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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAOC Endorses Joe Biden: 'Absolutely' Must 'Rally Behind Our Democratic Nominee'
By Tommy Christopher
Progressive New York Democratic Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez delivered an unequivocal endorsement of former Vice President Joe Bidens candidacy, saying that voters absolutely should rally behind our Democratic nominee in November.
On Wednesdays edition of ABCs The View, host Whoopi Goldberg asked AOC if shed be able to do the same thing as Bernie Sanders and endorse Biden, and whether its time to have a conversation with Joe?
Absolutely, she replied, adding that the stakes are too high when it comes to another four years of Trump.
Her remarks went beyond having a conversation about endorsing Biden, though, as AOC went on to say I think its really important that we rally behind our Democratic nominee in November, and argued explicitly against voting third party.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-endorses-joe-biden-absolutely-must-rally-behind-our-democratic-nominee/
klook
(12,154 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Cuz that was quick.
agingdem
(7,849 posts)sit down, shut up and listen to the voices of experience...
Butterflylady
(3,543 posts)She's finally learning!
Got learn to walk before you run.
Magoo48
(4,709 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)full of insinuation about Biden/Democratic dishonesty about intentions. She chose a really bad time to try to distract attention to her demoralizing attacks on us -- from Senator Sanders' and President Obama's endorsements and the major shift in alignment to unity.
She was clearly trying to draw some of Sanders' to hostiles and to insert herself on the national scene among the big players, and this retrench to safety suggests to me that the responses weren't exactly what she hoped for.
Nancy of course has her number and, as she's said, she's almost never surprised. She would have anticipated something of this sort from Ocasio, who has to worry about losing a lot of dissident steam, but I'm not as sure as others that Nancy felt a need to do anything, rather than just let them fail.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)unlike some others, correctly focused on the bottom line. AOC has endorsed Biden.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)statements acceptable to Democrats as delivery systems for subversive themes.
Remember, she belonged to and was assisted by a subversive anti-Democratic group when she almost accidentally got elected by 5% who voted in a majority Democratic (not dissident!) district. And then in a sign of our weird times, her dissident creds caught fire with a lot of young people who've spent their entire lives marinating in anti-Democratic propaganda and she suddenly became a national figure.
And liked it. Of course.
Of course she wanted to keep both her rather spectacular leap in socioeconomic status as a congressman AND the national political following her dissidence drew.
The major realignment of Sanders with Biden to defeat Trump and rescue our nation didn't include her, though it could have.
But INSTEAD she chose to try to draw Sanders' angry, left-behind dissident followers by feeding their antagonism to Democrats AND officially endorse Biden in order to stay acceptable enough to get reelected back home.
Get it? Talking out both sides of her mouth, and both sides untrustworthy. It may be understandable, but it's far from admirable. She needs to choose a side or get a lot better at deceiving her DEMOCRATIC constituents. They're not kids.
brush
(53,776 posts)after giving credibility to tara reid's rape insinuations, AOC came out with a full-throated endorsement of Biden. Something sure influenced that abrupt turn around.
It's tiring watching a neophyte with little know-how continually trying to play with the big girls and boys.
She actually thought she was on such a level that she could bargain with the Democratic Party's presidential nominee for her endorsementa one-term rep.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)she might have learned that some group she counted on the support of disapproved. Biden's campaign may have sent her a message. Or maybe one of the subversive groups she dances with is looking for some new male leader to support, not her. Who knows. She's out of her league and bad news could have come from almost any direction.
After all, she's a freshman Democrat, not exactly Ms. Slick at manipulating opposing groups or Ms. Master at playing with the big guys, which is what she's trying to do. The big realignment of power occurred without her, and with Sanders' coattail twitched out from under her she's suddenly very weak and in real danger of fading almost as fast as she came.
She has to decide what she wants, and for her sake that had better be what's possible.
brush
(53,776 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)among the rest. Now I'm thinking it's more likely than otherwise that house leaders, and perhaps others, did feel a need to send her a message. It's way, way, way over the line, and no one's got her back.
