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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 11:43 PM Sep 2012

Reporter Kurt Eichenwald Blasts Ari Fleischer Over 9/11 ‘Truther’ Accusation (MUST-SEE)

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/11/reporter-kurt-eichenwald-blasts-ari-fleischer-over-911-truther-accusation

Reporter Kurt Eichenwald blasts Ari Fleischer over 9/11 ‘truther’ accusation

By Eric W. Dolan
Tuesday, September 11, 2012 23:08 EDT

Tuesday on CNN, reporter Kurt Eichenwald confronted Ari Fleischer after the former White House Press Secretary accused him of believing that George W. Bush was behind the September 11 terror attacks.

“Now, I am kind of angry at Ari today, because the first thing he did was send out a tweet calling me a ’9/11 truther,’” Eichenwald said, while Fleisher nodded in agreement, “meaning one of those people who says George Bush orchestrated 9/11. And that is the kind of garbage, the kind of empty headed garbage, that has prevented history from taking place here.”

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But Fleischer insisted that Eichenwald was merely preaching a “cleaned-up version of trutherism” because his column in the New York Times didn’t criticize former President Bill Clinton. Fleischer described Eichenwald as a “rabid partisan.”

“It is about what did the documents I obtained and saw show,” Eichenwald said. “I’m not going to run around and say, ‘Gee, I have a new story, but Ari Fleischer might be afraid or upset that I’m not spinning it enough in order to bring in Clinton.’ Did Clinton make mistakes? Absolutely. It has nothing to do with this.”

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Reporter Kurt Eichenwald Blasts Ari Fleischer Over 9/11 ‘Truther’ Accusation (MUST-SEE) (Original Post) Hissyspit Sep 2012 OP
Eichenwald blew him away. He called Fleischer on the old bait & switch debate tactic. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #1
I have to say that every time I see or hear Ari F, I want to reach through my laptop screen NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 #2
The most laughable part is that Ari F & Perino were nothing more than messengers pacalo Sep 2012 #5
What is the truth? Who did it? How? Why? Skip Intro Sep 2012 #3
I for one think it's absurd to think that Georgie Porgie knew anything about the attacks on 9/11. rhett o rick Sep 2012 #4
Ari can only smear people because he knows they are guilty for the attacks of 9/11 occurring . . . Major Hogwash Sep 2012 #6
Anyone who questions authority by definition must be a nutjob noise Sep 2012 #7
Why did the Secret Service allow Bush to remain at a publicly known venue for a coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #15
I think we've traced the origin of the 'thruther' smear campaign against Americans sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #20
It is not for us to know noise Sep 2012 #23
Ari may be the stupidest person to ever serve in the WH in a senior position. grantcart Sep 2012 #8
Kurt was excellent in this interview. ari is a lying asshole samsingh Sep 2012 #9
I think fleischer was this far from putting his hands over his ears. He was a bumbling idiot. n/t lamp_shade Sep 2012 #10
Yes, Ari looked like a Compleat Republican Berlum Sep 2012 #11
I actually caught that one on the tube. boston bean Sep 2012 #12
I sure wish Ari would watch what he says, watch what he does. tanyev Sep 2012 #13
Ari immediately resorts to incendiary namecalling, attacking the messenger ProfessionalLeftist Sep 2012 #14
Did you notice he tried to use the old 'truther' talking points to shut down the discussion? sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #18
I wonder where this story leads, Ari? Octafish Sep 2012 #16
Major criminal who got away with his role in the Valerie Plame crime by turning in everyone sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #17
Agreed The Wizard Sep 2012 #21
Everyone knows that the offical lone gunman sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #19
Oustanding and to the point The Wizard Sep 2012 #22
We have a few DUers who do what Ari did....eveytime a question is asked they shout 'truther' Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #24

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
1. Eichenwald blew him away. He called Fleischer on the old bait & switch debate tactic.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 11:49 PM
Sep 2012

You switch the argument to be something else. Of course you only do that when you have a losing argument.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,038 posts)
2. I have to say that every time I see or hear Ari F, I want to reach through my laptop screen
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:02 AM
Sep 2012

and strangle him. What a lying, horrendous, piece of utter shit. Dana Perino had the same effect on me. My blood pressure goes up 100 points when I have to listen....I think Eichenwald did fine, but Ari was allowed to run roughshod over him with the spewing of lies far too much. What is wrong with these people?

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
5. The most laughable part is that Ari F & Perino were nothing more than messengers
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:27 AM
Sep 2012

of the Bush/Cheney cabal's propaganda. He's not even qualified to speak with authority.

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
3. What is the truth? Who did it? How? Why?
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:14 AM
Sep 2012

BASIC journalistic questions that have NOT been answered about 9*11.

I know the official line is bs.

What is the truth?

That's all this truther wants to know.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
4. I for one think it's absurd to think that Georgie Porgie knew anything about the attacks on 9/11.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:22 AM
Sep 2012

Cheney would never trust him with that important of information.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
6. Ari can only smear people because he knows they are guilty for the attacks of 9/11 occurring . . .
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:33 AM
Sep 2012

. . . in the first place.

