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MontanaMama

(23,242 posts)
Fri May 15, 2020, 06:10 PM May 2020

A hopeful sign of a few die hard republicans seeing MF45 for the fraud he is.

My husband is the president of a national non-profit trade organization. This group has a convention every summer that brings hundreds of people together. To date, this group has not canceled their convention scheduled for July in Sioux Falls, SD. The board is scheduled to make that decision between June 1st and June 15th. It dawned on me this week that this convention could go on as planned! It could because these folks are as red as they come with most of them still calling the virus a hoax, stupid, an overreaction etc...I have to hear it every damned day on the phone at work. I should get hazard pay but that's another story.

My husband isn't one of these RWNJ's and I figured that he would get this thing shut down but so far it hasn't happened. My husband is a thoughtful person but he doesn't make decisions quickly and he definitely has a wait and see type of demeanor. Two days ago I said to my husband, "You know...if you go to Sioux Falls, you'll have to come home and quarantine for two weeks. You'll have to live in the camper in the driveway and stay away from me, our kiddo and our shop for that entire time. We can't jeopardize the family or our employees" He looked at me in disbelief. I told him I wasn't kidding. He said "Really?" and I said "REALLY". I left work and told him I'd left the CDC guidelines bookmarked for him on my computer and he could read it for himself.

He immediately began calling his board members to see where they stood on the convention. These people are from all over the country - most are from deep red areas and the business they're all in is chock full of the reddest repubs you can imagine. ALL of them are in favor of shutting the convention down ASAP. The reddest repukes on that board were all quite vocal about the virus, how frightened they are to get it, that the pResident is lying to them about testing and how tRump's got to go or we will lose countless more Americans.

We found out that one of these board members just got out of the hospital with Covid-19. He said it is the sickest he has ever been. He went on an anti-tRump rampage with my husband saying he almost died because he kept hearing that this was like the flu or a cold and he should just keep working, so he did. Another board member from GA has a wife who works in an assisted living facility where Covid-19 has killed half the residents - he is terrified she will get it and then he will too. He pointedly blamed MF45 for the mess we're in. He said he's never voted for a Democrat but he would vote for Biden because he, at least, would know what to do.

I thought this was all good news. Our camper is actually very nice but I guess my husband really didn't want to quarantine there for 2 weeks.


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A hopeful sign of a few die hard republicans seeing MF45 for the fraud he is. (Original Post) MontanaMama May 2020 OP
Good job! Nevilledog May 2020 #1
All he needed was a little nudge and the handbook! 😊. Well done. MLAA May 2020 #2
That's indeed encouraging. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #3
Good for you. Actual science and data wins the day. A lot of us are frightened by this virus, SWBTATTReg May 2020 #4
The poll numbers show a vast majority of people are supportive of the lockdown gratuitous May 2020 #5
They are until it hits them directly...typical. BigmanPigman May 2020 #7
You're probably right, but I hope you're wrong gratuitous May 2020 #9
I call them Covidiots ... aggiesal May 2020 #16
Also, don't forget many of them are astroturfed dmr May 2020 #44
As far as Shitler's concerned, it's only about him and only about the economy. Texin May 2020 #47
It's all the hard core DT supporters! They're responding to HIS wishes, same as always! n/t napi21 May 2020 #54
Encouraging, but I still wonder what they'll actually Golden Raisin May 2020 #6
Yeah. I worry about that too. MontanaMama May 2020 #17
I think anybody who actually gets the virus will NEVER vote fore DT again! Fear of death is very napi21 May 2020 #55
Screw with his head and lock him up in there anyway CatWoman May 2020 #8
What, punish him for listening to his intelligent wife? I don't think so. nt Hekate May 2020 #12
I was kidding, Hekate CatWoman May 2020 #14
Good to know! Hekate May 2020 #15
A much appreciated hopeful sign Kitchari May 2020 #10
Talk about one person speaking up making a huge difference! That would be you, MontanaMama! Hekate May 2020 #11
Like it when good news is shared here. tiredtoo May 2020 #13
I was supposed to be going to a huge choral festival in Minneapolis the week of 4 July dsc May 2020 #18
I'm sorry. MontanaMama May 2020 #19
yep dsc May 2020 #22
I no longer sing soldierant May 2020 #32
A chorus in Washington State already had this happen dsc May 2020 #35
No offense, but... trof May 2020 #20
None taken. MontanaMama May 2020 #21
Ha! Made me pause... Grins May 2020 #56
Encouraging news CanonRay May 2020 #23
Agree 100%. MontanaMama May 2020 #27
WHEE, WHEE! Keep us informed of more positive developments...we need to hear good news!❤ Karadeniz May 2020 #24
Great post malaise May 2020 #25
Great post, and this is a great sentence. Please read this sentence from original post.. Stuart G May 2020 #52
Wow.. Look what you started, MontanaMama! Cha May 2020 #26
I'm with you Cha. MontanaMama May 2020 #28
This is very encouraging news. Thank you for sharing. Joinfortmill May 2020 #29
I believe these people are simply creating cover for themselves. When they go in the voting booth, BamaRefugee May 2020 #30
Nothing like the prospect of a painful death to focus the mind. TomSlick May 2020 #31
MontanaMama, you are a hero n/t soldierant May 2020 #33
Well thank you. MontanaMama May 2020 #34
Kudos, my friend! Rhiannon12866 May 2020 #36
Hugs to you, friend. MontanaMama May 2020 #37
Well, it snowed here only once this month - so far Rhiannon12866 May 2020 #38
Well played Mrs. nt Blue_true May 2020 #39
Good for you ! mgardener May 2020 #40
I don't think it will be safe to travel this summer. MontanaMama May 2020 #45
Thank you so much for this spot of good news! LiberalLoner May 2020 #41
All it took was all this! augyboston May 2020 #42
Yes. MontanaMama May 2020 #46
If nothing else genxlib May 2020 #43
Reality and experience can be excellent teachers dlk May 2020 #48
This is great news. WinstonSmith4740 May 2020 #49
I really think, as more people get sick and die mountain grammy May 2020 #50
Thank You for this wonderful post..Great News..!!! Stuart G May 2020 #51
A glimmer of hope was all I needed to get by today. NoRoadUntravelled May 2020 #53
They had better be flipping, or be known as CRAZY AF too? Brainfodder May 2020 #57

