Florida is going to be up shit creek without
a paddle - this is just beginning
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I did not know that! I guess I assumed because they keep voting for people like Scott, De Santis, Bondi, etc. that it was majority Republican. Thanks for teaching me something today. 
Leon County, Tallahassee, is also.
Seems like the education centers tend to be counties that are predominately democrat, rather than republican. (democrat is properly used in that sentence... 
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I'm inundated with plastic bags, which we leave outside, but it's very efficient. We're early 60s, in good health, but not stupid.
I walked the dog last night and saw neighbors, older and much less healthy than me, congregating near each other. They called for me to come over. I said, "no thanks, I'm walking the dog." 
... any sympathy or compassion for them ?
Now don't you be cold hearted.
KY jelly....... you'er in business.. Oh yes.. virus at no extra charge...
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Freedumb,
We don't need or want any restrictions.
We are tough individualists.
My dad is one of them, he's been in lockdown for 3 weeks at his senior community.
It's not like this is a video game where you are running from a shockwave.
Panic is the last thing we need.
Stop allowing leadership to be fucking super shits, now there is a start?
Hey media, hardball that SOB eh? Yeah end the pressers, we don't give a fuck!
None left to give, you thought we had an endless supply?
HOPE my friends (high school classmates + cyber-friends) survive.
olds heaven. A pack of hateful berks overall.
Generation Pickleball: Welcome to Florida’s Political Tomorrowland
Republicans’ political future looks a lot like this vibrant, fast-growing, Trump-friendly retirement community outside of Orlando.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/06/18/florida-senior-citizens-vote-election-2018-218758
The Villages is America’s largest retirement community, a carefully planned, meticulously groomed dreamscape of gated subdivisions, wall-to-wall golf courses, adult-only pools and old-fashioned town squares. It’s advertised as “Florida’s friendliest hometown,” and it’s supposed to evoke a bygone era of traditional values when Americans knew their neighbors, respected their elders and followed the rules. It has the highest concentration of military veterans of any metropolitan area without a military base. It has strict regulations enforcing the uniformity of homes (no second stories, no bright colors, no modern flourishes) as well as the people living in them (no families with children, except to visit). And it is Trump country, a reliably Republican, vocally patriotic, almost entirely white enclave that gave the president nearly 70 percent of the vote.
Older voters are America’s most reliable voters, which is why baby-boomer boomtowns like The Villages represent the most significant threat to a potential Democratic wave in Florida in 2018—and the most significant source of Republican optimism for many years to come. Because while the Villages may look like the past, with its retro architecture and gray-haired demographics, it sells like the future. This master-planned paradise an hour northwest of Disney World has been the fastest-growing metro area in the United States in four of the past five years. And as the baby boom generation continues to retire, The Villages is continuing to expand into nearby cattle pastures, luring more pensioners to this fantasyland in the sunshine, gradually swinging America’s largest swing state to the right.
Trump supporters who get the most media attention tend to be economically anxious laborers in economically depressed factory towns. But in Florida, economically secure retirement meccas like The Villages are the real reason Trump won in 2016—and why the state’s Republicans, who have controlled Tallahassee for two decades, think they can avoid a blue wave in 2018 and help reelect Trump in 2020. For all the hype about Puerto Ricans moving to the Sunshine State after Hurricane Maria, or high school students like the Parkland gun control activists turning 18 and registering to vote, any Democratic surge could be offset by the migration of Republican-leaning seniors who like Florida’s balmy weather and lack of income tax. If midterm elections typically play out as judgments on the presidency, then Florida’s upcoming contests will be a race between the usual laws of political gravity and the state’s demographic destiny: Trump remains unpopular with younger voters, and Democrats have already flipped four Florida legislative seats in low-profile special elections this year, but the older voters who are most likely to vote in the midterms are increasingly likely to move to Florida and support the president.
It makes sense that they’re coming to The Villages, because this leisure-class Sun Belt oasis is a lot more pleasant than the dying working-class Rust Belt towns that journalists usually visit on Trump-voter safaris. It feels like a 40-square-mile cruise ship, or a college campus without required classes. It has enough golf courses to play a different one every week of the year, and more than 100 miles of golf cart trails that keep traffic congestion to a minimum. It’s the pickleball capital of America, appropriate considering that the badminton-meets-tennis-ish paddle game has become America’s fastest-growing sport. It has 3,000 clubs that keep 125,000 Villagers busy doing everything from belly dancing to astrology, water aerobics to water skiing, karaoke to quilting. It isn’t exactly luxurious, but it’s comfortable with a median home price above $250,000; though a new POLITICO/AARP poll finds plenty of concern elsewhere in Florida, the only real economic anxiety for most Villagers is the state of their investment portfolios, which are thriving in the Trump era. At a meeting of the Financial Markets and Investment Club in early June, a speaker announced: “NASDAQ just closed at a record high!”
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Stay safe
It sounds like they might be safer where you are especially if they refuse to follow the isolation procedures. Not sure about flights right now though, although I have a friend who is a pilot and flies out of Miami and he is still doing flights and says that the planes are about 1/3 full. Just make sure that they understand that they have to use really good handwashing technique and no face touching and all the rest.
We are from a remote location in upstate NY which would be relatively safe for them. Thank you so much for your concern Soph! I will do everything I can to persuade them to leave. I would be devastated if anything were to happen to them. I just want them out of there.
Don't persuade them. Tell them that this is what is going to happen. Arrange their tickets and tell them to get the hell on the plane. I have to do this with my mother every day. No you are not going to the shop, no you are not going to the pharmacy, someone in the family will pick it up. They can be stubborn old buggers, but they are our old buggers and we want them round for as long as possible. Take control and tell them to get their wrinkly old arses north, right now. Demand it. Command it. And I don't know your parents, but I know my Dad (who is dead now) was the most stubborn of men - but when I did that - in the 2008 crisis about his pension - he did exactly what I said. Of course he then said it was all his own idea 
You need them home safe and sound. Good luck love. I am so pleased I know where my mother is. I feel so sorry about the weight of your worry right now.
I will speak to my siblings to see what we can do. I don't pull a lot of weight on my own, but the four of us together can. I appreciate your kind concern!
Asked if they could get out now. I will keep you posted! Thank you!
Stay safe