Cha
(297,196 posts)Mike Niendorff
(3,461 posts)If that's what you came to post to this thread, you're in the wrong place. Start your fights somewhere else.
MDN
Demsrule86
(68,563 posts)she brought it on herself...she should ask for Biden's endorsement...in her district the well funded candidate who is too righty for me is a real threat. This is a working class district and hubs grew up there and folks he knows don't care for AOC; she has two primary opponents so that may save her, but if one drops out ...look out. She has a battle on her hands
Squinch
(50,949 posts)People who don't want to be condescended to should not act like dopes.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)While she has some policy differences, she clearly endorsed Biden in that interview. There weren't multiple interviews -- there were multiple headline writers.
Magoo48
(4,709 posts)agingdem
(7,849 posts)my 22 year old granddaughter was for Bernie until she wasn't...she cheered when AOC was elected but stopped cheering a long time ago...she learned to separate what's doable and what's wish upon a star...crawl before you can walk...listen before you can speak...I was young and full of myself and I knew everything... and then came Nixon and Reagan and Bush 1 and Bush 2 and Trump..
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,748 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,190 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... including this.
Nacht Owl
(66 posts)She'd be Lyndon Baines Johnson: The Sequel, kicking ass, bending arms, or BREAKING them if necessary!
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)DFW
(54,372 posts)I'll bet it was more than a minor slap, too. Good thing that AOC is wise enough to have gotten the message! It's not enough to be a good politician. You have to be a politician AND good.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)support the nominee.
of course that true narrative does not fire up the ex post facto outrage Wurlitzers bound and determined to get a parting bovver boot in on a bogeyman of choice
brush
(53,776 posts)her mind. My guess it was Madame Speaker.
Aristus
(66,330 posts)She is everything AO-C aspires to be, so I think that was a job well-done.
womanofthehills
(8,703 posts)AOC had greater name recognition than Nancy Pelosi.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Caliman73
(11,736 posts)While I think that AOC respects and would listen to Nancy Pelosi, one I doubt Pelosi would "spank" AOC, two Bernie Sanders is most likely the person who reached out to AOC and advised her to endorse Biden for the sake of victory in November.
I am not sure why "spanking" would need to be involved.
Magoo48
(4,709 posts)relayerbob
(6,544 posts)Whether you like her style or not, she is one VERY intelligent person, and she is likely going to be on the scene for a very long time to come. It will not be because she makes mistakes like backing the obviously wrong horse, and she'll accomplish far more because she seems to know when to push and when to back off - and yes, she's done both, and is learning fast.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)know when to fold em; know when to walk away, know when to 🏃
Fiendish Thingy
(15,606 posts)Why deny her agency and independence, assuming the only reason she endorsed Biden was because Nancy spanked her hard, when there is no evidence of this?
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Common sense after AOC reportedly yhrew Joe under the bus as reported earlier today on DU. I don't hsve link, but I'm sure you can find it you care to look.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,606 posts)Her comments were completely consistent with her position that women should be heard. She did not accept the accusation as fact, and said nothing about Biden (the reporter is the one who made the disparaging remarks about Joe in the phrasing of the questions).
Mariana
(14,856 posts)of making their own decisions, without some older white person giving them orders.
Needless to say,
brush
(53,776 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)Sorry, but AOC is green as hell. Im sure Nancy has taught her a lot. She runs a very tight ship.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)For some reason I don't recall that here or elsewhere.
brush
(53,776 posts)Kaleva
(36,298 posts)pnwmom
(108,977 posts)pnwmom
(108,977 posts)as a non-endorsement.
theaocp
(4,237 posts)Oh, the GNASHING OF TEETH I read not two hours ago!! Quick! Send FUCKING MONEY to her CONSERVATIVE CHALLENGER ARGLBLARGH!!!1! Unfuckingreal.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! back to you.
theaocp
(4,237 posts)Quick! Send some money to her! Operators are standing by! LMAO
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)theaocp
(4,237 posts)Go find your own corner.
agingdem
(7,849 posts)my 22 year old granddaughter asked me if Biden is the best we've got...I said he's the best for this time...this election is getting Trump and his malignancy out of the White House and out of Washington...and AOC can't afford to stand firm on principle...not now
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)Once we gain back the WH and perhaps the Senate, then we can start making strides for more progressive agendas.
