Is anyone else

[barbtries]

looking at local/state/other country sources more than at trump and pence to be informed about the pandemic?

i just watched Cuomo's press conference, and now I'm fixing to watch Manitoba's update. I've also watched Jay Inslee more than once, Los Angeles when they announced the school closings, etc.

I don't trust pence to tell the truth. I'm beginning to have doubts about even the scientists they bring on. their number one is protect trump and fuck the country.

I'm also looking at my county and state pages, WHO's briefings, the Johns Hopkins dashboard. By the way the numbers are never up to date because they move too fast. This is like nothing ever before in my 64 years, nothing even in my parents' lifetimes. My father was born the year after the 1918 flu and my mother in 1925. Both long dead.

I'm talking to my children about it and need to write a will asap, because if i do get it there's a fairly good chance it will kill me. My son works in a grocery store and is going to work as usual. He tells me everything is disappearing before the next truck. I'm hopeful we're well stocked at least until the panic dies down and supplies are more plentiful.

Stay well DU.

[rurallib]

1. My governor is an idiot. I don't trust her any more than Trump

Republican of course.

[barbtries]

4. Our governor is a Democrat

but we have the worst possible majority legislature possible. NC. Mark Meadows, Burr, Tillis - at the state level they all measure down or worse than those 3.

There is an info page and the numbers keep rising daily. Tests almost impossible to get. Lots of fox watchers and apathetic people who think it's all being sensationalized. i hope they get to say i told you so down the road, but the only way that's even possible is if we follow the guidelines now.

[Traildogbob]

59. I feel you

Not only our NC criminal leaders but the ignorance of our population will make NC worse than Italy. Early voted and a middle age husband wife behind discussing, actually she was being giving orders, as republican's to vote Bernie because in their mushy little brains think he will never beat tRump. That is their playbook. Cooper was stripped of power by those fools you just mentioned. Burr at times exhibited a bit of a brain. Meadows is pathetic. Actually cosponsored a bill to shut down Oteen VA hospital, rated one of the best in the country. When I go to VA, 85-90 percent Meadows/tRumpers. All red states will suffer the worst but will vector the pathogen country wide.

[handmade34]

16. I think we might have the most

reasonable Republican Governor... Gov. Scott isn't doing too bad (for an R)

[TwilightZone]

2. I think just about everyone is, outside of the R die-hards.

Well, that's not entirely true. Everyone is looking to rational local/state authorities, which generally means Democratic ones.

[barbtries]

7. I wish you were right about that.

You must not live in the South. lol

There's also a stubborn minority of loud cult members who don't believe anything a Democrat says (hate to say, that's kind of me on the other side! but then republicans have been lying forever so I have valid reasons for my distrust). those people are everywhere. Then there are the apathetic, comfortable people who don't vote, don't pay attention to the news, and don't care. I know my son in CA thinks it's overblown. All I can do is talk to him reasonably. I'm sure he's enjoying being able to get around on the 405 right about now.

[TwilightZone]

45. Yeah, that's why I said outside of the R die-hards.

They're getting their info from Trump and Rush and are unlikely to consider other sources. It'll be interesting to see what happens when they and/or their loved ones get infected because they all rushed out to a crowded restaurant for chicken wings.

Agreed on apathy, as well. There needs to be a middle ground between panic and nonchalance. There seems to be a full supply of both at the moment. Take precautions, understand the concerns, understand the need to flatten the curve, and deal with it best we can.

[barbtries]

47. that is common sense.

sorely lacking these days.

[Throck]

3. I don't see how anything at the national level is useful.

County health has boots on the ground. Local news not network news too.

[barbtries]

9. i do subscribe to the local paper,

but their coverage hasn't been comprehensive enough for me. I look at it every couple days.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Best to ignore Trump and his lackeys altogether. Dr. Fauci seems to be

the only person in the federal government who's trying to tell the truth (and for that reason I expect Trump to sack him before much longer). Anyhow, your governor, mayor, health department and other local officials have information relevant to your location. I'm paying attention to the governor and not at all to Trump.

[barbtries]

10. i'm paying attention to him

not watching him, but looking at the reporting to see just how corrupt his motivation is as he fails miserably to address this crisis. he's infected the federal government so thoroughly.

