The birth of Girtherism

[donkeypoofed]

The Girther Movement has begun. Thank you Speaker Pelosi. Is he 239 lbs?! More like 299 lbs! How much do you think Cheatolini weighs?! It's gonna he so much fun to start a movement and a hashtag mocking him!

[lapfog_1]

1. instead of jelly beans in a jar

this will be "turds in a sack of shit"

[Captain Zero]

3. He is 10 pounds of shit in a five pound sack

nt

[Brother Mythos]

42. We used to call that "Filled to blivit," back in the day.

[Meadowoak]

2. 339 lbs would be my guess.

[smirkymonkey]

4. At least!

People have compared him to athletes who are his height who are in great shape who say the weigh more that his claimed weight. There is NO way he is 239 pounds. Easily add 100 pounds to that, if not more.

His full diaper alone must be about 50 pounds.

[mr_lebowski]

5. No way he weights 340, c'mon ...

Blubber is less dense than muscle.

I buy that he goes 280-290, but I definitely doubt he's over 300lbs.

Put it this way, here's Jared Veldheer, 6'8", around 330lbs. Standing next to a 6'2" 225lbs Aaron Rodgers.

340 lbs is a LOT of human being. Trump ain't that big. And he has no muscle to speak of.

[smirkymonkey]

7. Yeah, but he's probably got hamberders and KFC and cans of Diet Coke stashed

in all his pockets so that adds a bit of tonnage. And then again, the full diapers. And the truss, and the shoe inserts. I supposed if you stripped him down he'd be around the weight he claimed. It's hard to tell.

However he's probably carrying around some major compacted waste in there. Gross, I know, but with a diet like that, god knows how backed up he is. I just don't believe anything he tells us and I certainly don't believe that he is the weight he claims he is.

[Celerity]

8. My guess for Rump is 6 feet 1 inches tall, and around 20 and a half stones (287 pounds)

[Generic Other]

13. I think you might be right

Or close. I was multiplying his ranking as POTUS 45 x 2 = 90 + 100 IQ - 6 feet = 184

[Ilsa]

34. The doctor left off five stone. nt

[Alwaysna]

6. He should be encouraged to do what Pooty did. Ride a horse shirt less and show the world what kind

Of man he is.

[oldsoftie]

9. Oh God

[fleur-de-lisa]

10. That's horse abuse.

[csziggy]

47. Yeah - he'd be worse than that idiot sheriff who couldn't ride

I felt bad for that horse and that sheriff was half the size of Dolt45!

[safeinOhio]

16. Just make sure it's a

Clydesdale

[BunnyMcGee]

17. Or an Iron Horse

also known as a locomotive. Appropriate though, with all his noises, fumes, and under pressure!

[BannonsLiver]

20. The horse's back would break.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

11. I want to see the long form, certified DOT ticket from freshly calibrated scales.

[Ford_Prefect]

12. Do you want that in KG or Lbs? Are we allowing for wind resistance?

A blustery day could add so much more, don't you think?

[SoonerPride]

14. Show us your Girth Certificate

[scrabblequeen40]

15. weight shaming is dispicable

unless you're talking about Orange Ass. Looks are fair game with Trumpass. He should get as good as he gives.

[Ilsa]

35. I agree.

I wouldn't weight-shame any other human, except maybe lardass rush limbough.

[OnDoutside]

18. #PresidentPlump is trending on twitter !!!

[Brainfodder]

44. Accusing: President Plump did it in the kitchen with a spork!

I love CLUE and MASTER DETECTIVE CLUE!

[BannonsLiver]

19. I think he weighs just under 330 myself

[Wounded Bear]

21. 239 kilos...

[grantcart]

49. Lololol he doesn't have a clue how much that is.

[Wounded Bear]

52. You're probably right...nt

[WhiskeyGrinder]

22. A person's weight has nothing to do with their character, actions or morals.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

23. Given that Trump lies about his weight,

I think in his case there is a connection.

Of course he lies about everything.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

24. Right, he's a liar.

He lies about his weight because weight carries a stigma in this country. Making "morbidly obese" a punchline perpetuates that stigma and hurts people who don't have the power of the presidency behind them, without weakening the president himself.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

37. I believe the term "morbidly obese"

is a factual statement. Although in reality, since he lies about his height also, he's definitely obese, possibly morbidly so.

Pointing out facts about a person's height and weight is not necessarily body shaming.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

38. Expressing triumphant hilarity because Nancy Pelosi used a nonmedical term to describe

Trump's body is body shaming, however. It's entirely possible to slur someone you don't like. Doing so tells people you do like that you're willing to use slurs to describe them -- as long as you like them.