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:34 PM - Edit history (1)
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Not someone any real Dem should want in a solidly Democratic seat.
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)tonedevil
(3,022 posts)womanofthehills
(8,703 posts)MCC wants health savings accounts. She has a lot in common with Trump - in her book she wrote about getting rid of many departments like education and labor. Her favorite president is - get this - Reagan.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts).. be sending mine to AOC
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)I trashed that idiotic thread. Why do people make such irrational/snap judgement comments about one statement an otherwise shrewd politician makes?
George II
(67,782 posts)...in her own community in which she's lived most of her life. Another has lived in the district his entire life, too.
I don't think Cabrera stands much chance.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)"Twenty-four hours is an eternity in politics."
Good that the young lady came to her senses....
"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."
riversedge
(70,213 posts)fishwax
(29,149 posts)she said that she had always said all along that she would support the nominee, and once it was clear that Biden was the nominee she reiterated that. In the New York Times article that had everyone all outraged (mostly because of the way it was distorted by other venues like the NY Post, presumably with the intent to undermine democratic unity) she said quite clearly that she "will be supporting the democratic nominee in November" and that "Beating Donald Trump is a matter of life or death for our communities."
questionseverything
(9,654 posts)not just when we hate the accused
I think that is the correct thinking
does it mean every woman is credible? no but to listen and access is the correct thing to do
I do not find Biden's accuser credible but that is after I listened and examined the available evidence for myself
biden has apologized for old behavior that made some woman uncomfortable, that aoc mentioned that is nothing to lose du's collective mind over
sometimes some of the peops on this board scare me with their good guy/bad guy thinking
brush
(53,776 posts)The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."
Voltaire2
(13,027 posts)Just an observation.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)No one ever questioned whether or not Sen. Warren's supporters would be behind Mr. Biden, or imagined that she would attempt disruption or urge her followers not to support the Party's nominee. For the record, Sen. Warren was my preferred candidate, and you may have observed my solid support for Mr. Biden.
Rep. Ocasio-Cortez has postured as a leader of a faction which loudly proclaims it may not support Mr. Biden to this day, and recently went so far as to speak in a manner that could be taken as lending credence to scurrilous charges against Mr. Biden. So this is a significant change of front on her part, and in my view a welcome one. I think she is a person of great potential, who I am happy to see in our Party.
"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."
fishwax
(29,149 posts)before today. This isn't really a change in her position at all. It's just a change in a specific manner of reporting on her position.
Here's the thing: there are certain people who want to sow disunity among democrats.
One tactic they use is to target people on the left with the idea (and they aren't wrong about this) that there is a non-negligible number of misguided (feel free to substitute stronger adjectives if you wish) voters who can be dissuaded from voting for the democratic nominee.
Another tactic that they use is to attack various politicians who are generally seen as leaders of the left (people like Sanders, AOC, Omar, etc.). The goal with this form of attack is not to actually discredit those leaders among the left, but rather to invite/encourage people closer to the center to attack those leaders. Why would someone who wants to spread disunity among democrats do that? Well, because they know full well that when people in the mainstream attack people like AOC, it increases the chances that a few more of that non-negligible number of misguided voters that they're hoping will stay home will actually stay home.
