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SunSeeker

(51,508 posts)
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 11:00 PM Jan 2020

Susan Collins becomes the Joe Wilson of the Impeachment Trial.

Like Joe Wilson, who screamed (incorrectly) "You lie!" at President Obama when Obama said the ACA would not cover undocumented immigrants, Susan Collins broke decorum and Impeachment Trial rules by shouting from the floor "Not true" several times as Adam Schiff relayed a story he had heard that Trump threatened Senators that if they voted against the President their "head" would end up "on a pike."

Of course, she has no way of knowing if Trump did indeed issue such a warning, so has no basis to yell "not true." And of course there is nothing untrue about Schiff relaying a report he had heard. She broke decorum to yell a lie, like Joe Wilson.

And that's after she passed a note to Roberts to complain that Nadler used the word, "liar," and got Roberts to issue an admonishment about maintaining decorum.

Collins can hardly call call herself a moderate if she has stepped into Joe Wilson's shoes.

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Takket

(21,528 posts)
9. how did Roberts punish her for the outburst? since the rules forbid that......
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 11:31 PM
Jan 2020

let me guess... nothing.

SunSeeker

(51,508 posts)
15. He ignored it, even though senators were warned if they spoke out they would be imprisoned.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 11:45 PM
Jan 2020

How much you wanna bet Roberts would have gone after any Dem who spoke out from the floor?

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Tech

(1,769 posts)
10. She had a long talk with trump
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 11:35 PM
Jan 2020

and after much contemplation she is confident in his answer that he did not say this. She stated he had shown his trustworthiness for the past 3 years. She will hold a press conference tomorrow flanked by trumps legal team.

choie

(4,107 posts)
11. I guess when Jay Sekulow and Pat Cipollone
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 11:37 PM
Jan 2020

spout their audacious lies against Schiff, Biden and Democrats in general during their opening statement, Democratic senators can do the same thing, right?

Yeah, right.

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
12. Lisa Murkowski took offense. Saying Adam Schiff had her until that remark.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 11:38 PM
Jan 2020

According to Twitter reporting anyway. Same with Cornyn and Barasso. Basically, they were desperate to latch onto any excuse for their upcoming no vote on witnesses and documents and they think they found it tonight with Adam Schiff's referencing the CBS report. What a bunch of craven cowards.

Liberal In Texas

(13,530 posts)
14. What a bunch of BS excuses.
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 11:43 PM
Jan 2020

"I would have done the right thing, except Schiff brought up the 'head on a pike' threat thing. Now I can't."

These people are trying to cover their asses when the whole thing falls apart...and the thing I'm talking about is the Deadbeat Donnie administration.

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
16. And if it weren't true that they're threatened into voting Trump's way,
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 11:48 PM
Jan 2020

It only makes it worse. So the price for their souls and our country is, what? Nothing? They're giving it away for free?

napi21

(45,806 posts)
13. Ya know, I always wondered WHY people in the House, Senate, & even the media always use
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 11:40 PM
Jan 2020

a euphemism for liar, like half truth, untruth, inaccurate. Now I know why! For the Impeachment Trial, I guess I can understand that thought. But the media? Nooooo

global1

(25,224 posts)
17. Is There Any Question Now As To How She Will Vote?......
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:05 AM
Jan 2020

The Repugs were looking for any thing to latch on to to discredit Schiff and the House Managers.

My question to Collins and Murkowski is: if the pike quote is not true - then why don't you vote to remove Trump and we'll see what happens.

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