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Paper ballots? (Original Post) Odoreida Feb 2020 OP
paper ballots everywhere ... Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #1
+1 n/t Odoreida Feb 2020 #3
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Hermit-The-Prog

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1. paper ballots everywhere ...
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 04:24 PM
Feb 2020

We don't have an election on November 3, 2020; we have many elections all across the country. This eliminates a single point of failure. Electronic voting provides Putin, the GOP, or anyone with bad intent, with a means of manipulating the results without having to physically be at the site.

We need physical tokens, a.k.a., paper ballots, if for no other reason than to force the bad guys to be physically present to attempt their dirty deeds.

With paper ballots (physical tokens):

* Paper ballots allow the voter to verify that the ballot represents the voter's vote.

* The general public can verify that the voter cast a ballot, without having to know the vote.

* The general public can verify that the paper ballots are not tampered with while waiting to be counted.

* The general public can observe and verify the count of the ballots.

In electronic voting (abstractions, not physical tokens):

- The voter cannot verify that the internal state of the device represents the voter's vote. (This is true no matter how many pre-election or post-election tests are performed on the device).

- The general public cannot observe or verify that the voter cast a ballot. (The electorate has a critical, prime responsibility to observe and verify this).

- The general public cannot observe or verify the (abstract, invisible, electronic) ballots are true to the forms (state) they were in when cast.

- The general public cannot observe or verify the (invisible, electronic) count of the (abstract, invisible, electronic) ballots.

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