So how does this work in action? Well, yesterday an interview comes out with AOC in the New York Times. The interviewer starts out by asking if she and Biden have spoken, and AOC says no. Other press reports this as a "demand" that Biden reach out to her specifically or as a "complaint" that Biden hasn't called her. Even though it isn't any such thing. But since most people these days don't actually get their news about interviews from the original interview, the distorted perception finds its way to places like DU and has exactly the desired effect: well-meaning and deeply-caring committed democrats outraged at AOC and lobbing accusations and recriminations and what have you. In the same interview, she says unequivocally that she will support the nominee in November and that victory over Trump is a matter of life or death for minority and underprivileged communities. All the same as this interview. But it's framed differently, and the frame matters a great deal.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)Political language is often a form of waffle-speak, and it was within Rep. Ocasio-Cortez' power to make clear her views so unequivocally that coverage could not distort them. That she has not done until today.
Bear in mind, I have frequently expressed support for her, and am glad to be able to continue to do so.
Best not to find a fight just for the hell of it....
"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."
fishwax
(29,149 posts)On edit: also, I don't really agree that it is within her power to not be distorted. The things that she said in the view interview quoted in this OP are pretty much identical to the things she said in the interview that had everyone outraged.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)But as I suspect we are both pretty much on the same side, I see no point to pressing what disagreements we may have. I do at times get a bit more waspish than is necessary. I seldom really regret it of course, because I enjoy it, but still....
Be well, and stay safe!
"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."
fishwax
(29,149 posts)not to press disagreements, but rather because the situation itself is dangerous. There are, I have no doubt, outside agents seeking to mess with our elections again, and I don't want them to be successful.
So when I see people making baseless attacks at the nominee or the party, I think it's a good idea to resist that, because I know that there are some misguided (etc.) voters out there who could be dissuaded from voting for him. And, similarly, when I see the second tactic (attacking leaders of the left) I think that's worth pointing out as well.
Not because I think anybody is doing it out of malice or even ignorance. I think people just get swept up in the fight and in certain anxieties, and that it winds up being detrimental to the process and to our chances in that process, as it was in 2016.
I don't doubt at all that we're on the same side--in fact, if I'm not mistaken you go back (as do I) to the very beginning of DU--or at least pretty close
so we've been on the same side for a long time.
You stay safe, too, Magistrate! We're all in this together and I'm confident we'll all sweep Joe to victory with plenty of down ballot support to boot!
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Hope it has a longer shelf life than the milk I just bought.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)The young woman is not a fool. She could not have to where she is, from where she started, if she were. It is good to have some young firebrands in the Congressional ranks, and some mature into stalwart warriors.
"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."
comradebillyboy
(10,147 posts)Good news though.
comradebillyboy
(10,147 posts)It smells like victory.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)honest.abe
(8,678 posts)honest.abe
(8,678 posts)I suspect someone had a "come to jesus" conversation with her.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)mvd
(65,173 posts)I thought she would do the right thing.
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)she would do the right thing. And you are correct - that is good to hear.
I believe she has tremendous potential in the party - after all, if THAT many RepubliCons go after her so hard and fast, she MUST be doing something right!
Hopefully, experience, maturity, and mentoring/guidance will help mold her into an outstanding Democratic leader.
brush
(53,776 posts)and previously debunked allegation by Tara Reid that Biden raped her.
Isn't that what you just did?
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Where is that in the article?
brush
(53,776 posts)Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)brush
(53,776 posts)Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)I posted. So please dont falsely accuse me of trying to cover something up.
demmiblue
(36,846 posts)brush
(53,776 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:22 PM - Edit history (1)
Madame Speaker must have gotten across to her the right messagingendorse our nominee immediately and stop giving credibility to repug talking points.
rgbecker
(4,831 posts)Have you got a link to a report that that occurred?
Here's what I get. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Did+polosi+talk+with+AOC+about+supporting+Biden%3F
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)That rates to some as covering up, if not endorsing her comments....
Some folks get a bit carried away in prolonged disputation.
Her unfortunate remarks are best forgotten and forgiven, in my view. Calling further attention to them even by condemnation, is hardly helpful.
