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dem4decades

(11,269 posts)
1. You're confident the election won't be fucked with?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:31 PM
Jan 2020

Voter suppression, election interference and foreign interference?

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
2. It is 50 different elections... each run by the individual states
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:35 PM
Jan 2020

That's what makes it harder to tamper with.


And states like Colorado (Gardner), Maine (Collins), Arizona (McSally), etc. have shown in recent years that their elections have been pretty tamper-free.

PandoraAwakened

(905 posts)
11. I didn't read the previous poster's comments as somehow discouraging others to not vote.
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 07:56 PM
Jan 2020

To the contrary, I see the poster's comments as a wake-up call akin to FBI Director Christopher Wray's wake-up call, which he keeps shouting from the rooftops, BTW, along with every other intelligence agency with insight on the matter.

You mentioned Arizona. I'm in Arizona. Wanna know what happened to me here in 2016---someone who has been a registered, voting Democrat their entire life? MY NAME WAS ELECTRONICALLY PURGED from the voter rolls.

If I hadn't shown up to vote in the Democratic Primary (in which I was disallowed my right to vote because of the electronic manipulation of voter registration databases here), I would not have found out about it until I showed up for the General Election!

It's a sad fact that the number of voters who show up for a primary election is but a woeful percentage of those who come out for the general election. By being a member of that smaller percentage who always votes in primaries, I was able to find out in time that I'd been purged---at least in enough time to "re-register," allowing me to still have a voice in the general.

Do you have any clue as to the millions of Americans, this has happened to and is continuing to happen to right now, even as we speak?

Do you even realize that without the purge, Arizona's Electoral College votes would have gone to Hillary back in 2016? Are you not aware that the FBI did indicate that AZ's voter registration database was, indeed, breached?

Are you not aware of the number of persons who showed up to vote in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, only to discover they'd been ELECTRONICALLY PURGED from the state voter rolls? Hint: The figure is exponentially higher than the 77,744 votes across those three states that illegally granted an Electoral College win to tRump.

IT DOESN'T REQUIRE MANIPULATION TO OCCUR IN ALL 50 STATES TO THROW AN ELECTORAL COLLEGE WIN. It only requires manipulation in a relatively small number of counties critical to determining Electoral College vote tallies.

IT DOESN'T REQUIRE MANIPULATION OF ACTUAL VOTES CAST AT THE BALLOT BOX. It only requires manipulation of voter registration databases prior to the election.

IT DOESN'T REQUIRE OVER-THE-TOP MANIPULATION. It only requires just enough to push the vote count in any given swing state to barely over the line so as to comply with that state's laws preventing recounts or further investigation into what has occurred within its databases.

So everyone, please, please, please quit parroting the Rethuglican propaganda snicker that says "Nothing to worry about here because we have 50 separate systems (hee, hee, hee)."

Parroting that line only prevents yourself and others from doing something NOW about what is actually occurring---and doing so BEFORE the 2020 general election.

Quit giving Rethuglicans air cover by accusing fellow Democrats of discouraging others to vote when they speak up and speak out about the very real voter suppression tactics being used against us...AGAIN.

If anyone is uninformed about any aspect of what has been brought up in this regard, I would recommend that a good place you can start educating yourself is by checking out what is being exposed nationwide by Stacey Abrams and her Fair Fight organization. Check out what renowned investigative journalist Greg Palast is doing with ground-breaking software to expose the extent of the purge.

Once you're clear about what is actually going down, then ask yourself whether it's more important to start telling everyone you know that they need to confirm their voter registrations now and periodically all the way up to voting, or whether it's more important to shush-shush anyone bringing this up.

Then get back to me about which of these two courses of action you think is actually going to be the "self-fulfilling" one...


NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
15. Dems picked up 40 seats in the House
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:14 PM
Jan 2020

and only lost 2 seats in the Senate despite facing what the media said was a good economy and the worst map in Senate history - despite Russian interference

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. The Rethugs are going to go
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:42 PM
Jan 2020

flat out take no prisoners campaign starting next Wednesday,watch and see. Going to try and intimate every single voter.

 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
14. Won't matter. He will have a license to cheat in any election.
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:11 PM
Jan 2020

It's over because the United States Senate Republicans are anointing a dictator for life

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
16. But,come November will they
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:15 PM
Jan 2020

Vote these Criminals out? My Guess is,the Campaign Season will kick off next week following the Dictator's wailing against the Crooked Dems Tuesday night,with a National Dems are Criminal Campaign Road Show Wednesday morning.

Kingofalldems

(38,422 posts)
8. GOP in a world of shit it seems.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:52 PM
Jan 2020

If they do call Bolton the entire world will see Trump's guilt and they will be under pressure to convict.

 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
13. The Q poll is not taking into account the fact that election cheating will be completely legal.
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:08 PM
Jan 2020

Once acquitted, Trump will have a license to cheat openly. Every seat in 2020 will go to the Republican. The House will become overwhelmingly Republican. Acquittal will mean it is over.

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