav]

35. Well, Democrats should prefer Never Trumpers

who do their best to help Biden, will vote for him and who encourage others to vote for him in comparison to self-proclaimed "progressives" who call Biden senile and a rapist and who'd love to see Trump get another term. Easy choice.

Your problem shouldn't be with Democrats or Never Trumpers who prefer to see Biden win. We can distinguish between good progressive policies that are more likely to be implemented under Biden and some aholes who pretend they care about those policies but who are ok with the worst President ever who actively fights against these ideas.

[Dem4Life1102]

45. Well said nt

[The Magistrate]

37. 'Never Trumpers' Are Helping, Sir

And a number of people who call themselves 'progressives' are not just not helping, but actively trying to do harm. Even most people well to the left of center are sick and tired of it. So-called 'progressives' will be preferred when they stop acting like the left auxiliary of the Republican party.

[Dem4Life1102]

44. Or they prefer those supporting the democratic party nominee

to those attacking him.

[obamanut2012]

60. lol at you thinking Cenk is a Progressive

I'd take Nicole Wallace any day, even Ana Navarro. They also both voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016, whereas he didn't.

[theaocp]

63. Truly unfortunate.

Note and move on is my current philosophy. Talk about a purity test.

[JonLP24]

30. A Russian tool?

This kind of thing makes it impossible to convince progressives Russiagate was real.

[boston bean]

38. Yep.

[The Magistrate]

39. A Lot Of His 'Hillary Hate' Was Picked Up By RT, Sir

In the classic parlance, a 'useful idiot' --- someone who furthers the cause on their own, without even the dignity of needing payment to do so.

[MrsCoffee]

65. Yeah, how can you have a show on Russia's propaganda station and not be a Russian tool?

That duck was sighted long ago.

[obamanut2012]

67. yes, he is

[Mosby]

71. Yes. Fuck him.

[yardwork]

42. +1

[NurseJackie]

70. Thank you! I can't stand him...

... he and Michael Moore are cut from the same opportunist cloth.

[Iliyah]

2. In my opinion Cenk is no progressive . .

Nevertheless, I'm glad he will vote for VP Biden.

[sellitman]

4. The above comment #1

x 100

[AlexSFCA]

9. doesnt sound like endorsement to me

[SBoy]

11. The Biden purists

Are doing more harm to the VP than helping him. The Democratic Party is known for its Big Tent, but it appears that message is being squashed by some. A vote for Biden counts the same regardless of the political persuasions of those who cast them. And, don’t blame Cenk for 2016, he voted for HRC.

[BannonsLiver]

14. How is it being squandered?

What’s your point exactly?

[FreepFryer]

13. Cenk sucks worse at reverse psychology than he sucks at agitprop nt

[nsd]

15. You're putting the bar too low.

Okay, so Cenk isn't a complete tool. But so what? Does he deserve a cookie for that?

No, screw him.

[PatSeg]

33. I agree

He didn't get credit for begrudgingly casting a vote for Biden. His comments don't really help, but his silence might.

[Squinch]

17. He's an imbecile.

[Owl]

29. Ignore Cenk. He's a waste of time.

[dawg day]

36. Biden doesn't have 1000 problems.

I was mostly for Warren, but I'm coming to think that Biden is inoffensive enough to win, and experienced enough to hire a bunch of great aides and cabinet secretaries, and smart enough to take their advice.

He might be the best man for the job.
Man, that is.

[NanceGreggs]

40. Someone sent me a link ...

… to a Cenk show that aired right after it was clear that Biden would be the nominee – and Cenk immediately jumped on the “Joe has dementia” bandwagon.

He stated that we wouldn’t be seeing much of Joe anymore, because the Dems had to keep him ‘under wraps’ so no one would see his obvious mental incapacity between now and November.

I never followed up to hear Cenk’s explanation for the fact that Joe was on one TV show after another in the weeks that followed.

So Cenk is going to fight to make Joe more progressive, and he’s going to help primary him in 2024? Does Cenk really think Joe, or anyone else, is interested in what he has to say about anything?

[DFW]

58. The parts about "fighting" to make Biden progressive and primarying him in 2024 are both laughable

Cenk is going to fight, is he? With what? A dwindling media presence with failing finances? Firearms and explosives? Posters in front of the White House east entrance? Martial arts demonstrations?

And he is going to help primary an incumbent president who in all likelihood has no intention of running for a second term in the first place? Yeah, right, does anyone think that THAT kind of statement will REALLY make Joe Biden quake with fear and invite Cenk to his next policy staff meeting?

The problem with people thinking they are the center of the universe is that most of them are mistaken.

[betsuni]

41. Passive-aggressive as usual.

He and Michael Moore spend most of their time telling their audience that Democrats aren't progressive, rigging and plotting corrupt corporatists who ignore the working and middle class, the true roadblock to progressive policy and on and on. Then it comes time to vote and they are surprised that their "progressive" followers don't want to vote for the Democrat. It's like raising a child to be selfish and ignorant and being shocked that they turn out to be a selfish and ignorant adult.

[ismnotwasm]

61. No.

Just no.

[SlogginThroughIt]

66. oh fuck that guy!

What a bunch of garbage.

[Rstrstx]

73. At least he's not Kyle Kulinski

Someone actively sabotaging Biden's campaign

[aikoaiko]

75. I'm happy to have Cenk confront leftists and implore them to vote.

It's the right thing to do.