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Seth ABramson recommends a hail mary now (Original Post) Grasswire2 Jan 2020 OP
Afraid we'd lose big in public approval with that strategy, which is what Hoyt Jan 2020 #1
Hmmm. So he gets a pass? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #3
As far as another round of impeachment on Iran and Syria, I'd wait Hoyt Jan 2020 #6
He got a pass on every crime he's ever done in his life. Kablooie Jan 2020 #14
Watch the 4 part documentary on trump on Netflix Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #16
Agree...but do question the Mike Pence deal. Pence Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #2
You'd be hard pressed to find anyone here who doesn't think Pence deserves a good impeachment, but OnDoutside Jan 2020 #20
Yet if you boil it all down, a vote to convict by a Republican Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #21
And Barr demtenjeep Jan 2020 #4
How about fuBarr Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #22
only way to fix what? Takket Jan 2020 #5
To fix the fact that, in Seth's opinion, Pelosi released the articles too soon More_Cowbell Jan 2020 #11
Or without enough meat? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #17
I'd go for the war crime charge. Syria, while I agree is despicable, is not a war crime. Nitram Jan 2020 #7
It's quickly becoming clear that Seth Abramson is a moron greenjar_01 Jan 2020 #8
your concern is duly noted, bless your heart not_the_one Jan 2020 #9
He's always been like this, as far as I can tell. That's why I don't follow him. :p NCLefty Jan 2020 #15
In your opinion. How's playing the cautious safe route going? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #18
House needs to impeach Trump Corgigal Jan 2020 #10
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Jan 2020 #12
And one of the biggest, unreported crime...endangerment Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #19
+100 Duppers Jan 2020 #13
All shouldawouldacoulda hail marys get the kill switch. Dismissal. If there is a breakthrough ancianita Jan 2020 #23
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Afraid we'd lose big in public approval with that strategy, which is what
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 11:30 PM
Jan 2020

the Senate trial and general election are all about.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. As far as another round of impeachment on Iran and Syria, I'd wait
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 11:42 PM
Jan 2020

see how we do on this Impeachment and what is public sentiment for going after trump on Middle East.

And, before you ask, I thought he was wrong. Most folks don’t.

With Syria, we cursed him for putting troops in, then taking them out. Plenty of junk on trump that is clear abuse, racism, emoluments, and worse, to fight that loser.

Kablooie

(18,619 posts)
14. He got a pass on every crime he's ever done in his life.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 02:13 AM
Jan 2020

and that's a hell of a lot!

That streak of escaping justice looks like it's just going to continue indefinitely.
Just when you think it's about to end ... it doesn't.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
16. Watch the 4 part documentary on trump on Netflix
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 07:38 AM
Jan 2020

If you need any proof for that! You are so right.

And to me it's like a speeding train, building momentum. It didn't get stopped when it was going slower and now it's a runaway.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
2. Agree...but do question the Mike Pence deal. Pence
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 11:33 PM
Jan 2020

Is there fallback guy for 2020. Oh wait, they think he can't win. So doing that will get rid of both, and what they go with Romney?

There should have been inquiries opened up yesterday on war crimes. We need Seth to tell them that?

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
20. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone here who doesn't think Pence deserves a good impeachment, but
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 07:57 AM
Jan 2020

you need to weigh up the benefit of effectively venting, but not ousting him in McConnell's Senate. In anycase, the eye on the prize is Trump, this November.

What Dems should be doing is using all the stuff that has been uncovered to ad-bomb the American public with how criminally corrupt the Trump gang are, from now to November. Just as the Lincoln Project are doing.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
21. Yet if you boil it all down, a vote to convict by a Republican
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:03 AM
Jan 2020

Is pretty much a vote to exist under a Democratic President for 4 yrs. It might be a completely different story if it was year one and they liked the VP.

More_Cowbell

(2,190 posts)
11. To fix the fact that, in Seth's opinion, Pelosi released the articles too soon
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 01:05 AM
Jan 2020

He wanted her to wait so that no matter how the GOP tried to shorten the Senate trial, it wouldn't be done before the State of the Union address.

Nitram

(22,776 posts)
7. I'd go for the war crime charge. Syria, while I agree is despicable, is not a war crime.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 12:00 AM
Jan 2020

It is a violation of trust and a betrayal of sworn allies who have given their lives for a cause we supported.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
10. House needs to impeach Trump
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 12:33 AM
Jan 2020

again tomorrow. Let’s say on Puerto Rico.

Every Monday, throw some more paper down. Call people in, let’s make his CNS spin.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
19. And one of the biggest, unreported crime...endangerment
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 07:48 AM
Jan 2020

to the public's safety.

He reversed an Obama regulation that stopped coal companies from dumping sludge that contains proven cancer causing materials into the water. This, to me is a crime against humanity and has no defense. How would you, could you, even defend this? Could easily be dropped in, sure there is a mass of data that was used to enact the regulation...a time when Obama, as President, actually read.

ancianita

(36,009 posts)
23. All shouldawouldacoulda hail marys get the kill switch. Dismissal. If there is a breakthrough
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 10:05 AM
Jan 2020

through this, I'll go back to church.

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