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,848 posts)
3. That's indeed encouraging.
Fri May 15, 2020, 06:25 PM
May 2020

Thank you for getting the ball rolling with your husband too.

The comments by the board member who was sick sounds right. It's often a very unpleasant and long-lasting illness compared to the flu, and that has been downplayed as well.

SWBTATTReg

(21,859 posts)
4. Good for you. Actual science and data wins the day. A lot of us are frightened by this virus,
Fri May 15, 2020, 06:25 PM
May 2020

and even more so, frightened by those who are so nonchalant about putting others in harms' way, if they chose to expose themselves (and in turn, others in their circle (family, friends, etc.)).

My SO works as an essential employee and thus has to go to work, possibly exposing themselves on a daily basis to the CV. I am nervous everyday. I pray everyday for us, and all others that this disease will pass all of us by, and just be a old nightmare.

Again, good for you for standing up, and protecting you and your husband. Your husband is a lucky man. I am glad that those you've heard about (caught the CV) are doing better.

Take care and be safe!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. The poll numbers show a vast majority of people are supportive of the lockdown
Fri May 15, 2020, 06:27 PM
May 2020

But for some reason, the decisions on relaxing the lockdown are being driven by small clots of the lowest information dunderheads walking around with suspiciously professional-looking signs. Even a lot of die hard Republicans aren't anxious to test their mettle against this virus.

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
7. They are until it hits them directly...typical.
Fri May 15, 2020, 06:46 PM
May 2020

The dude that was in the hospital had to share his personal story, but I am sure many will still say it is a hoax until they are in that hospital themselves.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. You're probably right, but I hope you're wrong
Fri May 15, 2020, 07:02 PM
May 2020

I really hope the idiots who get sick make lots and lots of videos about how wrong they've been, and that each one persuades just one of the knuckleheads to leave off their stupid crusade. But it probably won't.

dmr

(28,321 posts)
44. Also, don't forget many of them are astroturfed
Sat May 16, 2020, 10:10 AM
May 2020

I know that many in Michigan are paid by the rich and powerful.

Texin

(2,585 posts)
47. As far as Shitler's concerned, it's only about him and only about the economy.
Sat May 16, 2020, 10:52 AM
May 2020

He stupidly believes that the economic engine of this country is only fueled by the stock market. He's too ignorant that the true economic engine of this country is its people. He nor other rethugs haven't seemed to grasp the concept that if you kill the people, you will kill the economy because there will be no one at work to make the engine run.