[PatSeg]

6. Oh, absolutely

I watch Trump to see how badly he can screw up everything, not for information.

[barbtries]

15. I am really distressed

that the under-reporting and lack of testing he's causing will kill people who shouldn't have to die because of him.

[PatSeg]

32. I'm rather amazed

that we've made it through three years without the whole country collapsing until now. I think most of us knew this would happen some day. He was always a disaster just waiting to happen. I'm getting all kinds of post apocalyptic visuals in my head. The damage that one fool can cause is horrifying.

[barbtries]

36. i agree.

i've had pretty much a doomsday scenario brewing in my head since the night of 08Nov2016. it's all almost surreal because I never really believed that this would happen in my lifetime. but the writing is on the wall. As we speak millions of people cannot go to work, won't get paid, may go hungry, will lose their jobs and their homes...it's hard to imagine at this point that the worst part is not still to come.

[PatSeg]

48. I've had post apocalyptic dreams

and they remind me of some of the movies I've seen. Usually, I just take them as symbolic, but now I'm seeing it as a very real possibility.

Like you, I never thought I would see it happen in my lifetime. Watching everything start to unravel, you realize what a delicate balance there is to human society and how quickly it can all collapse. Everything is interconnected, something we often forget.

[gibraltar72]

8. Oh yes

My Guv. Whitmer is trying to keep Michiganders informed. I'm guessing any Dem. Governor and even a couple Rs are using available resources. Mi also has an excellent news site The Bridge that is helpful.

[True Blue American]

43. Mike DeWine,R

Is really on top of everything. I give him full credit.

[gibraltar72]

54. Hate him for so many reasons but I also

am impressed with what he's done for Ohioans.

[True Blue American]

55. Ohio Primary postponed

Until June 2nd.

[lame54]

11. Don't wait for Trump...

He's like a Bond villain doing it on purpose

[malaise]

12. Isn't everyone doing that?

[barbtries]

38. well, Malaise,

Here on DU we have a bunch of people who are better informed and more highly engaged than a huge portion of the population of this once great country. So, I would have to say no.

[malaise]

39. LOL

[MerryBlooms]

13. I'm following Oregon state announcements

and guidelines, along with local info like daily updated closures/cancelled events, etc...

Fed is useless because trump is shit.

[Brainfodder]

14. If this -insert every insult- stays past 1/21/21, I hope the earth implodes?

[barbtries]

18. i guess you're channeling trump?

he would be fine with that.

[Brainfodder]

24. No, I just want the end to the suffering, and we deserve to all die if he's still in charge?

I am real DARK...

There is no way in hell he's re-elected without it being a total sham, I am counting on that, thus I can say this dark shit.



WE SHOULD BE FURIOUS.....

HE HAS PUT US ALL IN DANGER!

If this goes as south as it looks, I'm losing a minimum of 3 in my extended family, and double/triple it wouldn't surprise me.

GOOD LUCK!

[barbtries]

40. wow.

who knows you may get your wish. But the earth will not implode, it's the people who will. civilization basically goes backward. Dystopia.

Most of us are furious, but what we need to remember is that our power rests within us.

If he is re-elected I predict that the people will rise and it will not last. also, he could be dead by then.

[Brainfodder]

41. Not my wish, and yeah all that other stuff that waits, and they still grub for $.

....and yeah as he looks sicker and sicker, so there is that.

[fierywoman]

17. I think Pence's group is only after the money.

[barbtries]

20. i think you're right.

how ironic is it that trump and pence are probably spreading the virus around from CPAC to Mar a Lago. i am surprised that neither has turned up sick yet.

[Brainfodder]

44. Typhoid Trump....

n/t

[42bambi]

28. Pence is nothing but a pathological sycophant. nt

[PA Democrat]

19. Plus Pence spends half his time sucking up to Trump

with all of his vomit-inducing praise.

[barbtries]

22. fortunately

i haven't had to listen to it. i don't listen to him, i just read about it here and on twitter. it's so sick i feel nauseated when i watch it. not just pence either, his entire cult. shudder.

[Newest Reality]

26. Have you ever seen even lovers

stare at someone with such adoring, devoted eyes?

