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Chump Sent 170 Broken Ventilators To California As An Insult (Original Post) Initech Mar 2020 OP
Donald Trump never passes up a chance to kill Americans. dalton99a Mar 2020 #1
Or piss off his enemies. Initech Mar 2020 #2
President Death Texaswitchy Mar 2020 #3
Second that Rebl2 Mar 2020 #17
He's the Pestilence-in-Chief. calimary Mar 2020 #26
I like that! It sums it all up nicely. BComplex Mar 2020 #56
Death Panel donnie niyad Mar 2020 #42
Funny how the GOP went from the party of "Obamacare is going to kill your grandma" to... Initech Mar 2020 #49
Effing people with no ability to see themselves. Hypocrites and cult-washed BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2020 #52
Wow! Really? Laelth Mar 2020 #4
170 out of a shipment of how many? Are other States seeing the same percentage of damaged vents? Freethinker65 Mar 2020 #5
You are absolutely correct. RVN VET71 Mar 2020 #36
more details are needed, not knowing the total number of ventilators Raine Mar 2020 #46
Yup, I would expect a decent amount of mothballed equipment to need reconditioning Amishman Mar 2020 #54
Just shared this across my social media FirstLight Mar 2020 #6
I'm seriously hoping that cooler heads will prevail at the state level. Initech Mar 2020 #7
Exactly! The Wielding Truth Mar 2020 #43
Trump still doesn't grasp that he not insulting his procon Mar 2020 #8
Wait...let me help.... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2020 #10
Wrong..he gets it and knows exactly what he is doing. SADISTS do that. BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #12
Remember, he cut off health insurance for his nephew's sick infant child. subterranean Mar 2020 #27
Back... I forgot that one. nt procon Mar 2020 #30
Manslaughter of an innocent bystander as revenge... It's just a matter of scale renate Mar 2020 #58
Gov. Gavin Newsom's Twitter has this up; A HERETIC I AM Mar 2020 #9
There was just a story on the local news here about this. Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #11
How sick is that son of a bitch? He needs gone now. Botany Mar 2020 #13
Public enemy #1 Trump wnylib Mar 2020 #22
What the Hell bubbazero Mar 2020 #14
In true psychopath style. We should expect nothing more from our psychopath pres. littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #15
That's the California Republic spirit. roamer65 Mar 2020 #16
170 out of how many total ... Raine Mar 2020 #18
Trump sent a bunch to China, over sent Florida and stiffer a bunch of states. Article up here in notdarkyet Mar 2020 #47
I was born in California. Attaboy, my peeps! :) nt Sloumeau Mar 2020 #19
The act a rather stupid 10 year old. The president of the United States? Jim__ Mar 2020 #20
He is seriously petty as fuck. Initech Mar 2020 #23
This statement isn't a joke, gab13by13 Mar 2020 #21
Donald Trump - Murderer. BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #24
He reminds me of Longshanks in Braveheart. Flaleftist Mar 2020 #25
The Governors need to band together to help one another. onecaliberal Mar 2020 #28
The ads keep writing themselves. NoMoreRepugs Mar 2020 #29
MCGA! denbot Mar 2020 #31
How sick and twisted is that? dlk Mar 2020 #32
Extremely! Initech Mar 2020 #37
Joe Biden: Thanks for the campaign ad, Donny Littlehands. Grokenstein Mar 2020 #33
If that was intentional, then I would call that attempted murder relayerbob Mar 2020 #34
More specifically, terrorism relayerbob Mar 2020 #40
Fuck Yeah.. the trumpVirus Loses Again. Cha Mar 2020 #35
I wonder if it's the same thing as this. Igel Mar 2020 #38
GOP, in general, and the Grotesque Orange Pustule, specifically, is a threat to life. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #39
This whole thing Ahpook Mar 2020 #41
Gee, I wonder how Kevin McCarthy & Devin Nunes' constituents BadgerMom Mar 2020 #44
Many are in the cult and will probably claim . . . Iliyah Mar 2020 #51
I'm a senior living in CA Frances Mar 2020 #45
THIS HAS TO STOP!!!!! Upthevibe Mar 2020 #48
Punishing democratic governors. nt Hotler Mar 2020 #50
A New Low For Twitler colsohlibgal Mar 2020 #53
INVOKE THE 25th AMENDMENT NOW!! Before he kills us all. dreamland Mar 2020 #55
He's Kim Jong trump. George II Mar 2020 #57

Initech

(100,070 posts)
49. Funny how the GOP went from the party of "Obamacare is going to kill your grandma" to...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 12:47 AM
Mar 2020

"We must kill the olds for the greater good of the youngs." Fuckers.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
4. Wow! Really?
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:39 PM
Mar 2020

This is coming from the governor of California, so I am inclined to believe it. It’s really disturbing, though.



