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NEWS: Sanders Campaign Statement on New York Primary (Original Post) Donkees Apr 2020 OP
So Bernie is still a candidate? But he isn't running? comradebillyboy Apr 2020 #1
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I share your assessment of Sanders... comradebillyboy Apr 2020 #12
This only helps Donald Trump. Doodley Apr 2020 #2
ffs, it's not a "blow to American democracy" when you get your R B Garr Apr 2020 #3
+1000. This is the same accusation the RW lockdown protestors are making against Governors ehrnst Apr 2020 #43
How many people need to die for Bernie's ego? Renew Deal Apr 2020 #4
Why are the Bernie Bros such bad losers? calguy Apr 2020 #5
Yes! Absolutely! Thank you!! NurseJackie Apr 2020 #6
WTF Sanders? People are supposed to vote even if you're not running?! WTF man ?! uponit7771 Apr 2020 #8
Are we supposed to care? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #9
Last count 40 cases of vivid 19 tied to voting that day. Do not need more. Tech Apr 2020 #11
If This Is An Official Campaign Statement, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #10
That's not news. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #13
Did Sanders stop his campaign and endorse Biden or NOT? Jeff Weaver, you are you are pulling still_one Apr 2020 #14
Weaver Is Sanders' Creature, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #15
I agree still_one Apr 2020 #17
correct me if I'm wrong...a distinct possibility... dhill926 Apr 2020 #16
NEWS: nydems chair @JayJacobs28 ... wants a fair way to allocate NY delegates to @BernieSanders Donkees Apr 2020 #18
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Bernie Sanders just endorsed Biden Cha Apr 2020 #30
Rep. AOC: 'cancelling of NY's Democratic presidential primary is an act that disenfranchises voters' Donkees Apr 2020 #19
How is it disenfranchising voters? Biden's the only candidate Budi Apr 2020 #24
That Is A Mistake, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #26
Bernie Sanders endorses Joe Biden for president Cha Apr 2020 #29
That's what a reasonable person & supporter would do. Budi Apr 2020 #32
Totally agree and I'm beyond Cha Apr 2020 #33
Does she realize that the only remaining candidate is the one HER candidate endorsed? George II Apr 2020 #37
Is BS speaking up for the dozen candidates who suspended & endorsed Biden? Or is this strictly... Hekate Apr 2020 #20
Oh Yeah! If there is anyway to show the world how a true democracy works.... rgbecker Apr 2020 #21
There Is Still A Primary In New York, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #28
Well Sarge, if that's what you call an election where you are from fine.... rgbecker Apr 2020 #34
This is bullshit on top of bullshit yet on top of another mound of bullshit. William769 Apr 2020 #22
"Lose with a little self-respect" Budi Apr 2020 #23
Thanks, Typhoid Bernie! Generic Brad Apr 2020 #27
+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #35
Sometimes comedy writes itself GeorgiaPeanut Apr 2020 #31
One of the unfortunate legacies of the 2008 primaries is this absurd belief that the DNC tells StevieM Apr 2020 #36
Sanders is done and he's not a Democrat. He should have zero input into our platform. octoberlib Apr 2020 #38
Fuck the divisive bullshit. I am just so over "Him, not Us". MrsCoffee Apr 2020 #39
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And that is the biggest bunch of bullshit in this whole thread. MrsCoffee Apr 2020 #41
First: Bernie still has Jeff Weaver on the payroll? Second: ehrnst Apr 2020 #42

Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #1)

R B Garr

(16,920 posts)
3. ffs, it's not a "blow to American democracy" when you get your
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 05:50 PM
Apr 2020

ass handed to you by voters. What is a blow to democracy is to keep twisting the two losses now to make yourself a victim. Honesty is important.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
43. +1000. This is the same accusation the RW lockdown protestors are making against Governors
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 01:27 PM
Apr 2020

who are following the guidelines of public health scientists....

calguy

(5,223 posts)
5. Why are the Bernie Bros such bad losers?
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 05:51 PM
Apr 2020