The neocons are so fucked.

noise

(2,392 posts)
7. Anyone who questions authority by definition must be a nutjob
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:34 AM
Sep 2012

We aren't supposed to question authority! How dare anyone wonder WTF Bush was doing in the lead up to 9/11 not to mention his truly bizarre conduct at Booker Elementary. He doesn't owe anyone an explanation (cough*Romney*cough). We need to have more faith in our leaders! It's just that simple.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
15. Why did the Secret Service allow Bush to remain at a publicly known venue for a
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 09:21 AM
Sep 2012

significant period of time after the second plane hit (and an attack was confirmed with other planes still in the air)???? That stinks to high heaven that a "fix was in" - had the Secret Service felt the threat credible, Bush should have been whisked away immediately. Just one more question I'd like to see a real 9-11 investigation (not one headed by toady Philip Zelikow) answer:

Why did the Secret Service allow Bush to remain at the school (a public venue) after it knew an attack was under way and several planes still unaccounted for????

Put another way:

Why did the Secret Service potentially place the lives of students and teachers at Booker at risk????

Answer those questions, you assholes, or shut up with the 'conspiracy theory' and 'truther' perjoratives.

N.B. Ari Fleischer, one of those assholes, famously warned us all that we had better 'watch what we say.' FU, Ari Fleischer.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
20. I think we've traced the origin of the 'thruther' smear campaign against Americans
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 07:05 PM
Sep 2012

who are too smart to believe the ultimate CT, which was the story fabricated by the Bush gang almost immediately after the tragedy occurred.

See how Ari the Liar and Propagandist-in-Chief reflexively used that smear to try to discredit an actual journalist. Almost as if he wrote it himself!

I think he gave himself away completely by doing that. I always knew it was probably a bought and paid for smear campaign to silence people's questions, but I wondered who was behind it. I had suspicions, but Ari just put himself out there and answered my questions. What an idiot he is. He and Bush were well matched. They both faithfully 'catapulted the propaganda' for their bosses.

noise

(2,392 posts)
23. It is not for us to know
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:16 AM
Sep 2012

We simply must accept that our leaders act in good faith at all times.

The whole Bush Presidency is still unexplained. The guy had tutors prep him on foreign policy like he was cramming for a college exam. His father was President only eight years before him! Talk about a sense of entitlement.

Fleischer is trying to conflate Bush with the country as if valid criticism of Bush means one is attacking America. Garbage propaganda that for some reason has worked.

Why is Bush's patriotism not up for review?

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
11. Yes, Ari looked like a Compleat Republican
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 07:09 AM
Sep 2012

So defensive, evasive, and deceptive. Talk about a Practiced Liar. But it is still screamingly obvious to anyone watching that he is a liar (R).

boston bean

(36,225 posts)
12. I actually caught that one on the tube.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 07:11 AM
Sep 2012

I don't usually watch cable news any longer, except on the web when someone points to it.

But this one I actually saw, it was a good segment.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
14. Ari immediately resorts to incendiary namecalling, attacking the messenger
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 09:14 AM
Sep 2012

Very telling. Very typical. He's trying to defend the indefensible. He failed.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
18. Did you notice he tried to use the old 'truther' talking points to shut down the discussion?
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:17 PM
Sep 2012

I always wondered where those talking points originated from. Now we know, you can always count on Ari to carry the propaganda message around. After all that was his job under the illegitimate Bush administration.

I bet they paid big money to get those talking points. Probably to one of those Contractors, like HB Gary, or Stratfor.

But it was sort of creepy to see him use what we've seen for so long on the internet and realize where they came from.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
17. Major criminal who got away with his role in the Valerie Plame crime by turning in everyone
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:38 PM
Sep 2012

else, coward that he is.

Why is he back on TV? They lucked out and ended up not going to jail for the crimes, and the slink back into the public eye thinking people have forgotten their crimes.

This coward has not a shred of credibility, anywhere, except maybe with the extreme far right and I am glad to see them being challenged. But he should not even be allowed to comment on that day, unless he is under oath and in a court of law somewhere.

We heard enough of his lies to last several lifetimes.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
19. Everyone knows that the offical lone gunman
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 07:03 PM
Sep 2012

conspiracy theory is the only possible truth in the Kennedy assassination because it was rendered by respected people on the Warren Commission. The fact that it also served their interests was coincidental. The same coincidence applies to the 911 Commission and the Twin Towers catastrophe. Dismissing people who have raised serious questions about lies and omissions of fact in these investigation is what one would expect from a stenographic corporate media. These people and power elite they serve are the same people who lied us into Vietnam, Granada, Panama Iraq and Afghanistan. The people who waged covert war in El Salvador, Nicaragua and Honduras, who deregulated and then bailed out the nation's biggest banks, who passed legislation forbidding states to investigate real estate mortgage fraud, who outsourced the nation's industrial base and cannibalized what they couldn't, the people who exempted credit card debt and student loans from bankruptcy protection while raising those costs, the liars who are creating a massive private school to prison cash cow at public expense, who allow tens of thousands of Americans to die annually for lack of affordable health care and have in a single generation overseen the greatest upward transfer of a nations wealth in the history of the world, who beg fiscal restraint, yet spend more money on the armed forces than the rest of planet combined, who rig elections. These are the people who would cavalierly risk the planetary biosphere to satiate whatever demons posses them, and their word is taken without reasonable proof for what happened in Dallas and New York? Give me a break. The other conspiracy theories should at least have equal time. You know equivalency. I thought that's what the steno pool was all about.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
24. We have a few DUers who do what Ari did....eveytime a question is asked they shout 'truther'
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:21 AM
Sep 2012

and 'CS' and 'woo woo' and various slag made up and otherwise. Can't bear the asking of a question, so tenuous is their grip on things.

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