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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/30/20 THREAD 5****
Thread 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212928625
Thread 2 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212929057
Thread 3 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212929614
Thread 4 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212930044
BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)Schiff discussing their proposal... Trust the Chief Justice to make a fair judgement of materiality of a witness.
underpants
(183,060 posts)Deference to him over the Warren slight earlier today.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)gademocrat7
(10,690 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)underpants
(183,060 posts)After the questions are over.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)underpants
(183,060 posts)If she doesn't go with him it could be a tie.
Mersky
(4,986 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)The Prosecutor was corrupt. The sham was that Biden followed U.S. policy and European countries.
This is all Russian intelligence propaganda.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)Schiff telling them what is on the line when senators feed into the Burisma CT smears.
Turbineguy
(37,423 posts)Russia's biggest intel operation ever.
The Republicans are trying to save it.
Mersky
(4,986 posts)crickets
(25,995 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)Schiff is so good like that!
BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)Bolton and Barr - the President as asked for personal favors - e.g., Trump Towers Istanbul. Plus issues with the Turkish State Bank.
Mersky
(4,986 posts)pResidents counsel has argued that the pResidents actions are based on his desire to root out corruption. However, new reporting indicates that barr and former national security adviser Bolton, shared concerns that the pResident was granting personal favors to autocratic leaders like the pResident of Turkey. The pResident has also acknowledged his private business interest in the country like tRump towers in Istanbul. The treasury dept has not denied that the pResident directed Treasury and DOJ to intervene in the criminal investigation of the Turkish state owned bank, which has been accused of a scheme to evade Iranian sanctions. Has the pResident engaged in a pattern of conduct which he places his personal and political interests above the national security interest of the United States?
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Taken from CSPAN transcript here: (will post when video link is available from 06:47:40)
BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)but it was also putting that whole thing into the Congressional record!!!!
Mersky
(4,986 posts)https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-11/u-s-inquiry-into-turkish-bank-inflamed-erdogan-then-went-quiet
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Lol, now I understand the political cartoon from today depicting tRump as turkey - wasnt just leftover from Thanksgiving.
crickets
(25,995 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)LEW
(1,072 posts)what time does the questioning end tonight?
BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)and they have had about 1.5 hours or so of a break so far. From 1pm ET + 8hrs (no break) would be 9 pm ET so figure maybe by 10 pm ET? (as I understand there were a set amount of questions initially so they had less to go through today than yesterday)
LEW
(1,072 posts)underpants
(183,060 posts)From when the started after the dinner break.
CNN says Lamar Alexander (R-TN) will announce his decision on witnesses after the questions. He had dinner with Murkowski.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)of regarding Ukraine until this year...
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)and local PBS just interrupted for Judy Woodruff's face time
underpants
(183,060 posts)We know what we are listening to.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)underpants
(183,060 posts)I have this set as a station I know what the hell it is.
BeyondGeography
(39,399 posts)Oy.
BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)And when Kupperman was subpoenaed, he immediately filed suit. Did not want to go through a years-long process.
Offered that they could have piggybacked on McGahn case and they said no.
underpants
(183,060 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)including when you have a President trying to bully and threaten impeachment witnesses?
BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)intelligence whistleblowers. The former can go public and have a press conference where the latter - the intelligence ones - cannot go public.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)going to foreign countries?
underpants
(183,060 posts)Romney - seems + witnesses
Collins -......well... you know I'm concerned. Not counting on her
Alexander - announcing on witnesses when the questions are done
Murkowski
Here's the key. MANCHIN. He can save himself with a NO on witnesses. Don't be surprised if he kills it regardless of the Republicans.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)Thanks for posting!
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)underpants
(183,060 posts)I thank my Uncle for some of this. That's all I can say.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)(ignoring that Dershowitz and Graham completely CHANGED their "standards" from Clinton to Drumpf)
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)crickets
(25,995 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)from Israel if the PM didn't come to the U.S. to charge the President's rival with anti-semitism?
underpants
(183,060 posts)H2O Man
(73,715 posts)MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)underpants
(183,060 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)H2O Man
(73,715 posts)(Sorry, just talking to myself about wishing Roberts would jump down and slap Philbin.)
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)H2O Man
(73,715 posts)pne of two things has happen: Philbin has been replaced by a robot, or has died, his corpse freeze-dried, and a tape recorder placed in his mouth.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)H2O Man
(73,715 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)underpants
(183,060 posts)MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)As outstandingly awful as he has been throughout this session,
his whole face should be on an infinite loop of
PatSeg
(47,774 posts)one who noticed his red nose!
BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)Why can't Bolton be called in as a witness?
underpants
(183,060 posts)underpants
(183,060 posts)His face is getting redder.
BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)since I think it was the D's turn for questioning.
(I think she was sortof with Collins to possibly call for witnesses)
underpants
(183,060 posts)Mossfern
(2,617 posts)"We won't call them because they didn't."
He is so disingenuous, it's amazing.
BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)autocratic leader and that not being impeachable.
BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)Wasn't our party - it was the President who denied access to witnesses/docs.
crickets
(25,995 posts)He insulted Schiff and is starting to get openly nasty, not just condescending. Also noticing the red face. Hmm.
MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)Rut roh.
Does somebody on the repuke side already know
there's enough votes FOR having witnesses???
Maybe Alexander and Murkowski gave a tell.
Let this be more than my desperate wishful thinking.
crickets
(25,995 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)his interest in Burisma for his removal... <insert CT>
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)crickets
(25,995 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)underpants
(183,060 posts)That's where all this Biden nonsense comes from. Turtle is in it too.
BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)and legislative?
BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)So not an answer. <talking points talking points>
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)BumRushDaShow
(130,137 posts)Mersky
(4,986 posts)Acquit his client.
Bleh. Hes just terrible.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,596 posts)crickets
(25,995 posts)Trump can ignore his advisors all he likes. He was not impeached for that, he was impeached for breaking the law. Notes pattern of misconduct also present in Mueller report.
elleng
(131,457 posts)Mossfern
(2,617 posts)and then argues another.
Both sides.
C_U_L8R
(45,047 posts)There seems to be something pathologically disturbing about this guy. Does he live in Bates Motel?