-Laelth

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
36. You are absolutely correct.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:41 PM
Mar 2020

Trump has shown his incompetence and petulance in many very clear and irrefutable ways -- but if the s.o.b. actually sent California a single load of ventilators that he knew were broken -- and sent them as an act of spite -- then this would be the biggest story of the entire pandemic. But there is not nearly enough information in the story to point a definitive finger at Trump and/or his worthless lackeys (talking about you, Stephen, and you Jared).

Also, if other States, including red States, also received broken ventilators, then that is the story and it should be thoroughly investigated and receive prominent national coverage, as well.

There's just not enough information here to know if this was deliberate or just slipshod management -- of which there seems to be a lot in this Administration.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
46. more details are needed, not knowing the total number of ventilators
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:43 PM
Mar 2020

sent makes the story worthless. As a Californian I'm not getting all bent out of shape without having details and being able to judge whether this was intentional or not.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
54. Yup, I would expect a decent amount of mothballed equipment to need reconditioning
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:55 AM
Mar 2020

Sounds like they have common simple issues if most / all can be repaired in a few days. Dried out seals, cracked tubing type stuff?

This also seems most likely to be some rushed grunts not doing a function check before shipping them out.

Plenty of real shit to kick Trump's orange ass for, but this probably isn't one. Unless an order surfaces from him saying to ship the broken units to CA, that would change everything (and I could see being real).

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
6. Just shared this across my social media
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:02 PM
Mar 2020

Mfer!

Good thing CA has as many companies as it does and a smart Governor!

This Orange Menace must be stopped...I simply cannot believe how this man and the ones around him are still in power
God help us, let's hope we GET a chance to vote come November!!!!

Initech

(100,070 posts)
7. I'm seriously hoping that cooler heads will prevail at the state level.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:12 PM
Mar 2020

Because they sure as hell are not at the national level. At least we have Newsom. Then there is Ron Desantis.

procon

(15,805 posts)
8. Trump still doesn't grasp that he not insulting his
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:12 PM
Mar 2020

political foes, he's impacting the lives of real people who are scared and sick.

What kind of a monster treats sick people like that?

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
10. Wait...let me help....
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:19 PM
Mar 2020

"What kind of a monster treats sick people like that?"


Here;

"A monster treats sick people like that."


There. Fixed it for ya.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
12. Wrong..he gets it and knows exactly what he is doing. SADISTS do that.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:21 PM
Mar 2020

He is a narcissistic, sociopathic sadist. Classic case.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
27. Remember, he cut off health insurance for his nephew's sick infant child.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:15 PM
Mar 2020

Simply out of revenge because his nephew's family had filed a lawsuit over Fred Trump's will.

That's the kind of monster he is and has always been.

renate

(13,776 posts)
58. Manslaughter of an innocent bystander as revenge... It's just a matter of scale
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:10 PM
Mar 2020

The small child of a family member he hated, the voters in the state of a governor who didn’t pledge fealty convincingly enough... someone must pay for his being offended.

He is an unspeakable monster.

Mr.Bill

(24,286 posts)
11. There was just a story on the local news here about this.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:21 PM
Mar 2020

They never mentioned this aspect of the story. They just said the ventilators were expired and/or out of warranty. The Governor and the Mayor of San Jose were at Bloom Energy talking about Bloom Energy ramping up an assembly line ang getting the equipment operative.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
13. How sick is that son of a bitch? He needs gone now.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:22 PM
Mar 2020

Take him out give him a quick trial and then blank him. He wants to kill Americans and is
taking joy in their death and suffering.