Despite spamming the boards almost 24/7 in the first few months of primary season, and proclaiming Bernie the clear winner after a couple small state wins, your candidate did not win. Your candidate ended his campaign. Joe Biden our preferred candidate. The national health crisis mandates not risking the public health by holding a primary where only one candidate in the race.
Why are you guys always such sour grapes? I thought you supported party unity? Did you mean you only support party unity if Bernie was the winner? It sure seems like it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,280 posts)
9. Are we supposed to care?
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 06:04 PM
Apr 2020

More importantly, are people supposed to do like they did in WI and risk infection (which some people actually got) just to stand in line to vote for someone who has already conceded?

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
10. If This Is An Official Campaign Statement, Sir
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 06:05 PM
Apr 2020

Then not just Weaver but Sanders needs to sit down and shut up, not to rise again until they smell the coffee.

The inflammatory nonesense in this puling screed points to why so many have no trust at all for Sanders, and continue in the conviction he means to make trouble when the convention commences. If Weaver continues in Sanders' employ after this, and Sanders does not repudiate his statements, and declare his satisfaction with the reasonable action of the New York board, he will have given solid evidence of bad faith, and made it hard to argue against the proposition he intends to make trouble down the line.


"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."

still_one

(91,965 posts)
14. Did Sanders stop his campaign and endorse Biden or NOT? Jeff Weaver, you are you are pulling
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 06:48 PM
Apr 2020

the same anti-Democratic party, divisionary bullshit that you are so well known for

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
15. Weaver Is Sanders' Creature, Sir
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:00 PM
Apr 2020

His mouth speaks with Sanders' tongue.

Blame rests with the principal, not the mere agent, unless the principal takes steps to discipline the agent and correct the agent's behavior. Till he does, these words are Sanders' words, in Weaver's mouth.


"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."

dhill926

(16,234 posts)
16. correct me if I'm wrong...a distinct possibility...
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:29 PM
Apr 2020

but didn't the Sanders people attack Biden for NOT coming out against the Wisconsin primary?

Donkees

(31,086 posts)
18. NEWS: nydems chair @JayJacobs28 ... wants a fair way to allocate NY delegates to @BernieSanders
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:45 PM
Apr 2020

NEWS: @nydems chair @JayJacobs28 tells @NY1 he wants to talk to campaigns and find a fair way to allocate New York delegates to @BernieSanders, as if primary had happened

Response to Donkees (Reply #18)

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
24. How is it disenfranchising voters? Biden's the only candidate
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:34 PM
Apr 2020

Bernie suspended his campaign & the other candidates in the race ended their campaign.
Every candidate who presented a clear challenge has since endorsed VP Biden.

This is the Primary.
Support the strongest candidate the Democratic Party has, for November against Trump and his total collapse of American Democracy.
Its pretty simple.

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
26. That Is A Mistake, Sir
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:40 PM
Apr 2020

She makes them occasionally, but she will learn as she progresses. She has the 'X-factor' in spades, and is a valuable asset to the Democratic Party.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
32. That's what a reasonable person & supporter would do.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 09:48 PM
Apr 2020

However, what she's doing is more like playing the game of both sideism
As well as playing the 'outrage factor' to keep one's name in the headlines.

We see that gameplay from every social media influencer on a weekly basis.
This outrage will be replaced with another in a couple weeks.

meh...



Hekate

(90,202 posts)
20. Is BS speaking up for the dozen candidates who suspended & endorsed Biden? Or is this strictly...
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:55 PM
Apr 2020

...a Sanders Perpetual Grudge Motion Machine thing?

Bernie: you lost. Again. So did a whole lot of other people. It's not about you. A lot of people liked Joe better. We voted. That's how the game is played. There can be only one, and it wasn't you.

rgbecker

(4,806 posts)
21. Oh Yeah! If there is anyway to show the world how a true democracy works....
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:59 PM
Apr 2020

Just cancel all the elections, or if you bother to have them, run only one candidate. We'll learn from this in 2024 and just name 5 or 6 states as sort of a show. Save millions by not having elections for the other states and just go with maybe 35 or 40 % of the nation's democrats bothering to vote. We could choose a couple of states that never vote Democratic and add some from the north and west willy-nilly and just go with what they decide. What could go wrong with that?