"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)and that wasnt mentioned. Youre the one bringing it up.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)You may note I am defending you....
"Can't nobody here play this game?"
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Since the only honest defense is that it was never mentioned in the article that I posted.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)I will lay it out just this once.
You were attacked after posting something favorable to Rep. Ocasio-Cortez. You expressed some puzzlement as to why this happened.
I took the trouble to explain the likely view and intent of the person attacking you, and suggested he was being, shall we say, a little over-enthusiastic in pressing something there is no need to press. I even chided him a little for doing so, by expressing my own view that he was taking a course that was not helpful to union of all factions of our Democratic Party.
If this does not get through to you, I am at a loss, and must try and remember to pause before acting on any stray impulse to be helpful which might cross my mind in future, there seeming to be on occasion no percentage in it....
Be well, and stay safe!
"I'm going home now. Someone get me some frogs and some bourbon."
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)I posted an article and was unfairly attacking for covering up something that wasnt mentioned in the article and instead of defending me to the person who attacked me you decided to join in. Now youre trying to backtrack.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)Should I ever attack you, no one will be in any doubt I have done so, and it will look quite different from any of my comments above....
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)DFW
(54,372 posts)We have a word here: "streitsüchtig." I'm sure it will have a few approximate definitions somewhere.
There is no exact equivalent in English, but I think you will find more than one case of "the shoe fitting."
There is no known cure, as far as I know.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)Is 'Ich deurchfallen zwei jahr Gymnasium", and don't even know that's right for 'I failed two years in high school'. I actually managed passing grades, but the fact is none of it took. In my freshman class we had to be instructed collectively for several weeks in English grammar before we could proceed sensibly. Do still remember the teacher, though --- can still see her in reverie, and recall her name clearly....
German does seem to have a number of appropriate terms, and I appreciate your gift of this one. Sometimes people get so eager to fight they cannot see anything but occasion to do so.
"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."
DFW
(54,372 posts)In the future, let me in on the English first so I don't get confused
Due to the nature of my work (when there is no virus chopping off the legs of my mobility, that is), I am in a different country every day, and would lose too much time if I had to request my colleagues to speak English, so I don't. When I explain that I speak nine languages, it is not to claim vast intellectual prowess, but rather to explain how I can get things done with my work schedule. If you can converse with your colleagues in their own languages while pursuing a hectic schedule, you get to lop off cumbersome minutes of every appointment by not needing translation. Living as I do in a country that borders on almost ten others (depending on whether or not one condisers a Baltic ferry route a border), I'd have to be arrogant, stupid, or some combination of the two if I didn't make an effort to learn the languages of the countries that border us, as well as those of major countries nearby. Being married to a German, and speaking German with her at home, of course, does weight the priorities somewhat.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)There is nothing left but memories of Miss Sandow....
Your modesty regarding your linguistic achievement, Sir, does you great credit.
Be well, and stay safe!
DFW
(54,372 posts)That would be us raising our two daughters to be 100% bilingual and bi-cultural. It took an iron-willed effort to speak English to them from day one, paticularly in the first years they could speak, as I would speak to them in English (which they understood perfectly), while they would reply in German, their first language. The fact that my wife and I speak German with each other didn't help. But finally, they started replying in English, especially when they realized that people they cared to converse with, such as my parents and siblings, understood no German. The great payoff came gradually, but now, when they speak English, no one thinks they are anything but American, and when they speak German, no one here thinks they are anything but German. Both, of course, are correct.
