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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:30 PM Mar 2020

Brutal. Scathing. Accurate.

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the General Discussion forum).


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Brutal. Scathing. Accurate. (Original Post) kpete Mar 2020 OP
k&r Demovictory9 Mar 2020 #1
K&R musette_sf Mar 2020 #2
Should be a new national ad (for DT to sue to suppress) nt pat_k Mar 2020 #3
An embarrassment to humanity. Karadeniz Mar 2020 #4
More like an outright offense. ...nt 2naSalit Mar 2020 #22
Donald Trump's ego will cost lives Gothmog Mar 2020 #5
Only, not just "will" cost G_j Mar 2020 #6
Yes, and it may be uncountable lives. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #9
K&R smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #7
I think this is the most effective ad I've seen thus far. tman Mar 2020 #8
Kick dalton99a Mar 2020 #10
Has anybody told the fool that he won Michigan? CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #11
He barely won it by 0.23%. He's not gutsy. He's stupid. Plus many outside of Michigan Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #18
But, But, what about the Two Corinthians? What about them? bubbazero Mar 2020 #19
Two Corinthians walk into a bar... leftieNanner Mar 2020 #23
Two Corinthians walked into a bar wnylib Mar 2020 #24
Pedal to the metal serious The Blue Flower Mar 2020 #12
Sorry, I am not moved. Remember, Trump says that any publicity is good publicity. littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #13
+1000 ancianita Mar 2020 #15
I find your comment most interesting DIVINEprividence Mar 2020 #25
How to Deal With a Psychopath... littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #32
These are how to deal with a psychopath drmeow Mar 2020 #39
What argument? The post is a direct response to a question by DIVINEprividence. littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #40
You made a claim - this won't convince Trump's followers drmeow Mar 2020 #41
Full ignore. nt littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #42
Good points. Alternatives wnylib Mar 2020 #26
Nah, it uses his own hateful words against him over and over and over. brush Mar 2020 #37
K; R CatWoman Mar 2020 #14
Now who says Democrats don't know how to message. What makes this potent Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #16
K&R nt avebury Mar 2020 #17
Wonder if he considers how many red state parents have kids living in Washington...hand up here. Trueblue Texan Mar 2020 #20
And no one needs to make anything up for ads lunatica Mar 2020 #21
Like the ad. The only change I would make would be to start with the charts at end and iluvtennis Mar 2020 #27
Yes...for this I "hacked into" my husband's FB to post to my fellow cilla4progress Mar 2020 #28
Fuck Trump GeorgiaPeanut Mar 2020 #29
Brilliant. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #30
Forwarding to JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF DispondentRepublican Mar 2020 #31
Kick. MontanaMama Mar 2020 #33
Oh, dear. Someone's fee-fees just got bruised Vogon_Glory Mar 2020 #34
Nice start. Pile it on! n/t Harker Mar 2020 #35
Every now and then Stephanie Miller plays just the words from the Upthevibe Mar 2020 #36
You're right. Sadly, that is brutal and accurate. n/t Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #38
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Mar 2020 #43

Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)
1. k&r
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:32 PM
Mar 2020

musette_sf

(10,201 posts)
2. K&R
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:33 PM
Mar 2020

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
3. Should be a new national ad (for DT to sue to suppress) nt
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:35 PM
Mar 2020

Karadeniz

(22,516 posts)
4. An embarrassment to humanity.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:36 PM
Mar 2020

2naSalit

(86,610 posts)
22. More like an outright offense. ...nt
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:03 PM
Mar 2020

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
5. Donald Trump's ego will cost lives
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:39 PM
Mar 2020

G_j

(40,367 posts)
6. Only, not just "will" cost
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:41 PM
Mar 2020

already “has” cost lives!

