I will consider the position of those who say don't vote Biden. But I require a few things
1. You have to prove that AJ RBG will not have to leave the bench (either as the result of death or some illness)
2. You have to prove that AJ Thomas will not resign or die
3. You have to be able to prove that il douce will not continue to place wholly unqualified hacks onto the bench
4. You have to prove that he won't continue damaging the environment
5. You have to prove that he won't keep marginalizing the LGBT community
6. You have to prove that he will get rid of the worst Attorney General in U.S. history
7. You have to prove that il douche-bag will act presidential
8. You have to prove the he'll stop spending huge amounts of tax dollars enriching himself, his family and his friends
9. You have to prove that he'll stop undermining the medical community
10. You have to prove that he'll listen to the advice of people who actually know what they're talking about
11. You have to prove he will stop acting like an insane, narcissistic, petulant, obnoxious, psychotic three year old.
12. You have to prove he'll stop eroding women's rights
13. You'll have to prove he will stop making excuses for racists and other bigots
14. You have to prove he'll stop listening to people like Falwell, Jeffries and Graham
15. You have to prove he'll stop watching TV and actually work
16. You have to prove he'll read the daily briefings, instead of winging it
17. You have to prove he'll stop picking fights with our allies/strategic partners
18. You have to prove he'll actually take responsibility for his mistakes
19. You have to prove he'll stop lying
20. You have to prove he'll stop taking advice from Hannity, Dobbs and the couch sitters.
If you can prove to me that these few things will happen (all of them, not some), then we can talk
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And why they're so sure of the both-sides thing and what Biden would do as president, just like they were so sure of all the terrible things the Democratic nominee was going to do last time. Because a Democratic president won't transform the U.S. into a different country by some miraculous means, I guess is the problem. Anyone working in government wants to fix problems to improve it (unless they're Republicans). Activists work outside the system, that's different. American culture isn't going to fundamentally change right now and is complicated. Know your own country.
Was just skimming Naomi Klein's 2017 book and sometimes she's fine, but then starts in on both-sides and how Democrats are neoliberal-status quo and totalitarian-fascist-oligarchs this and that. How ironic for someone who wrote the book "No Logo" about brands sticks these mindless brand labels onto Democrats.
Also read some of Chris Hedges' 2009 "Empire of Illusion" and sometimes he's fine, then the both-sides-elitist-privilege-entitlement-wealth blah blah blah happens. He thinks the idiot children of families like the Bush's and Trump's are the same as the Clintons and Obamas because they all went to Ivy League schools. Oh, come on. Can't tell the difference?
don't cha' know?
(and really .. there isn't that much difference between the two establishment parties, right?)
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A post containing the word "corporate" that I did NOT ignore. Congratulations! 
