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Miguelito Loveless

(4,438 posts)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:29 PM Mar 2020

I am just going to come out and say it

After two decades of listening to the Religiously Insane blame us for everything that has gone wrong:

This is God punishing Conservatives for voting in Trump.

This is God punishing Conservatives for their racism and bigotry.

This is God punishing Conservatives for turning their backs on the poor and the sick.

This is God punishing Conservatives for gunning down our children.

This is God punishing Conservatives for ignoring the homeless.

This is God punishing Conservatives for worshiping celebrities and sports figures.

This is God punishing Conservatives for loving money more than their neighbors.

This is God punishing Conservatives for following false prophets (Jim Baker, Pat Robertson, Paula White, Jerry Falwell, et al)

This is God punishing Conservatives for poisoning the planet.

This is God punishing Conservatives for our unjust judicial system.

This is God punishing Conservatives for our inhumane prisons.

This is God punishing Conservatives for lying to ourselves about reality.

This is God punishing Conservatives for twisting Her word to justify their own hatred.

A Hell hotter than the core of a supernova awaits those who have sinned in this manner against God, and their souls shall burn in everlasting torment.

Feel free to express this view to any Conservative you know, especially fundagelicals, extremist Catholics, or Mormons.

(By the way, I am an atheist and don't believe any of this supernatural nonsense. But you know, I am sick of hearing people who are hypocrites to their own superstitious dogma).

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I am just going to come out and say it (Original Post) Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 OP
excellent gopiscrap Mar 2020 #1
K&R ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #2
What does "K&R" mean? Jeebo Mar 2020 #3
Kick & Recommended ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #5
Kick and Recommend alittlelark Mar 2020 #6
I'd link you to DU's old glossary page, but it's apparently disappeared through the archives zone ancianita Mar 2020 #42
K&R redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #4
Another list, re Republicons owning this crisis by owning Donny Six Words Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #7
+1 pandr32 Mar 2020 #10
Yep. They cover his ass, carry his water, and coddle his ego. n/t Beartracks Mar 2020 #33
I agree , but how does that old saying go? packman Mar 2020 #8
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2020 #9
I always think of BigOleDummy Mar 2020 #11
Didn't realize that was originally from Taxi Driver happybird Mar 2020 #40
One of my favorite bands.... even to this day BigOleDummy Mar 2020 #47
Covid 19 has no political affiliation nor does God srose58089 Mar 2020 #13
My point is not that this is a logical supposition Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #22
And of course you are correct. And we all know it. soldierant Mar 2020 #56
Well, kind of the reason I am an atheist Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #15
From the Bible: Matthew 5:45 efhmc Mar 2020 #48
LOL. How appropriate for this thread. wnylib Mar 2020 #49
The Religiously Insane are self righteous. erlewyne Mar 2020 #12
The virus doesn't discriminate IronLionZion Mar 2020 #14
Well, at least there is a karmic justice there Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #17
I have heard that too that old people are being punished. But... totodeinhere Mar 2020 #21
I suspect that there are many wnylib Mar 2020 #52
Won't they be unpleasantly surprised when it hits them hardest Generic Brad Mar 2020 #31
Yes it does, it rewards hermits bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #51
Well, if the conservatives can use God like that. gembaby1 Mar 2020 #16
My point exactly. Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #23
But this virus does not discriminate. It is an equal opportunity killer. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #18
My point is turning their own reasoning on them Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #24
Just asking for "a friend" but if both Trump and Pence are unable to continue in their jobs .... Botany Mar 2020 #19
Yep, though McConnellCo Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #25
Agree 100%! Different Drummer Mar 2020 #20
The last of the OG Mad Scientists Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #26
May I steal this?? gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #27
By all means Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #45
As an atheist, I'll just do "Karma doing its work." no_hypocrisy Mar 2020 #28
Where is Brian Griffin when you need him? Initech Mar 2020 #29
K&R ck4829 Mar 2020 #30
When immediate families start dying at home...... gordianot Mar 2020 #32
By then, won't they have been told/convinced by RW radio that it's all Obama's fault? Beartracks Mar 2020 #34
Ezekiel 25:17 Traildogbob Mar 2020 #35
This Buddhist says Doreen Mar 2020 #36
K&R demigoddess Mar 2020 #37
... happybird Mar 2020 #38
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2020 #39
Amen jpak Mar 2020 #41
Pretty ugly rant mountain grammy Mar 2020 #43
Why did God send Donald Trump to be President? VladmireTrumpkins Mar 2020 #44
God is punishing them because she can alfredo Mar 2020 #46
A bit big for a t-shirt? Brainfodder Mar 2020 #50
My thoughts and prayers are with them. blue-wave Mar 2020 #53
Hear, hear!! Missn-Hitch Mar 2020 #54
K&R Cetacea Mar 2020 #55
🔥 Flame bait 🔥 nt live love laugh Mar 2020 #57
Why is this "flame bait"? Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #61
Brilliant Perseus Mar 2020 #58
Also sowing mistrust of government while systematically meadowlander Mar 2020 #59
Well, "God" is force-feeding EVERYONE the same shit sandwich. VOX Mar 2020 #60
Amen Joinfortmill Mar 2020 #62
They like to remind us now.. Permanut Mar 2020 #63
Funny that... Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #64
Then how comes most people are dying in Washington state robbedvoter Mar 2020 #65
My "God"? Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #67
Thank you! mdbl Mar 2020 #66