Golden Raisin

(4,600 posts)
6. Encouraging, but I still wonder what they'll actually
Fri May 15, 2020, 06:42 PM
May 2020

do in the voting booth. They need to stop voting Trump and straight down-ticket Republicans. That is the true test.

MontanaMama

(23,242 posts)
17. Yeah. I worry about that too.
Fri May 15, 2020, 07:22 PM
May 2020

However...they’re thinking and talking about it. These guys have no clue what my husband’s political beliefs are and the fact that they were offering all that bodes well and means they’re probably talking to others about it too. Baby steps. The ones that don’t vote for Biden...eff them. They’ll get theirs.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
55. I think anybody who actually gets the virus will NEVER vote fore DT again! Fear of death is very
Sat May 16, 2020, 03:48 PM
May 2020

compelling & something you don't forget readily.

dsc

(52,130 posts)
18. I was supposed to be going to a huge choral festival in Minneapolis the week of 4 July
Fri May 15, 2020, 07:23 PM
May 2020

it is, of course, cancelled. But even after the board wanted to cancel it took weeks to negotiate the ability to cancel without being killed financially. This was all back in April. The official announcement of the postponement to next year was mid April. Honestly, I don't know that we will be able to have it even in July 2021 since choruses can't rehearse without at the very least a stringent testing regime and we aren't seeing any hope of that until at least 20 January 2021 at noon.

dsc

(52,130 posts)
22. yep
Fri May 15, 2020, 07:43 PM
May 2020

even the individual choruses who had to cancel seasons had a lot of work. I am on the board of mine and we are clearly not rehearsing now or for quite some time. On Sunday we have to start figuring out what going forward might look like. I am bordering on being despondent as to that.

soldierant

(6,648 posts)
32. I no longer sing
Fri May 15, 2020, 09:12 PM
May 2020

or play anything except the radio (and a lot of that) - but dear heaven, if a whole chorus - or even just a substantial percent - came down with COVID - what a catastrophe! That could lead to suicides - of audience members, let alone members - from the sense of loss.

dsc

(52,130 posts)
35. A chorus in Washington State already had this happen
Fri May 15, 2020, 09:24 PM
May 2020

as did one in the UK. An article commissioned by a national group of teachers of singing said that we won't be able to have rehearsals of choruses until a vaccine. I am thinking a really good testing regime could work. But that said, it will be a long time.

trof

(54,255 posts)
20. No offense, but...
Fri May 15, 2020, 07:35 PM
May 2020

Why would anybody want to have a convention in South Dakota?
Better than North Dakota, I guess.

MontanaMama

(23,242 posts)
21. None taken.
Fri May 15, 2020, 07:40 PM
May 2020

It was scheduled 2 years ago...and I agree! I wouldn’t want to go there. That said, in this particular trade, conventions seem to get held in the heartland of this country instead of fabulous destinations. It has been one of my pet peeves for years. When Sioux Falls ended up being a Covid hot spot, I thought that would be the end of it. It took a while and a threat of camper life for a certain someone but now it’s done.

WAY better than ND.

Grins

(7,134 posts)
56. Ha! Made me pause...
Sat May 16, 2020, 04:32 PM
May 2020

A convention in Sioux Falls. It took me a few seconds to get past that sentence.

MontanaMama

(23,242 posts)
27. Agree 100%.
Fri May 15, 2020, 07:52 PM
May 2020

The states of these board members are: Wisconsin, Kentucky, Georgia, Colorado, Utah, Pennsylvania, Alabama.

Stuart G

(38,365 posts)
52. Great post, and this is a great sentence. Please read this sentence from original post..
Sat May 16, 2020, 01:06 PM
May 2020

The reddest repukes on that board were all quite vocal about the virus, how frightened they are to get it, that the pResident is lying to them about testing and how tRump's got to go or we will lose countless more Americans."

Cha

(295,929 posts)
26. Wow.. Look what you started, MontanaMama!
Fri May 15, 2020, 07:51 PM
May 2020

This is really good to know.. so sorry about those who have already gotten it and those who didn't make it.

MontanaMama

(23,242 posts)
28. I'm with you Cha.
Fri May 15, 2020, 07:54 PM
May 2020

The man who had it and recovered lost his son to suicide last fall...I can’t imagine his family sustaining another loss so soon. If these folks will vote for Joe at best or at least stay the hell home if they can’t vote blue then we will be ahead.