[NNadir]

26. As a person who often shames MY OWN body, I don't have a problem with this.

I am obese, and wish I were better able to address it; as it is I am suffering from muscular problems and cannot exercise quite yet, but the point is that this is one of Trump's most obvious lies, one that is so obvious that there may even be a dumbbell MAGA type who can get it.

I certainly know how difficult it is to control one's weight, as having dealt with it my whole adult life, but we can be overly sensitive.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

27. Thinking about stopping the practice of mocking people for physical traits that our friends and

allies share is not being overly sensitive.

Mocking Trump's weight and pointing out how he lies about it will not change anyone's vote or anyone's mind, and only adds to anti-fat bigotry that, in the end, hurts you.

[NNadir]

28. Well, personally, I regard my own obesity as a health problem.

I joke about it myself; but it's whistling in the dark to be sure.

Obesity is what will kill me.

I actually appreciate it when people, including my physician, needle me about it.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

29. Obesity is also not an indicator of poor health.

It can correlate with indicators of poor health. But it's possible to be obese and have high blood pressure and to then lose weight and still have high blood pressure. And it's possible to do things to mitigate that HBP, such as exercise regularly and change eating habits, and lower the blood pressure, and still be obese. On its own, obesity is not necessarily a "health problem."

You might find this article interesting: https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/everything-you-know-about-obesity-is-wrong/

[NNadir]

32. I'm a scientist working in the pharmaceutical field. I have worked on lipid physiology...

...for major portions of my career, and am a regular reader of major scientific journals in a cross disciplinary setting.

Included frequently are epidemiological papers. Obesity is a health risk, a very serious one, for diabetes, for heart disease, for strokes, for cancer, and - something with which I am currently struggling - muscular-skeletal syndromes.

Here is an open sourced paper from one of the most credible scientific journals, written by a consortium of health professionals from all over the world, Lancet, covering risk and mortality:

Global, regional, and national comparative risk assessment of 79 behavioural, environmental and occupational, and metabolic risks or clusters of risks, 1990–2015: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2015 (Lancet 2016; 388: 1659–724)

I invite you to open the paper, and search terms like BMI and Obesity, and then tell me I don't face risks from my weight.

It includes this text:

Between 1990 and 2015, global exposure to unsafe sanitation, household air pollution, childhood underweight,
childhood stunting, and smoking each decreased by more than 25%. Global exposure for several occupational risks,
high body-mass index (BMI), and drug use increased by more than 25% over the same period. All risks jointly evaluated in 2015 accounted for 57·8% (95% CI 56·6–58·8) of global deaths and 41·2% (39·8–42·8) of DALYs. In 2015, the ten largest contributors to global DALYs among Level 3 risks were high systolic blood pressure (211·8 million [192·7 million to 231·1 million] global DALYs), smoking (148·6 million [134·2 million to 163·1 million]), high fasting plasma glucose (143·1 million [125·1 million to 163·5 million]), high BMI (120·1 million [83·8 million to 158·4 million]), childhood undernutrition (113·3 million [103·9 million to 123·4 million]), ambient particulate matter (103·1 million [90·8 million to 115·1 million]), high total cholesterol (88·7 million [74·6 million to 105·7 million]), household air pollution (85·6 million [66·7 million to 106·1 million]), alcohol use (85·0 million [77·2 million to 93·0 million]), and diets high in sodium (83·0 million [49·3 million to 127·5 million])...

...Societal processes of urbanisation, the so-called westernisation of diets and lifestyles, and changes in employment activities, have all been viewed as primary drivers of changes in human health.21–24 Such shifts have been thought to lead to deteriorating diets, rising obesity, decreased physical activity, and, ultimately, to worsening levels of metabolic risks, with associated higher rates of cardiovascular diseases and cancers.25,26...

The bold is all mine.

You can believe what you want to believe, but this is a factual analysis, and facts matter.

One hears all kinds of things in pop information sites, and 90% of the time they include either huge inaccuracies, distortions, outright lies and/or a complete misapprehension of what is being said. My standard joke is that one cannot get a degree in journalism any more if one has passed a college level science course.

For most of my life, I was able to manage my weight by extreme exercise and rigorous attention to diet. However, I come from a long line of morbidly obese people. I'm not denying a genetic component, but am acknowledging that I can do things - which by the way I'm not doing - to ameliorate the risks of these genes. I am not doing these things now, and I fully and completely recognize my risks in not managing it.

I'm not in denial about my weight and it's effect on my health, irrespective of what journalists say. A lot of what passes for journalism these days is pernicious. I know I have a major health risk in failing to control my weight, but right now am not in condition to remedy it.

