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keithbvadu2

(36,778 posts)
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 10:35 PM Jan 2020

What if enough Senate republicans can't make it to the trial vote?

What if enough Senate republicans can't make it to the trial vote?

Flat tire? Terrible head cold?

Could there be enough ratio of guilty to innocent to convict?

And no republicans would have to vote innocent.

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csziggy

(34,136 posts)
1. I beleive that 2/3rds of the Senators PRESENT have to vote for removal
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 10:39 PM
Jan 2020

So if only 23 Republican senators show up and all the Democratic senators are there, we'd be good.

Karadeniz

(22,511 posts)
2. I figured this out for another poster...can't Remember the results, but a lot of GOP would have
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 10:40 PM
Jan 2020

To be absent for 47 Democrat votes to represent 2/3's of those present.

TomSlick

(11,097 posts)
3. The super majority required is of the Senators present.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 10:44 PM
Jan 2020

If a case of blue flu broke out among the Republican conference, all that would be required is for the Democrats and enough Republicans be present to make a quorum and then two thirds of those present to vote to convict.

RockRaven

(14,959 posts)
5. Senate GOPers missing the vote as a mechanism to convict Trump requires MORE
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 10:58 PM
Jan 2020

rather than fewer to be willing to go along with the plan of conviction and removal.

With all Senators present, and 47 Dems, they need 20 GOPers to vote to convict to get 67/100 (67% is just above the 2/3 threshold).

If the GOP "defectors" (i.e. non-traitors-to-the-Constitution-and-their-oaths) instead want to miss the vote as a means of removing Trump with only Dem affirmative votes, because they don't vote against Trump and thereby increase the numerator, you need more participants in that plan to reach the 2/3 threshold. Specifically 30 GOP Senators. 47/70 is 67.14%.

Abstainers are only worth a fraction of convictors, so more are needed -- probably not a viable plan at this scale because of how obviously contrived it looks. If they are going to bail on the Trump-humpers they might as well do so effectively and strongly, and not look like a waffler or a coward.

keithbvadu2

(36,778 posts)
7. "obviously contrived"
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 11:20 PM
Jan 2020

"obviously contrived"

Yeah.

That's also the way it looks right now with their expressed intention to acquit and work with the WH team.


MerryBlooms

(11,767 posts)
8. They'll all fall in line for moscow mitch.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 11:27 PM
Jan 2020

After they find him not guilty, start checking the traitors' personal accounts, foreign accounts, campaign accounts and large extravagant purchases or gifts.

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