Every time I see Dense behind the Con, it's like cupid is shooting arrows or something. TLA!

[PA Democrat]

29. It reminds me of a cult member staring at their leader.

[barbtries]

52. you're looking at a cult member staring at their leader.

although when it comes to pence i also think you're looking at a feckless power hungry right wing misogynist- scratch that, all around bigot - with delusions of grandeur for himself. he wants to be president too.

[TreasonousBastard]

21. Absolutely. I'm in NY and will listen to Cuomo long before...

any of the Trumpian assholes.

[Ace Rothstein]

23. Definitely feels like the states have taken the lead on this.

And the federal government has just reacted based on what the states are doing.

[barbtries]

25. yep.

he's hollowed out the government so thoroughly. they don't know what the fuck they're doing. to say they're over their heads is probably the most massive understatement ever uttered. aargh

[C_U_L8R]

27. I trust my state and town.

Trump??? Yeah, right. Not if my life depended on it. No fucking way would I trust that guy.

[barbtries]

31. you have a will to live.

that's good, even normal.

interesting times. yes, we are living in interesting times.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

30. In Kentucky, our Democratic governor is doing a great job.

He's doing regular no-bullshit press conferences for TV stations and they have a YouTube channel for that and another for the Dept. of Health. Our metro city (Louisville) government seems to be doing a good job as well.

Our state Dept. of Health has a great web page filled with current infection data, PDF papers on several topics, several videos and links to several key external web sites such as CDC and WHO:

See: https://chfs.ky.gov/agencies/dph/pages/covid19.aspx

I believe we're doing the best we can considering we have a Rethug dominated legislature......

And no, we don't trust tRump even for the right time of day.......

[barbtries]

34. and then you have this guy.

https://www.kentucky.com/news/health-and-medicine/article241200076.html

it does sound as if the health authorities handled it.

I'm in NC and the governor is a Democrat doing his best, but the legislature is majority republican and they are truly terrible. They'll fight tooth and nail to make sure affected people are left homeless, hungry and eventually dead. they will. the worst. there is nothing good i can say about these freaks.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

49. Yes, and Gov. Beshear took care of his sorry ass pretty quick.

Wish you the very best in NC, it's one of my favorite states and the origin of one of the best friends of my life.

NC, KY, and my original home state of TN has suffered from right-wing brainwashing for many decades and the chickens are coming home to roost. Hopefully, at least some of these folks will return to their humanistic, liberal roots as a result of this disaster.

KY..........

[barbtries]

50. i hope so.

since Reagan the dumbing down of America has been so effective. television and advertising are so ubiquitous and it's an escape. and Fox News. don't get me started.

[gldstwmn]

33. CBSN has been great about carrying

live pressers as have my local channels that are live streaming on Roku.

[barbtries]

35. I'm mostly on youtube

and watching pressers from all over the world. plus there is a Channel 4 in the UK that has some lively discussions, interviews with patients who have the virus.

it is global. there's no way to be fully informed. i should probably stop trying. at least limit to a couple hours a day or so. when i can't stomach any more, there's still farming, cooking, and baby videos.

[gldstwmn]

37. I haven't checked out YouTube yet

but would love to see some firsthand accounts as I think I may have already had the virus. I didn't get the pneumonia. I've been isolating for a little over a week now. I will check it out.

[barbtries]

42. why do you think so?

So this is what's really maddening about the incompetence, greed and corruption driving trump's response. If you're not tested by the time your body has cleared it you will never know, your case will not be counted...this could be true for thousands upon thousands of people.

at any rate, I'm glad you didn't get a worst case! and really hope you are able to confirm it at some point. For instance, I think a test may be being developed to identify antibodies to COVID-19, which could confirm that you did have it. It seems I read or saw something along those lines.