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,345 posts)
9. Yes, and it may be uncountable lives.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:47 PM
Mar 2020
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
7. K&R
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:44 PM
Mar 2020

He is such a disgusting pig. I hate him so much.

tman

(983 posts)
8. I think this is the most effective ad I've seen thus far.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:47 PM
Mar 2020

dalton99a

(81,486 posts)
10. Kick
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:49 PM
Mar 2020

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
11. Has anybody told the fool that he won Michigan?
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:59 PM
Mar 2020

He thinks he's getting back at the Twin Cities.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
18. He barely won it by 0.23%. He's not gutsy. He's stupid. Plus many outside of Michigan
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:42 PM
Mar 2020

As to voters outside of Michigan, many christians are almost by reflex polite, and are a bit taken aback as a first take when tRump says "that woman" instead of Governor Gretchen Whitmer.

When placed in context in this ad it hammers home that tRump is clueless.

If that segment of the base were President, they would at least be polite in a time of crisis where a nation would pull together. It would be a small and christian thing to do. Of course not exclusively christian.

And, of course, tRump is not a true christian. Which the more they notice the Empathy and decency of Biden, the more acceptable he becomes.

bubbazero

(296 posts)
19. But, But, what about the Two Corinthians? What about them?
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:46 PM
Mar 2020

leftieNanner

(15,100 posts)
23. Two Corinthians walk into a bar...
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:06 PM
Mar 2020

I hate this man beyond anything.

wnylib

(21,458 posts)
24. Two Corinthians walked into a bar
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:08 PM
Mar 2020

for a glass of wine. Met Trump and Pence having a cup of covfefe. ....

How would you finish this?

The Blue Flower

(5,442 posts)
12. Pedal to the metal serious
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:05 PM
Mar 2020

About time. Bravo team Biden.

littlemissmartypants

(22,656 posts)
13. Sorry, I am not moved. Remember, Trump says that any publicity is good publicity.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:15 PM
Mar 2020

We need to start writing him out of the script. This ad is way too nice. It calls attention to the traits Trump finds endearing. He won't even get it. His psychopath followers won't either. It highlights what they adore about him. They don’t think he's evil because he thinks like them. Let that sink in.

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
15. +1000
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:23 PM
Mar 2020
 

DIVINEprividence

(443 posts)
25. I find your comment most interesting
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:16 PM
Mar 2020

I think I agree with you but I am not sure. You have intrigued me. If what you are saying is true, how would you play this?

littlemissmartypants

(22,656 posts)
32. How to Deal With a Psychopath...
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:08 PM
Mar 2020
https://www.inc.com/amy-morin/advice-from-a-therapist-5-ways-to-with-a-psychopath-at-work.html

How to Deal With a Psychopath...snip...

If you must deal with a psychopath, try these five strategies:

1. Keep Your Emotions in Check

No matter how frustrated or upset you feel, keep your emotions in check. Losing your cool gives a psychopath more power over you, as he'll see that he can manipulate your emotions. Present a calm demeanor at all times.


2. Don't Show That You're Intimidated

Psychopaths often use intimidation to control others. A psychopath may make subtle threats, stand over you while you're talking, or use aggressive language to get you to back down. Stand your ground in an assertive manner, and report incidents of bullying or harassment to human resources.

3. Don't Buy Into Their Stories

Psychopaths often use long-winded tales to paint themselves as victims. They often blame other people and refuse to take any responsibility for their wrongdoing. Showing sympathy for them plays into their hand, so keep discussions centered on facts only.

4. Turn the Conversation Back on Them

Pointing out a psychopath's flaws can be the best way to disarm them. So when a psychopath blames someone else, turn the conversation back on them. Say something like, "Are you doing OK today? I saw how you responded in the meeting today and I wonder if you might be stressed out."

5. Opt for Online Communication Whenever You Can

A 2016 study published in Personality and Individual Differences found that psychopaths excel at negotiating when they're communicating face-to-face. Online conversations make it difficult--if not impossible--for them to charm their way into a better deal. So consider requesting all communication occur via email if you can.

Build Your Mental Strength
If you can't escape daily interaction with a psychopath, it's especially important to work on building your mental muscles. Get proactive about taking care of yourself and managing your stress.

If you're struggling, consider talking to a mental health professional. It's difficult to stay mentally strong when you're working alongside a toxic person.

drmeow

(5,017 posts)
39. These are how to deal with a psychopath
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:51 AM
Mar 2020

directly. They don't have any bearing on how to persuade cult followers to leave a cult.

