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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAny One Else Believe that Netanyahu Wants To Cost Obama The Election
I mean i think now more than ever its obvious that he is in bed with Romney.And is trying to make the Jewish vote abandon O .
riverbendviewgal
(4,255 posts)and also many in Israel don't want a war either.
here is a good read on this subject.
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article364
Rather than seeing Netanyahu as trying the force the United States into an attack, it is more useful to see Netanyahu's rhetoric as valuable to U.S. strategy. Israel and the United States remain geopolitically aligned. Israel's bellicosity is not meant to signal an imminent attack, but to support the U.S. agenda of isolating and maintaining pressure on Iran. That would indicate more speeches from Netanyahu and greater fear of war. But speeches and emotions aside, intensifying psychological pressure on Iran is more likely than war.
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garthranzz
(1,330 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)No. "Support for Israel" has always, always been a "shield" term - you know, like "family values" being a shield for homophobia, or "protecting the border" being a shield for hating Hispanics.
You won't find too many Israel supporters who are particularly concerned about what benefits Israel.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)What are they actually concerned about?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)it's one I've been giving thought to researching and writing, actually. What's abundantly clear to me is that the "Israel Supporters" are really no different from the people who spent their time boosting the Iraq war. It's not that they care about one side or the other. They just want people to die, and htey want to be the "winning side," because it makes them feel tough and manly.
I'm sure there's more to it. As I said, that's full-on essay stuff, though
mucifer
(23,631 posts)A lot less of us are Zionists than a generation ago.
Oh and there is no secret Zionist movement to take over the world.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)the situation by agreeing to meet with him. That looks very bad and seems to support the accusation that Obama is trying to prevent Israel from protecting itself. People would've thought...well, Obama is being reasonable,he's meeting with Netanyahu, he's working on it, he's not anti-Israel, etc. When Obama refused the mtg, it fed into Netanyahu's statements.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)garthranzz
(1,330 posts)Of course not. Rather than seeing the first "announcement" as a balloon from Adelson or some RWer in Israel - I note that Blitzer did not say the "Israeli source" was in Bibi's circle, they will say that this a smoke screen.
What a mess.
Cha
(298,077 posts)Cha
(298,077 posts)conclusions.
"The Obama administration pushed back later Tuesday.
"Contrary to reports in the press, there was never a request for Prime Minister Netanyahu to meet with President Obama in Washington, nor was a request for a meeting ever denied," the White House said Tuesday night in its statement, which made reference to "our close cooperation on Iran and other security issues."
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Okay!
madaboutharry
(40,247 posts)the majority of American Jews think Netanyahu is an asshole.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)...would be a bigger mess for the rushpublicans than it would for President Obama. Firstly...there's little political appetite for the U.S. getting involved in another Middle East mess. Bishop Willard would turn war hawk and scare more voters than he'd turn on. Think about the Georgia fiasco that happened with Gramps McCain in '08...he jumped the gun and looked like a foreign policy fool.
The Jewish vote will not rally around Bishop Willard, Bibi and Adelson's money. There is a segment of American Jews who never have liked President Obama...didn't vote for him in '08 and won't in '12. Not all American Jews are Likudniks and reject the extreme right wing of Israel as much as we do their fundie supporters here.
While I used to think Bibi was sabre rattling about Iran, I suspect he's ready to launch an attack. Syria's and Egypt are tied up in their own domestic situations and there are really few downsides...Bibi doesn't give a rat's ass about world opinion. I do think that he risks alienating more Americans that could help President Obama.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)I 100% fully expect Israel to strike Iran next month, in OCtober. I 100% expect the Cheney/Rumsfeld right wing to pull their own "reverse" wag the dog/October surprise with Israel striking Iran. Hide and watch. It will happen.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)in the least. AIPAC, on the other hand, has been going steady with the fringe of the Israeli right wing for as long as I can remember.
jsr
(7,712 posts)He's a low life thug who is trying to exploit an American presidential election for personal gain.
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)rl6214
(8,142 posts)I don't really see it changing this election.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts). . . now that he's not in bed with Newtie the Cutie. I guess Newt had to ask Adelson to leave in order to make room for Callista's successor.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)And a few days ago I posted one of them.
But Netanyahu spent all day today slamming Obama and Hillary Clinton and so there were a number of new articles on the phenomenon.
PB
Thrill
(19,178 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Yeah, I think it's possible.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Is busy making his own mess in his own country. It won't be long before he gets thrown out on his behind due to his incompetence. It won't have anything to do with anyone else - he's paved his own road.
Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)on Jimmy Durante's face.
Bibi wants Romney/the Neocons in power -- easier to push around and hide behind their skirts.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)He is an extremist, and years ago when he slipped from power, I was relieved. He's managed to scratch his way back to the top, and desperately wants Romney to win the election so they can wreak havoc together. But I think his influence in this country is minimal.