At least bring impeachment charges 1st thing Monday morning and let the GOP senate
defend that murdering piece of garbage.

bubbazero

(296 posts)
14. What the Hell
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:25 PM
Mar 2020

Why are we stockpiling "broken" ventilators. This is life saving equipment--to be used in an emergency! This would be like the local fire dept not changing the flat tire on the fire engine until the 911 call comes in. What the hell is going on?!

littlemissmartypants

(22,656 posts)
15. In true psychopath style. We should expect nothing more from our psychopath pres.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:25 PM
Mar 2020

Thank goodness for the exceptional resilience of Mr. Newsome. That he's created a workaround will piss President Psychopath off. Well done, California!

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
16. That's the California Republic spirit.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:30 PM
Mar 2020

California should start talking to China for medical expertise and equipment.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
18. 170 out of how many total ...
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:39 PM
Mar 2020

I did a search but couldn't find out just how many ventalators there were in total.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
47. Trump sent a bunch to China, over sent Florida and stiffer a bunch of states. Article up here in
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:47 PM
Mar 2020

Threads.

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
21. This statement isn't a joke,
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:50 PM
Mar 2020

but it appears to me that Trump is deliberately trying to kill Democrats.

I bet the people in "The Villages" in Florida all have masks and gloves or whatever else they need.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
25. He reminds me of Longshanks in Braveheart.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:08 PM
Mar 2020

There is a scene in a battle where he orders the archers to shoot. One of his commanders reminds him that his own men are down there and they will get killed. His response "Yes, but we will kill there's as well."

Are Trump supporters in red states really okay with his actions killing Trump supporters in blue states?

onecaliberal

(32,855 posts)
28. The Governors need to band together to help one another.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:21 PM
Mar 2020

There is NO plan and no response which means it will go on longer than it would have.

Grokenstein

(5,722 posts)
33. Joe Biden: Thanks for the campaign ad, Donny Littlehands.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:38 PM
Mar 2020

OP: "He could have sent a picture of his middle finger and saved the trouble."

No, this is good. The entire nation gets to see what a petty, murderous asshole is the IMPOTUS, plus they get to see how much better pretty much everyone else involved can be, plus California gets the vents. Best outcome one could hope for under this absolute muttonheaded man-baby monarch.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
34. If that was intentional, then I would call that attempted murder
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:40 PM
Mar 2020

Would like to see more on that, and see it in the news

Igel

(35,300 posts)
38. I wonder if it's the same thing as this.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:44 PM
Mar 2020

Same kind of equipment, same participants.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bloom-energy-state-california-almo-201500262.html
Trivial digging shows that "today" is 3/28/20, but I can't find a date in this text. The press-release is 3/28/20, and today's 3/28/20, so unless Yahoo new article provider is psychic or a prophet ...

Notice they're going to refurbish and "ship them to state agencies and hospitals throughout the country."

There are 12,700 ventilators in the stockpile (or were), plus more that were past warranty, according to this. I think I'd suggest "past expiry date", but maybe they're the same thing.


https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/amid-mounting-shortage-5-facts-about-the-nations-stockpile-of-emergency-m/574602/ says they have 16,600 ventilators. That puts a number to the ones they can't use, 3,900. Which, apparently, Bloom is going to refurbish.

Oddly, Newsome asked for 10,000 of the ventilators. Leaving 2700 working ones for the rest of the country. Doubt that request *should* be honored.

After that, it becomes PR.

The tweet seems to make an unlikely claim. Rather hard, sorting through them, finding just the broken ones. Lot of work, and I doubt that the low-level staff would look favorably on that process. Now, past their useful dates, *that*'s possible.

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
44. Gee, I wonder how Kevin McCarthy & Devin Nunes' constituents
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:34 PM
Mar 2020

feel about that. I can only hope it makes them anti-Republican enough to vote for the Kevin/Devin Dem opponents in November.

And, not for nothin’, Newsom is demonstrating the American can-do response that MAGAts only give lip service to.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
51. Many are in the cult and will probably claim . . .
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:47 AM
Mar 2020

this information is fake because Democrats hates shithole.

Frances

(8,545 posts)
45. I'm a senior living in CA
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:39 PM
Mar 2020

A friend told me another senior said she’d never voted for a Democrat in her life but she’s going to vote for Democrats this fall

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
53. A New Low For Twitler
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:54 AM
Mar 2020

He is a thoroughly A-1 disgusting excuse for a human who possesses zero empathy, it’s all about him.

I keep believing that each vile act or words is causing him to lose another suburban voter, particularly women.

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