As for me, as I said, convenience was the great motivator. Not to say I haven't enjoyed my moments of amusement. I was once introduced to a new employee at a hotel in Brussels that I stay in frequently. I was introduced by a French-speaking employee, and told that the incoming assistant manager was from Sweden. She complimented me on my French, but figured I knew no Swedish at all. I said, no problem, please hold up the palm of your hand and place it one centimeter from my own upheld palm, and close your eyes for thirty seconds. Being the polite Scandinavian, she did as I requested, assuming I was playing some kind of joke on her. After about 30 seconds, I said, OK, I think I have absorbed enough. Enough WHAT? I said, Swedish, of course. She said, yeah, sure. I said that I wouldn't joke about something so easily disproved, and that she could now switch to Swedish if she wished. So she switched to Swedish, and I continued to converse with her in Swedish without missing a beat. After picking her jaw up from the floor where it had dropped, she asked how I had developed such an incredible technique for instant language learning? I said I invented it out of necessity. She was rendered speechless by my "technique."
Finally, I admitted that I had studied Swedish for years in college and visited Sweden regularly. I had little choice, as the rest of the hotel staff, who knew all along that I spoke Swedish, was having difficulty keeping a straight face (as was I).
Mariana
(14,856 posts)Celerity
(43,349 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)p.s. how about Whoopi for veep? She's really good at this!
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Neither President nor Vice President are entry level positions.
We've had 'entry level' VP's before - think Dan Quayle. Not good, no.
crickets
(25,976 posts)iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,649 posts)not that there's anything wrong with that, but
nolabear
(41,960 posts)Shes open to attacks from all over. Me? Id welcome DJTJr if hed help get that monster out of the WH.
Softly and tenderly, Jesus is calling...😏
demmiblue
(36,846 posts)Also, trashing thread due to the drama of it all. DU sometimes feels like middle school... ironically funny given DU's average age.
Cha
(297,196 posts)Joe Biden Yesterday in another OP.
AOC throws Biden under the bus
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13288567
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)I'm going to hold my breath on that one................
brooklynite
(94,535 posts)Squinch
(50,949 posts)llashram
(6,265 posts)ashredux
(2,605 posts)There is no maybe....not sure....I want to see his plan first
la-trucker
(283 posts)although her support for Tara Reade makes this appear hollow and opportunistic. He mouthing about Tara Reade's fake allegation will have legs.
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)+1 for AOC.
budkin
(6,703 posts)This is exactly what we need to beat Trump!
jorgevlorgan
(8,291 posts)honest.abe
(8,678 posts)The controversial interview was the one Tuesday night with "The Wing". This interview was Wed morning with "The View".
She changed her tone completely overnight. Good for her and good for the Democratic nominee Joe Biden who is going to win big in November.
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)"Her remarks went beyond having a conversation about endorsing Biden, though, as AOC went on to say I think its really important that we rally behind our Democratic nominee in November, and argued explicitly against voting third party."
https://www.mediaite.com/news/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-endorses-joe-biden-absolutely-must-rally-behind-our-democratic-nominee/
" Right now, the stakes are just so high when it comes to another four years of Trump," she added. "I think its really important that we rally around the Democratic nominee in November."."
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/492912-ocasio-cortez-on-biden-endorsement-well-see
I fail to see a difference.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)She went on to say, "I think it's legitimate to talk about these things. And if we want, if we again want to have integrity, you can't say, you know both believe women, support all of this, until it inconveniences you, until it inconveniences us."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-joe-biden-its-legitimate-to-talk-about-allegations/
Wed morning on "The View" she said nothing about that.. she focused on endorsing Biden. Appeared to be a complete change of tone.
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)"And I know that there may be a lot of folks that are uncomfortable with that, but as a person that represents an intensely vulnerable community, a community where this choice can very much mean the difference between life and death or being separated from their children or not, I think its for me personally very important to be in solidarity with my family, with the families that I represent in supporting Joe Biden November.""
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/492912-ocasio-cortez-on-biden-endorsement-well-see
In post #108, you had responded to a poster who said there isn't any difference between the Hill article and the Mediate article other then the headlines
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)That is what was significantly different from Tuesday night to Wed morning.
I know this is a bit confusing as there are multiple articles citing multiple interviews but its clear to me she came to her senses Wed morning and dropped all the comments about the Tara Reade allegations and just focused on endorsing Biden.
