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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 03:55 PM Mar 2020

🔥 🔥 Lots of info in those new *Muller documents* just released. 🔥 🔥

Last edited Tue Mar 3, 2020, 06:35 PM - Edit history (1)

You may want to pull up a chair and pour a cup of Joe. I'm not even going to try to recreate this thread.

<NEW MUELLER 302 THREAD>

There is so much in 600 pages that I'm just gonna start firing.

First up: Jeff Sessions old partner Richard Burt flipped. 🔥





Update:

FOIA released documents here: https://buzzfeed.egnyte.com/dl/gbuL8jn18Z/

Unrolled thread here: https://threader.app/thread/1234688762690592768
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🔥 🔥 Lots of info in those new *Muller documents* just released. 🔥 🔥 (Original Post) MelissaB Mar 2020 OP
Nothing like *evidence* being released AFTER a trial!1 UTUSN Mar 2020 #1
idk... to me, releasing it in the year of an election seems okay renate Mar 2020 #16
Also in the middle of Super Tuesday PatSeg Mar 2020 #35
I'm going to pull out a few tweets starting with this one about Rick Gates. MelissaB Mar 2020 #2
Gates, Nadar, and those small donations & Manafort and Pence MelissaB Mar 2020 #3
Chris Christie got shanked because he was handing out Ambassadorships early MelissaB Mar 2020 #4
GATES USED WHATSAPP TO SEND TRUMP POLLING DATA TO RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE MelissaB Mar 2020 #5
That polling date was used to guide Mike Pence's appearances. MelissaB Mar 2020 #6
Wonder if any of this will link to the Spectrum/Alfa Bank data dumps going thru Trump org servers... Roland99 Mar 2020 #12
Yes, I've wondered about that for a LONG time..... groundloop Mar 2020 #28
I'm not going to post any more because it will make this thread hard to read, but know there is MelissaB Mar 2020 #8
Recommended, and thank you. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #7
You're welcome! MelissaB Mar 2020 #9
That is a low estimate...IMO. Moostache Mar 2020 #14
I respect that argument. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #19
The exit polls in last hour are full of voters deciding who to vote for in the last few days. empedocles Mar 2020 #33
I think, and hope, that DU readers and writers recognize that we do follow guillaumeb Mar 2020 #36
Kick and recommend superpatriotman Mar 2020 #10
Kick & recommended. William769 Mar 2020 #11
How will this change anything? merrifield Mar 2020 #13
Mueller did not blow it, he simply accepted the fact that he was a stooge and went quietly. Moostache Mar 2020 #15
Mueller built a strong base of evidence that continues to be used extensively. empedocles Mar 2020 #32
Thank you for this post. Got this bookmarked to start reading the details. nt iluvtennis Mar 2020 #17
Threadreader link? hurple Mar 2020 #18
He was still building the thread when I posted it. MelissaB Mar 2020 #22
I believe this is the link you're looking for: MelissaB Mar 2020 #24
Highly recommended democrank Mar 2020 #20
Where is the link to the report Perseus Mar 2020 #21
I think this is the link you're looking for. MelissaB Mar 2020 #26
Anybody have a direct link to the documents? SansACause Mar 2020 #23
Here MelissaB Mar 2020 #27
Thank you. SansACause Mar 2020 #31
K & R for truth n/t malaise Mar 2020 #25
Holy moley - thanks (nt) klook Mar 2020 #29
Recommend lunatica Mar 2020 #30
Thank you empedocles Mar 2020 #34
"Project A" code for secure Trump-Moscow comlink. Kid Berwyn Mar 2020 #37
Thanks MelissaB spanone Mar 2020 #38
Unfortunately most Americans will not hear any of this I'm afraid. triron Mar 2020 #39
Kick burrowowl Mar 2020 #40
I look forward to getting all the way through this most recent release liberalla Mar 2020 #41
knr triron Mar 2020 #42

renate

(13,776 posts)
16. idk... to me, releasing it in the year of an election seems okay
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 05:35 PM
Mar 2020

Mueller was never going to make the decision to go to trial himself, and Trump was never ever going to be removed as long as the Senate is controlled by McConnell.

So for this evidence to come out now, in my opinion, kind of refreshes the whole report and makes it fresh and new; talking about it won't be rehashing old news for the zillionth time like the GOP is always doing to Hillary and her emails, or Biden and his son's business dealings.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
2. I'm going to pull out a few tweets starting with this one about Rick Gates.
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 04:08 PM
Mar 2020
Most of the new Mueller 302s are from Manafort partner Rick Gates *voluminous* proffers. Remember, he only got 45 days of *weekend prison*.