New York could have been the state that shows how quickly a mail in only election could be established. They could have eliminated all the talk against the only sane way to have an election during a pandemic. I agree with the idea that this will be used by the GOP to argue, maybe successfully that we really don't need an election in Nov. 2020.

Yikes!

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
28. There Is Still A Primary In New York, Sir
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:44 PM
Apr 2020

Twenty counties which had no local offices on the ballot will do nothing, but odds are these are small and comprise but a small proportion of the primary electorate. All the rest have local offices, and measures, even a special election of two on their ballots.

All that has happened is that no one who is not actively campaigning for the Democratic party's nomination for President appears on any ballot. That hardly strikes me as some calamitous infringement on the right of the people to vote, let alone some vest-pocket exercise in fascism.


"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."

rgbecker

(4,806 posts)
34. Well Sarge, if that's what you call an election where you are from fine....
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 09:55 PM
Apr 2020

but no one on the ballot in 20 counties and no presidential candidates on any ballot in a presidential election year is something I don't remember fighting for in the sixties.

William769

(55,124 posts)
22. This is bullshit on top of bullshit yet on top of another mound of bullshit.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:02 PM
Apr 2020

Yes, I am not running but I want delegates! When will this fucking madness end?

Biden will be in his second term and Bernie and his crew are still going to still be complaining about delegates! Lose with a little self-respect. Right now, the way you will be remembered is not pretty.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
23. "Lose with a little self-respect"
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:21 PM
Apr 2020

This shit's been going on since pre- 2015. Brunch with Bernie on RT's debut into American cable news.

There's no self respect required, with a mission like that.

Been there, done that & heard it all before.
And we all know why, too.
😐

Props to your post 👍






StevieM

(10,499 posts)
36. One of the unfortunate legacies of the 2008 primaries is this absurd belief that the DNC tells
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 10:53 PM
Apr 2020

the states what to do and they have to comply. This is, of course, utter nonsense.

The states don't "break rules," they set election dates. Admittedly it can get complicated in terms of how the DNC and RNC deal with, especially, as in the case of Florida, when it was done entirely by the other political party.

What exactly does Bernie think the DNC can do? Does he want them stripped of their delegates to the convention? Could that even be realistically expected to get the Board of Elections to change their minds?

I do wish they would just do a mail-in primary. That would make more sense IMO.

Of course, I am not certain how much of an in person convention we are going to wind up having.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
38. Sanders is done and he's not a Democrat. He should have zero input into our platform.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:32 AM
Apr 2020

I think all the rest of the primaries should be called off.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
39. Fuck the divisive bullshit. I am just so over "Him, not Us".
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:51 AM
Apr 2020

I am sickened every time Sanders campaign goes out of their way to prove it’s always been about Bernie and his hand picked disciples not the people.

If he isn’t careful, he is gonna get some of his own people primaried.

Response to Donkees (Original post)

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
41. And that is the biggest bunch of bullshit in this whole thread.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 01:16 PM
Apr 2020

Hell, perhaps on the whole site today.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
42. First: Bernie still has Jeff Weaver on the payroll? Second:
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 01:20 PM
Apr 2020

Not a good look to be equating a public health precaution during a pandemic with a "blow to American democracy," because that's the same thing the lockdown protesters are saying about stay at home orders, and it's just as wrong.

We do not need a repeat of the Wisconsin primary, which shows what happens when a state tries to change over the system to mail-in ballots with too little time.

I also have to wonder what Bernie's campaign and supporters would be saying if the shoe was on the other foot, and Biden was trying to reverse a a public health decision after suspending his campaign, in order to "get more influence" in writing the party platform.

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