If people make fun of my weight - and they do - being an optimist, I tell myself that they care about me. That's not always true of course, but the social pressure to control my weight is one of those rare social pressures that can be good for me.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

39. I'm sorry to hear that you view mocking as an expression of care and the people in your life

feel like they can talk to you that way.

[NNadir]

40. I'm not sorry. I have a sense of humor and the people I love know that. There are, of course...

...people I don't love who make "fun" of my weight, but I couldn't care less, since they don't matter to me.

I live by Eleanor Roosevelt's advice, which is: "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."

It depends on one's outlook. I am aware of the consequences of my weight, and I am psychologically strong enough to turn intended negative comments into positives, the positive being a reminder that being fat, which I am, is not good for me.

If someone attempts to insult me because of my weight, and I'm not insulted at all, they, and not me, lose power.

As far as this relates to Trump and the opening post, he is a very vain person engaged in mockery. If it shows him up for his lack of psychological health, I have no problem with that.

A physical description of him, and a physical description of me would not be entirely different. But I'm not claiming to be some kind of paradigm of health and he is.

He's fragile and I'm not.

OK?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

41. I definitely hear where you're coming from.

He's fragile and I'm not.

The problem is, we have lots of fat friends and allies who are fragile, and anti-fat rhetoric hurts them. In addition, anti-fat rhetoric reinforces anti-fat biases in society, which hurt all fat people, fragile or no. It's similar to when Obama was president -- the right and its allies used racist rhetoric to hurt Obama. He is not a fragile person. But the increased rhetoric certainly hurt society as a whole, and made it harder for all BIPOC.

[donkeypoofed]

46. Me too ! I feel everything you said! please consider trying IF

I have lost 30 lbs (down to XL from 2XLL) since Jan. Dr Jason Fung had a ton of videos about Intermittent Fasting (IF) where it's not so much what you eat as WHEN you eat. You could try it and see. Its free. Most popular is 16:8 meaning you would eat between say 10am and 6pm, and nothing after that. If you look on reddit you will see the awe-inspiring Before & After pictures. I can't even tell you how much better I feel. Best of luck to you!

[NNadir]

51. There was a paper on this topic, I think either in JAMA or NEJM.

It seemed to indicate that this was an excellent idea.

I downloaded it a few months ago.

I had worked out a nice routine around it: I never ate lunch and instead went to the library each afternoon. I was losing weight, and I felt healthier.

Then I ended up working from home and blew my discipline.

Right now, I'm on Naproxen for pain, prescription strength, which requires to be taken with food, so I can't go there right now.

I actually did this sort of thing, unintentionally, in my first big weight loss when I was a kid; my poverty made it easier, one meal a day. I dropped about 30 pounds I'd gained during depression associated with my mother's death. I also bicycled about one or two hours a day, every day, and sometimes for eight hours on a weekend. I certainly miss the physical shape I was in. In those days I could bike from Hermosa Beach up to Santa Monica, fast, run an hour with some friends, bike home again and not even feel strained.

When I was first married, my wife and I did pretty much the same thing with respect to eating, one meal a day, calories counted, with an evening run on the beach in San Diego. Again we both controlled our weight very well.

Of course, now I'm an old man, in a lot of pain these last few weeks, but getting some PT.

Thanks for the reminder. I know that what you are doing works. I should definitely take your excellent advice.

I hate looking like that asshole Donald Trump.

Thanks again.

[LanternWaste]

50. Who specifically is arguing that?

I'm missing the posts that hypothesize a specific cause-and-effect argument to that effect...

[NNadir]

25. As an old fat bald white guy...

...I certainly applaud this line.

He lives by the cheap shot and should die by it as well.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

30. 329 is more likely

I weighed in at 238 this morning. Though I could stand to lose some weight I'm not as tall as Trump nor as portly.

[peggysue2]

31. Tubby Trump

I'm guessing, Donnie's pushing 300 pounds in his stocking feet. He's no more 239 pounds than he is 6'2''.

Liars got to lie, always.

Girther Movement/2020.

LOL.

[bluecollar2]

33. Show us the girth certificate...

Catchy!

[wishstar]

36. CNN pundits this am were actually parsing words to say he was only clinically obese not morbidly

and they listed his height at 6 ft 3 and wt at 243 with straight faces to nitpick Pelosi for calling him morbidly obese.

Couldn't believe no one on their panel cast doubt on those suspect numbers as there is no way he is 6 ft 3 and almost certainly over 250. I have close relatives who are 6 ft and at 230 look trim and healthy compared to him.

[Brainfodder]

43. I await him and his rigged scale claiming him fully clothed at 242.

[central scrutinizer]

45. BMI 45

[sarcasmo]

48. Over 325 look at Trump from a side view.