BamaRefugee

(3,476 posts)
30. I believe these people are simply creating cover for themselves. When they go in the voting booth,
Fri May 15, 2020, 08:20 PM
May 2020

And are about to pull the levers, their brainwashing will kick in, visions of fetuses and confiscated guns will dance in their heads, and they’ll vote the same way they always have.
It’s going to be like Nixon. 2 years after he quit, you couldn’t find ANYONE who would admit that they voted for him. It was like he’d been elected twice by magic.

These people DO NOT CHANGE.

TomSlick

(11,035 posts)
31. Nothing like the prospect of a painful death to focus the mind.
Fri May 15, 2020, 08:37 PM
May 2020

I am hopeful that Trump's bungling the response to Covid-19 will focus many minds.

MontanaMama

(23,242 posts)
34. Well thank you.
Fri May 15, 2020, 09:23 PM
May 2020

Really all I did was promise a two week camper stay for my husband who has far more influence than I.

Rhiannon12866

(203,041 posts)
36. Kudos, my friend!
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:09 PM
May 2020

You likely saved many lives just by doing what you did! And it looks like the word is getting out - better late than never!

Hugs from New York!

Rhiannon12866

(203,041 posts)
38. Well, it snowed here only once this month - so far
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:19 PM
May 2020

But the leaves are coming out on the trees, so I think that makes it official. And the flowering trees are blooming too - the few times I've gotten out to see them. I'm guessing that tourism is a lost cause this year here in the North Country, too bad this nightmare couldn't have happened back when we were snowed in since everything (except groceries and gas stations) are closed anyway, but we're keeping safe and glad to hear that you are, too!

mgardener

(1,799 posts)
40. Good for you !
Sat May 16, 2020, 02:39 AM
May 2020

For being smart enough to take care of yourself and family.
And your husband WHEN he cancels !
Do people think that travel will be safe this summer?
We are such a jaded nation, we have no idea how diseases can spread anymore.
This is bad and will get worse.
Please everyone, stay safe!

MontanaMama

(23,242 posts)
45. I don't think it will be safe to travel this summer.
Sat May 16, 2020, 10:25 AM
May 2020

We’ve got less than 20 active cases in MT right now. I fear that will explode when our national parks open up and people see MT as a “safe” place to go.

augyboston

(193 posts)
42. All it took was all this!
Sat May 16, 2020, 06:13 AM
May 2020

Glad to hear even some die hard Repukes are coming to their senses.

Man these people are slow to grasp reality. All it took was all this!

MontanaMama

(23,242 posts)
46. Yes.
Sat May 16, 2020, 10:29 AM
May 2020

“All it took was all this” at least for the handful of MAGAts in this situation. There are more out there, unfortunately. As the virus spreads, each of them will either catch it or know someone who has it.

Welcome to DU!

genxlib

(5,508 posts)
43. If nothing else
Sat May 16, 2020, 08:38 AM
May 2020

The concept of air travel seems like a royal pan in the ass right now. Even if you don’t have the sense to be afraid

dlk

(11,438 posts)
48. Reality and experience can be excellent teachers
Sat May 16, 2020, 11:46 AM
May 2020

Sadly, some people have to learn things the hard way.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,048 posts)
49. This is great news.
Sat May 16, 2020, 12:03 PM
May 2020

Your associates are right out front with their feelings, but a lot of 45's supporters are with them, just not saying it out loud. I'll bet if we listen carefully, we'll hear similar things from his suppporters. Two in my life just showed signs that their brain cells still rub together, and called him out for the liar he is. The teflon is wearing thin. I think James Carville is right...people aren't going to vote for 4 more years of this.

mountain grammy

(26,571 posts)
50. I really think, as more people get sick and die
Sat May 16, 2020, 12:56 PM
May 2020

the tide will turn.. We'll see how the "canaries" do. Been watching cases rise in Douglas County since the restaurant opened in Castle Rock last Sunday..

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
57. They had better be flipping, or be known as CRAZY AF too?
Sat May 16, 2020, 04:50 PM
May 2020

I try to avoid CRAZY AF people.

Death Count Donnie, we need a time machine for!

He just mentions bleach and lysol and the stooges make phone calls in droves, and not a one of them was pleased?

I have this feeling if you went back in time and made Moscow Mitch die at spawn, we'd have peace on earth instead of this shit?


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