Jeebo

(2,005 posts)
3. What does "K&R" mean?
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:35 PM
Mar 2020

I see it all the time on these boards and still have no idea what it means.

-- Ron

ProfessorGAC

(64,427 posts)
5. Kick & Recommended
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:38 PM
Mar 2020

There's a little click spot in lower left of the original post. If you click it, you're recommending the thread.
Kicking is just posting a reply to get the thread up the list by having a more recent post.
Hope that helps.

ancianita

(35,816 posts)
42. I'd link you to DU's old glossary page, but it's apparently disappeared through the archives zone
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:05 PM
Mar 2020

and out the 404 Not Found door.

Guess we don't have it anymore.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,790 posts)
7. Another list, re Republicons owning this crisis by owning Donny Six Words
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:46 PM
Mar 2020

Trump-Republicons own this crisis

Republicons plowed the ground for tRump
Republicons seeded the ground with trumpanzees
Republicons created tRump as a Republ Icon in 2015-16
Republicons elected tRump candidate
Republicons endorsed tRump
Republicons voted for tRump
Republicons enable tRump
Republicons defend tRump
Republicons lie for tRump
Republicons protect tRump

Trump-Republicons own this.

BigOleDummy

(2,260 posts)
11. I always think of
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:05 PM
Mar 2020

.. the intro monologue from Taxi Driver..... "someday a real rain is going to fall, wash all the scum from the streets"

BigOleDummy

(2,260 posts)
47. One of my favorite bands.... even to this day
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:19 PM
Mar 2020

But the "real rain....." was the voiceover opening of Taxi Driver. And THAT'S still one of my favorite movies *blush*

srose58089

(214 posts)
13. Covid 19 has no political affiliation nor does God
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:10 PM
Mar 2020

I agree with this thread but I believe Covid 19 will "punish" all regardless of political affiliation or beliefs.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,438 posts)
22. My point is not that this is a logical supposition
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:26 PM
Mar 2020

Quite the opposite. However having endured these diatribes from Conservatives about “God’s punishment of Liberals”, sauce for the gander.

soldierant

(6,648 posts)
56. And of course you are correct. And we all know it.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:28 PM
Mar 2020

But the point is, the people OP is speaking about - and to - think in these terms. This language may not get the message through to them. But, if it doesn't, then what will?

And on a more practical level, COVID-19 may well hit them harder than it does us. Because we have scientific knowledge to help us get through, knowledge which they respect. That's like us having an umbrella that they can't, and won't, steal.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
49. LOL. How appropriate for this thread.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:22 PM
Mar 2020

That "old saying" is Biblical, from the book of Ecclesiastes.

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
12. The Religiously Insane are self righteous.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:08 PM
Mar 2020

They do not care for anybody else. To them, their shit don't stink
and they spend their lives smelling it.

