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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBrian Williams surprised me when he said that
A lot of the GOP Senators had not heard the case being put forth when it was over in the House and were unaware about a lot of the info that the public is aware of. That never occurred to me that GOP Senators would know less than we do by watching it on TV. He said many were not interested in hearing what the Dems were doing in the House for several weeks of testimony and are somewhat clueless about the details and the whole picture.
pnwest
(3,266 posts)OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)The jury is out on that one.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Why would they stop blowing us off now?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)are willfully ignorant and are probably hearing a lot of this evidence for the first time. Hard to believe, I agree, but over the past 30 years the good ones were purged and replaced with mostly hard-right ideologues and go-alongs. And this era is revealing what anti-democracy RW plutocrats have created to front for them in government.
So yesterday, and again today, while Democratic house managers with meticulous precision lay out the evidence and also speak principle to the nation, Republican senators are forced to sit and hear it all. No one's saying it'll change their votes. But it's probably making some of them unhappy.
Yup. Except many have grandchildren already watching the proceedings. Their descendants will learn about it in school.
Rubin points out that Chief Justice Roberts is also spending long hours watching the Republican senate in stunningly corrupt action and that this might affect him. He'll be ruling on a lot of Trump/executive branch issues back on the court. Roberts is watching the enormous contrast between the Democrats laying out evidence with meticulous precision and citing the constitution and the Republicans, with no legal case to offer, are promising and using their power to smash our government.
renate
(13,776 posts)I just assumed they got their information in the equivalent of Senatorial Daily Briefings, but tonight I heard several times that this stuff was genuinely new to a lot of the senators.
Which, by the way, is utterly terrifying. Senators get their news from the commercial media just like the rest of us!?!?
stopdiggin
(11,302 posts)Neither of which are entirely beyond the scope ....
Skittles
(153,160 posts)they put PARTY ABOVE COUNTRY
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)Its all liberal bullshit to them.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)This isn't a simple bill, this is an impeachment hearing we're speaking of here. If they weren't at least keeping up after hours on the important details, they shouldn't be be in the senate.
Delmette2.0
(4,164 posts)IMO none of them have an excuse for not keeping up with the House investigations.
Midnight Writer
(21,753 posts)I'm not a sap, but I gotta believe that out of these, what, 53 Republicans, there are at least a handful that are looking at the needs of others rather than their own. There are at least a few that know what they are doing is wrong and will hurt the country. And maybe? Maybe there are four that will stand up and make history.
Well, maybe I am a sap.
Doesn't mean I'm wrong.
padah513
(2,502 posts)I hope he's right. They are Fox-acolytes and believe everything they hear from the talking heads on there.
Aussie105
(5,388 posts)feeding on itself and spreading like a plague. It's become self justifying and all too common.
Got to ask though - why is Fox doing this? What is in it for the brains behind the shaping of the words that spew forth from the Fox Talking Heads?
Aussie105
(5,388 posts)I can't believe that some GOP senators aren't fully aware of what negative things Trump has done, or how a large part of the population feels about Trump.
I'd like to know the internal dialog that goes on inside their own heads that makes it all make sense, that it is for the general good of Americans, and what in their opinion, makes it all ok with them.
There's a lot of denial and convoluted thinking going on, bordering on collective insanity.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)while Adam Schiff was speaking many don't seem to give a shit.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)They are so myopically focused on staying in office & THAT's all they care about. Whatever it takes.
They're almost as stupid as the people who vote for them.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)theyre whiny little snowflakes who dont like to hear the truth about their cover up.
tblue37
(65,340 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,320 posts)about right and wrong.
malaise
(268,968 posts)that I am very familiar with the details.
ReTHUGs live in their own bubble and don't want to know the facts.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)that trump extorted Ukraine for personal gain. Hell, the phone call proved that. I doubt that any of them are thinking "oh this changes everything, hearing what Sondland said," for example. It's not like they are on the fence and one more fact would do it. They knew going in he was guilty. And they also have long ago decided to stick with him.
A vote to convict is a vote to have a Dem president in November.
I bet things would have been completely different if the election was 2-3 years away.
malaise
(268,968 posts)They all know he's guilty and so are many of them
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)their own asses. No wonder none of them want to testify. Although it was interesting trump said it was ok for Perry and Pompeo to testify.
Arkansas Granny
(31,515 posts)has been front page news for weeks. I would imagine that the halls of Congress have been buzzing with talk about it. If they are ignorant of the facts, it's wilful ignorance. As someone else mentioned, they all have staff to help keep them up to speed.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Marching orders, and they don't want the information that would create cognitive dissonance. There are few leaders in their party, and those leaders are corrupt or compromised.
crickets
(25,969 posts)DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Anything is possible.
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Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)don't watch the fucking news.
C_U_L8R
(45,001 posts)and their shifts in position just reflect their fear to remain in power. Enough of these schmucks.
retread
(3,762 posts)samnsara
(17,622 posts)..and why all this impeachment stuff is going on.
eShirl
(18,490 posts)tanyev
(42,552 posts)Tech
(1,771 posts)they were trying to discourage their followers from watching.
JHB
(37,159 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,515 posts)they should look for another line of work.