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The alleged sexual assault. All over ABC, NBC, CBS
Caliman73
(11,725 posts)Some flavored variation?
Or perhaps some context to the post?
JHB
(37,154 posts)So, no help there.
Caliman73
(11,725 posts)Humor is a delicate art.
Caliman73
(11,725 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)0rganism
(23,927 posts)wasn't it clear enough?
so far Biden's campaign appears to have taken the same approach regarding this allegation that Trump's administration took with coronavirus in February -- do nothing, ignore it, expect it to go away miraculously.
sorry, that is simply not going to work.
hedda_foil
(16,371 posts)0rganism
(23,927 posts)funny thing, both attacks are were pretty weak sauce in themselves, but they get a lot of amplification through mass media commentary
almost like they were originally intended simply to inoculate the GOP incumbent from certain flavors of attack, and the Democratic contender's strengths.
W was weak to charges regarding the quality of his military service, running against a genuine war hero, and turned it around with the swiftboating attack.
Trump is weak to charges of sexual predation, running against a human capable of genuine compassion and empathy. Biden could lose the election if female turnout depresses due to this allegation.
if this doesn't get addressed, by the time November rolls around, there could be 20 women making charges like this and Biden gets branded as a serial rapist.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)But I do thank you for taking the time to provide context.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Or simply rationalize the failure to do so.
Again.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)mercuryblues
(14,522 posts)Baclava
(12,047 posts)Freethinker65
(9,999 posts)Americans care about their health and health of their family, then their finances.
Stop hyping it.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)after a lot of years, the bullsh*t that is tossed around on the tv, has zero effect on me. It feels fan-fuc*ing-tastic.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)accuser which will prove that she has a history of falsifying events.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)credible for those who are open to the truth.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)What's the basis for claiming Biden has something on her that will disprove her statements?
I'm also not defending her accusations. I'm suggesting this story can't be ignored and it will only continue to fester until there's an adequate response.
Look, I think Reade has a credibility issue but it doesn't matter what I think. The Biden campaign has a choice to make.
1) They deny again, with Biden publicly saying it's not true (not just via a statement). Then move on and hope the media moves on as well. But that's not a guarantee. Hell, the campaign has basically ignored it beyond a statement and the issue has only grown with more information coming out that keeps it in the news (Larry King interview, the neighbor who said Tara told her in the mid-90s, etc).
2) Grant an interview where he can deny and answer any rebuttal questions from a specific reporter. This would allow for a vetting of the issue, give Biden an opportunity to explain why it's not true but also risks making it an even bigger story, especially if he can't provide any way to discount what she's said beyond just stating over and over again that he didn't do it. If what is suggested in the initial post is true, and they have something that could discredit her, that would be a perfect opportunity to do so (like releasing info on why she was let go - maybe corroborating stories that she left on her own accord, which would cast doubt on her story). Regardless, there might not be an explanation that placates those who doubt him. So, he could use this moment to speak about who he is and how personal this fight is and all he's done for women who are abused. If it's basically down to he said/she said and they lack any evidence that counters her claim (I wasn't in office with Tara in 1993 because she was in California or Delaware or whatever), the next option would be to sell it that Biden couldn't possibly do these things because it's out of character. Whether you and I believe that is irrelevant. It's the undecided voters who now need the convincing.
3) Say nothing. Refuse to comment. State you already denied it and now are focused on other things. This is risky because it also rests on whether the media largely moves on too. It's possible, after a week or two, they do just that. It's also possible other "evidence" continues to come forward and keeps it in the news.
Right now I don't know what the answer is but it's clear this story has traction. Whatever option Biden chooses is going to be vital as the election could be in the balance (tbh I doubt it will be a major issue but I also thought this was far smaller a month ago than I think it is now, so, without predicting the future, I can't say what this will look like in a month or two - or by November).
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)doesn't have to prove anything. She is not credible and thus is not to be believed. But this has gone too far and I expect we will see some really nasty stuff posted about her -truthful stuff unlike the shit she spews.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)That's not how campaigns work. He can take that approach but it doesn't guarantee the story goes away.
rockfordfile
(8,695 posts)The closer the election gets and the more Biden leads there will be more crazy crap. Trump and the far-left are desperate.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)This is the first real week it's gotten full traction. Prior to this week, it was hardly reported on the national level.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I get it though... doing so allows you the pretense of validity you may not otherwise have.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)You don't say you're pretty sure of something unless you have reason to believe it.
So, what is that reason to feel pretty sure Biden's people have info on the accuser? I asked the poster because I'd like to know. it'd make me feel better about these accusations to know Biden can move this beyond just a he said, she said ordeal.
JCMach1
(27,553 posts)Out there.
Do they ever report on those?
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)It was all over the press when a few came forward.
JCMach1
(27,553 posts)Not 2016
Yes, it's much more credible than Reade... And no, the MSM never/rarely says a peep
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-04/trump-rape-accuser-would-defer-dna-request-to-keep-case-going
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)ABC News
Business Insider
New York Times
The Bloomberg article you linked to.
All these stories from 2020.
Plus, the initial claims from 2016 absolutely were news. Hell, a lot of stations led with it.
JCMach1
(27,553 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Trump's allegations were significant news:
26 days before the election on Good Morning America:
From CBS News in October, 2016:
From CNN News:
It dominated the news - sorry, but we can't rewrite history.
The difference is that Trump came out right from the start and denied it, going on the attack - even attacking the accusers (calling one too ugly to rape).
Biden hasn't. Biden has let it fester. We'll see if his way works better than Trump's.
IcyPeas
(21,841 posts)have all been adjudicated.
case closed. because they say so.
LakeArenal
(28,802 posts)We know its out there. We rise above that stuff. Dont need to be reminded six threads a day.
GoCubsGo
(32,074 posts)As will this one in about 15 seconds...
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)is linked.
Hugin
(33,047 posts)They're going full on Al Franken.
Never mind the serial rapist in the WH.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Celerity
(43,102 posts)but he wants the peal-offs to not vote or vote 3rd party.
D_Master81
(1,822 posts)When they elected someone with 20 allegations against them.
onecaliberal
(32,777 posts)albacore
(2,398 posts)More information about the alleged Biden assault on Tara Reade...
"When women make allegations of sexual assault, my default response is to believe them. But as the news media have investigated Reades allegations, Ive become increasingly skeptical. Here are some of the reasons why:..."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/04/29/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation-tara-reade-column/3046962001/
pwb
(11,246 posts)Good Putty.
marlakay
(11,425 posts)Was asked what about Trumps accusers, oh yes there are 17 some for assaults and even rape, says it like it was nothing and back to story. My mouth was open.
Why does that mf get a pass on absolutely everything? 😡🤬
onecaliberal
(32,777 posts)Makes my head explode.