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)Here's the headlines of the two OPs:
"AOC Endorses Joe Biden: 'Absolutely' Must 'Rally Behind Our Democratic Nominee'"
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13290931
"Ocasio-Cortez on Biden endorsement: 'We'll see'"
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13289932
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)The article and interview I was referring to was from Tuesday.
"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: "It's legitimate to talk about" allegations against Joe Biden"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-joe-biden-its-legitimate-to-talk-about-allegations/
Its fine if you think otherwise. Im just explaining what I was talking about.
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)It happens.
you were arguing what you thought was important and I was arguing about what the OPs were saying.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)I hope I didnt sound like I was arguing. We are on the same team for sure!
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)A friendly discussion is much more accurate!
jorgevlorgan
(8,291 posts)Kaleva
(36,298 posts)If you read the body of both articles, one sees she says the same thing.
jorgevlorgan
(8,291 posts)She didn't. Hence the " that was fast" comments above. People thought she changed her mind based on the hills headline posted a couple hours prior to this one.
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)peggysue2
(10,828 posts)Well, that was a quick turn around. I suspect 'someone' read AOC the Riot Act, as in get onboard now or be forever abandoned.
This election year is not the time to confuse purity with winning. Because all our efforts need to be focused on defeating Trump and his enablers by the biggest margin possible.
RandiFan1290
(6,232 posts)for the trolls
Celerity
(43,349 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)will not help to solve the problems within the United States.
Armando Joe
(11 posts)Nothing in the NYT, WAPo, CNN, etc.
Are you sure she endorsed him?
Maeve
(42,282 posts)Armando Joe
(11 posts)For her to issue an "absolutely" one worder that wasn't part of a formal announcement.
Maeve
(42,282 posts)From the above article:
I think whats really important is that we do realize that, at the end of the day, one of these two candidates are going to be elected president of the United States. Its either going to be Joe Biden or its going to be Donald Trump, the Democratic socialist told the show co-hosts.
I think its important to communicate some empathy. I know for a lot of people this was not the outcome that they may have wanted, and this was not the choice that they wanted to make. But ultimately, when it comes to those two, I dont think its particularly close in terms of what communities will be made more vulnerable, she continued.
marble falls
(57,081 posts)marble falls
(57,081 posts)Demsrule86
(68,563 posts)Her appeal is mostly in really blue districts and states and she can't put together a winning coalition for a national election. She won't win a senate seat in New York or win the Governorship in New York either. New York is not a super liberal state. And when I heard she is considering a run against Schumer, I laughed out loud. Assuming she wins the election this year, she needs to to tend to her district and work her way up in the house. She could possibly win a Mayoral election in New York City...but even that would be tough, and she needs more experience. Any candidate that put her on presidential ticket would drive up GOP opposition, fail to garner moderates in the suburbs and lose the election. I go back and forth. At times I admire her. At other times I don't...we shall see what happens this year.
marble falls
(57,081 posts)but saying there was, throwing her hat in the ring certainly implies an endorsement.
I think it's wrong-minded and politically suicidal to challenge Chuck Schumer. And totally unnecessary. That said, once she gets into the swig of what's possible and what's not, AOL will be an amazing leader in our future. I think she's got a great future and I hope to live long enough to see it. She's still in the making part of being a leader.
My general rule is: no more candidates of my demographic. But I have no problem with Joe Biden. Not one bit. I hope he operates under my general rule when choosing his running mate and he drops the danged back rubs and smooches.
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)While there may or may not be a rule (I question that) from a practical standpoint it would make zero sense to pick someone who was not old enough to be president on day 1. So rule or not, there is a defacto age requirement for VP in practice.
marble falls
(57,081 posts)but there it is. So far it hasn't proven a problem, at least one that the SCOTUS or Congress couldn't clear up.
Demsrule86
(68,563 posts)House. She need experience and has to moderate her views somewhat and abandon the Justice Democrats in order move forward in New York State. which she must do in order to succeed. She is very talented no doubt.