IronLionZion

(45,266 posts)
14. The virus doesn't discriminate
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:19 PM
Mar 2020

but it can be used to troll conservatives

There are young people who think this is sent to punish old people for destroying the planet

Miguelito Loveless

(4,438 posts)
17. Well, at least there is a karmic justice there
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:21 PM
Mar 2020

Bit of a bummer for those of us who have been trying to clean things up and vote out the scoundrels.

totodeinhere

(13,037 posts)
21. I have heard that too that old people are being punished. But...
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:25 PM
Mar 2020

not only old people are suffering from this. Younger people will suffer when they lose their jobs because of a recession caused by the pandemic. And younger children will suffer when their parents lose their jobs and don't have money to pay the rent or buy groceries.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
52. I suspect that there are many
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:52 PM
Mar 2020

who consider the vulnerability of seniors to be a blessing. Less seniors, less Social Security and Medicare payouts. Cut the budget.

Say what you will about religion and your own beliefs or non belief. But, since this thread is about religion, I am a member of a church (not evangelical fundies). I agree with the point the OP makes. Here is my recent experience.

Yesterday, I received an email from the pastor sent to all members, outlining all cancellations and changes due to covid. There are many seniors in the congregation. He went on to reassure people who decide, for their safety, not to attend the weekly service, even with changes, that they are still part of the group. They should call the church if they need anything to help get through the health crisis. That was followed by a request to "members with resources" to contact the church about their availability to respond to calls for help. The email ended with, "You are not alone."

Generic Brad

(14,270 posts)
31. Won't they be unpleasantly surprised when it hits them hardest
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:36 PM
Mar 2020

This country has become the haves and the have nots. Italy may have decided to tend to the young who have the highest chance of recovery and not treat the elderly. But it will be different here. The uninsured will be the ones left to perish, I am afraid.

bucolic_frolic

(42,679 posts)
51. Yes it does, it rewards hermits
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:36 PM
Mar 2020

and while it may seem just that the high and mighty will also participate, this line of thought sounds an awful lot like Fundamentalists who believe AIDS is God punishing gays. Accepting hate is to become just like them.

totodeinhere

(13,037 posts)
18. But this virus does not discriminate. It is an equal opportunity killer.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:22 PM
Mar 2020

So I don't understand how this could be God punishing conservatives when liberals are as susceptible to the virus as conservatives are.

Disclaimer - I don't believe in God either. If there were a God why would God allow such suffering on the part of innocent people?

Miguelito Loveless

(4,438 posts)
24. My point is turning their own reasoning on them
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:29 PM
Mar 2020

To Conservatives this is unthinkable and will raise their blood pressure, to Liberals it is an amusing way of trolling these idiots.

Botany

(70,292 posts)
19. Just asking for "a friend" but if both Trump and Pence are unable to continue in their jobs ....
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:22 PM
Mar 2020

.... because they got C-19 wouldn't Nancy Pelosi become President?

And would that not also prove the existence of a just God too?

Miguelito Loveless

(4,438 posts)
26. The last of the OG Mad Scientists
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:33 PM
Mar 2020

And I am tempted to claim all of this is punishment for the 1999 version of WWW.

gordianot

(15,226 posts)
32. When immediate families start dying at home......
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:37 PM
Mar 2020

I expect the fundies to take up public stoning. They have consistently rejected the message they claim to worship.

meadowlander

(4,358 posts)
59. Also sowing mistrust of government while systematically
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 08:58 PM
Mar 2020

defunding and dismantling its capabilities to deal with a crisis like this.

Enjoy your Covid-19, Grover!

If there actually was a God, Paul Ryan would be Patient 0.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
60. Well, "God" is force-feeding EVERYONE the same shit sandwich.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:15 PM
Mar 2020

So, as the early, funny Woody Allen famously said: “If it turns out that there is a God, I don't think that he's evil. But the worst that you can say about him is that basically he's an underachiever.”

But I hear you.

Permanut

(5,439 posts)
63. They like to remind us now..
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:08 PM
Mar 2020

about Romans 13:1 "The authorities that exist have been established by God." Although they kinda forgot about that part when President Obama was in office, and during the tenure of Presidents Carter and Clinton.

robbedvoter

(28,290 posts)
65. Then how comes most people are dying in Washington state
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:36 AM
Mar 2020

and most sick are in cities? Your God as terrible aim.




I had heard this in versions "old people were mean to the planet and now they get theirs" It's stupid. And sociopathic.
PS. I don't disagree with anything you said about the conservatives. Just the "punishment" thinghie. You sound like them.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,438 posts)
67. My "God"?
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:36 PM
Mar 2020

Did you miss the part at the end where I explain I am an atheist mocking Christian Conservatives?

How can you be punished by someone who does not exist?

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