[gldstwmn]

46. I actually went to my doctor due to

lack of energy. That went on for about a week and I noticed I had hives, just a few. Then came GI issues. Next chills and not even being able to sit up followed by body aches and fever. After the second day of this I woke up with my pajamas and bed covers drenched but the fever had broken. That night I started to feel feverish again but was able to manage with Advil. The next day I was weak but definitely on the other side of it. In the middle of all this my doctor was suddenly out of the office for over a week. Needless to say I wasn't ever tested for Covid19. Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson came out with their Instagram post a few days later and I realized they had the same symptoms. Initially I thought it was the flu because I wasn't coughing also they just announced that the urgent care that works in tandem with my physician was supposed to start testing today but can't because they didn't get their supplies and now have to wait on the CDC. What Trump is or isn't doing in regards to this pandemic is criminal.

[barbtries]

60. maybe you can find out

why your doctor suddenly left for a week? it's very suspicious and i don't blame you for worrying about it. and i agree, the administration's response has been criminal.
what i don't get is why anyone ever expected a different outcome from trump in the first place. and republicans. bastards.
i hope your recovery holds and very glad it wasn't worse for you. did your dr test you for flu when you first went in? if you knew it wasn't that it would make it that much more likely that it was COVID-19.

[gldstwmn]

63. Thank you. I wasn't sick when I went to

the doctor just had no energy. I didn't get sick until 5 days later. I wasn't tested for the flu but he did mention my allergies were bad. I have no symptoms now and wouldn't dream of going in and trying to get a test now.

[barbtries]

64. no, i don't blame you.

my niece just got tested for it today. won't know for 3 days.

[gldstwmn]

67. I hope it's negative.

God (or your deity of choice) bless.

[barbtries]

69. thank you.

me too

[JustAnotherGen]

51. Yes

I trust Governor Murphy. I do NOT trust MF45.

[Totally Tunsie]

53. We might be the smallest state, but our Democratic state officials

seem to have a good handle on what to do, when. Our governor, Gina Raimondo, has been giving twice daily pressers to keep us informed and up-to-date on changes and restrictions.

I saw a survey last night, I believe on CNN, asking basically the same question you put forth.
The results were something like 78% trusted in their own state government; 72% trust Dr. Fauci and the CDC; and 48% trust Chump. Sounds about right.

[barbtries]

61. i don't know who CNN talks to

honestly. those numbers do not compute.

[Totally Tunsie]

62. I'm not sure, but it may have been designed to rate the level of confidence in each category,

rather than assessing one against the other.

Someone could trust their State government about 78%, trust Fauci and the CDC about 72%, and only trust Chump 48%.

Think of it like a kitchen canister set: One canister is filled 78% with coffee, another is filled 72% with sugar, and the third is filled 48% with flour.

[yaesu]

56. yep, the Federal government is null & void, feel sorry for those in red states

20,708.12 ?2,477.50 (10.69%)

[Proud Liberal Dem]

57. My Governor is Republican and my Mayor is a Democrat (Indiana/Indianapolis)

Both of them seem to be handling it responsibly from what I've witnessed. Feel more comforted by them than anybody on the Federal level, except for Dr. Fauci

[PaulRevere08]

58. Same - I don't trust any of the numbers coming out of the federal agencies.

I have also found this site to be informative:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR3-G4T5pDSB2XOLmjEgLY1yfpaur-KJTrrueNuepL-BA0oG3oCzdWZU_tU

On the bright side, your grandmother survived 1918 and it was still going in 1919 when your father was born (as my mother) so you may have good pandemic survival genes.

[barbtries]

66. on the other other hand,

2 great uncles did not survive in 1918. They were soldiers in WWI and my mother always said they died of dysentery, but after watching a documentary on the 1918 pandemic I tend to believe it was that.

[Iggo]

65. I read the L.A. Times yesterday for the first time in yeeeeeers.

I don't care what the buffoon has to say.
I've never cared what the buffoon has to say.

[BeckyDem]

68. You too, barbtries. These are tough times, very tough.

[barbtries]

70. thanks BeckyDem.

it only dawned on my yesterday that my last trip out might be my last trip out for a very long time.
still gotta walk the dogs though.

[BeckyDem]

71. I'm a senior and do the best I can too.

That's all we can do at this point.

[barbtries]

72. all we can ever do really.

unless we're donald trump.

[GoCubsGo]

73. Nope. I liive in South Carolina.

The Governor is a Trump bootlicker. The local government is full of GOPers. All of them just as dumb and unprepared as Dear Leader.