I'm not saying you aren't right just that this data isn't relevant to your argument.

littlemissmartypants

(22,656 posts)
40. What argument? The post is a direct response to a question by DIVINEprividence.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:13 AM
Mar 2020

And you are being a bit of a buttinsky.

I'm not now, nor was I then, interested in starting a discussion about cults and their members.

drmeow

(5,017 posts)
41. You made a claim - this won't convince Trump's followers
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:19 AM
Mar 2020

Someone asked you for clarification.

You provided a response - here's how you deal with a psychopath.

This is an "argument" from a philosophical perspective (not a fight-argument) - as if you were writing a paper laying out a case (argument) for something.

I'm saying your response does not support your claim - not that your claim is necessarily wrong, just that the case you make does not support your claim.

As for the "buttinsky" - you're posting on a public forum, if you don't want people to comment make it a PM.

littlemissmartypants

(22,656 posts)
42. Full ignore. nt
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:21 AM
Mar 2020

wnylib

(21,458 posts)
26. Good points. Alternatives
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:22 PM
Mar 2020

might be to eliminate any mention of Trump and focus solely on what Dems propose in handling the crisis. Hit the areas that most concern people, e.g. relief from health insurance deductibles and copays during the crisis. Plans for economic recovery, a Medicare option, how to proceed gradually with a return to work, following medical guidelines, etc.

In other words, show the leadership that the people crave and that Trump lacks. Just show a contrast without mentioning his name at all.

It works for Cuomo in his covid 19 briefings, and he's not even running.

brush

(53,778 posts)
37. Nah, it uses his own hateful words against him over and over and over.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 12:31 AM
Mar 2020

We need to keep his sorry, inept hatefulness in the voters faces.

Your approach can work too. There are many ways to attack that orange pustule.

CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
14. K; R
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:17 PM
Mar 2020

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
16. Now who says Democrats don't know how to message. What makes this potent
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:33 PM
Mar 2020

One unremarked thing about Biden's ad that makes it very effective is that it hits while the events are fresh, fresh in the memory of viewers.

It's timely. Out there fast.

tRump thinks his daily presser rallies are great PR, but Biden is pouncing and reminding voters of his failures as they happen. tRump's daily performances provide so much material.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
17. K&R nt
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:39 PM
Mar 2020

Trueblue Texan

(2,429 posts)
20. Wonder if he considers how many red state parents have kids living in Washington...hand up here.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:50 PM
Mar 2020

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
21. And no one needs to make anything up for ads
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:00 PM
Mar 2020

This ad simply tells it like it is.

Gasp!

iluvtennis

(19,858 posts)
27. Like the ad. The only change I would make would be to start with the charts at end and
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:40 PM
Mar 2020

follow with the video the clips.



cilla4progress

(24,731 posts)
28. Yes...for this I "hacked into" my husband's FB to post to my fellow
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:48 PM
Mar 2020

Washingtonians... at the risk of his ire (he doesn't like it when I do that).

Can't people see this for what it is? Genocidal. Homicidal. Psychopathic.

 

GeorgiaPeanut

(360 posts)
29. Fuck Trump
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:50 PM
Mar 2020

Good for Hoarse Whisperer

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
30. Brilliant. n/t
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:52 PM
Mar 2020
 
31. Forwarding to JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 10:54 PM
Mar 2020

...As much as I despise having to!!

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)
33. Kick.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:10 PM
Mar 2020

Gawd I hate this man.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
34. Oh, dear. Someone's fee-fees just got bruised
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:10 PM
Mar 2020

I think I’m going to go cry...

On second thought, no I’m not.

Harker

(14,018 posts)
35. Nice start. Pile it on! n/t
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:18 PM
Mar 2020

Upthevibe

(8,048 posts)
36. Every now and then Stephanie Miller plays just the words from the
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 12:28 AM
Mar 2020

character of Jesse Pinkman (Aaron Paul - Breaking Bad) when talking about the Walter White character (played by one of the finest actors of our time, Bryan Cranston).

I pulled up a montage on YouTube:

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
38. You're right. Sadly, that is brutal and accurate. n/t
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:50 AM
Mar 2020

Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
43. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:27 AM
Mar 2020

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