Because as he told the FBI, Manafort worked with Russian intelligence THROUGHOUT THE 2016 CAMPAIGN. Because they were essential.



MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
3. Gates, Nadar, and those small donations & Manafort and Pence
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 04:13 PM
Mar 2020


Oh, look! Mike Pence wanted to keep in touch with Manafort, the Russian agent who chose him for Vice President!

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
12. Wonder if any of this will link to the Spectrum/Alfa Bank data dumps going thru Trump org servers...
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 05:16 PM
Mar 2020

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
8. I'm not going to post any more because it will make this thread hard to read, but know there is
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 04:21 PM
Mar 2020

a LOT more there.

Examples

1. Manafort worked with Hannity on the Devin Nunes coverup of treason

2. MAGGIE HABERMAN was MICHAEL COHEN'S MEDIA CONTACT. (Yes, nothing says access journalism and Pulitzer Prize like cultivating the Russian Mob for juicy updates on what Genovese crime family fronts are up to. SCOOP!)

3. There are some new names in this batch of Mueller 302s: Josh RAFFEL, who ran PR for Jared and Ivanka.

4. Jared Kushner's exec assistant Catherine Vargas: new name, almost all redacted.

5. There is also quite a bit of info about Ted Devine who was Bernie's manager.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
7. Recommended, and thank you.
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 04:20 PM
Mar 2020

The real problem is that 38-40% of the US population lives in a fact free universe.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
14. That is a low estimate...IMO.
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 05:30 PM
Mar 2020

38-40% are what I consider to be hard core Trumpers - a mishmash of Birthers, Tea Party Racists, zealot Republicans and conservatives more interested in their personal wealth and taxes than anything else in the world...

But there are also 10-15% of the population who are neither right nor left, neither alive or dead...the great "centrist / undecided" voters...and these people tend to be the ones living off of information from social media or 'gut feelings' like who they would rather have a beer with instead of nuanced policy positions or geopolitical views. These people are just as fact free as the rest...

And I have to be honest, there are a good number of people on the left who also tend to be fact-free. This grouping is a far smaller one, but even if its 2-5% of Democrats, it pushes the numbers of fact-free voters into the majority of the country with ease. And the media is all too happy to play to the lowest common denominator crowd regardless.

So many people are utterly fact-free or confused easily because it is actual WORK to remain informed and aware of issues and consequences of policy beyond the 12 second sound bites and 12 minute talking head shouting matches that masquerade as journalism on the TV box...

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
19. I respect that argument.
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 05:37 PM
Mar 2020

And to that point, studies and polls show that many voters pay no attention to politics prior to Labor Day.

And the US corporate owned media plays a part as well. There is far more coverage of murders, fires, and crashes than of anything else.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
33. The exit polls in last hour are full of voters deciding who to vote for in the last few days.
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 06:41 PM
Mar 2020

Seen 34% to 48%. They are voting. Probably shocking to the DU enthusiasts.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
36. I think, and hope, that DU readers and writers recognize that we do follow
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 08:24 PM
Mar 2020

politics very closely, and perhaps far more closely than the average voter.

merrifield

(73 posts)
13. How will this change anything?
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 05:24 PM
Mar 2020

Mueller had his chance and blew it. How will this information make any difference at all?

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
15. Mueller did not blow it, he simply accepted the fact that he was a stooge and went quietly.
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 05:32 PM
Mar 2020

His report was damning and his conclusions DID NOT EXONERATE Trump in any sense. Even if they had used his work as the basis for additional articles of Impeachment, the GOP Senate made it abundantly clear that they killed the rule of law and Trump is going to skate for any and everything he did and will do.

Mueller did the job, he did not bother with selling the conclusions because he knew from the inside that the outcome was never in real doubt and that McConnell was going to see to it come hell or high water.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
32. Mueller built a strong base of evidence that continues to be used extensively.
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 06:38 PM
Mar 2020

People like Mueller, Pelosi, Warner and Burt, etc. have understood for a long time how this process was going to unfold over a long period of time.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
22. He was still building the thread when I posted it.
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 05:50 PM
Mar 2020

He started it Yesterday!

Yeah, it's that long...

SansACause

(520 posts)
31. Thank you.
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 06:29 PM
Mar 2020

It's so heavily redacted that it's hard to follow, but it's clear there was a lot more to the Mueller investigation that nobody ever heard about.

liberalla

(9,227 posts)
41. I look forward to getting all the way through this most recent release
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:08 AM
Mar 2020

of documents... but Super Tuesday has been distracting me!

Thank you for adding the threadreader link!

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