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hlthe2b

(102,234 posts)
2. I vacillate between intense anger, frustration, depression reading about all the ways
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 10:44 PM
Jan 2020

the Republicans and Trump's ilk are plotting to derail this whole process-- and the news is full of it today.

I don't know how the hell we are going to get through all this. It is sickening. It is upsetting as hell. And it is frightening to think what comes next if they get their way and Trump is quickly "exonerated."

global1

(25,242 posts)
4. Has Bill Clinton Ever Stated That He Was 'Exonerated"?.......
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 10:54 PM
Jan 2020

I've always heard that he was 'impeached' and was an 'impeached president'. I heard that he wasn't voted out of office in the Senate trial and he retained his Presidency. I don't think I've ever heard someone say or defend him by saying that he was 'exonerated'. I don't think I've ever heard him say that either.

Am I wrong? In the history books - does it say that Bill Clinton was exonerated?

I'm asking this - because I believe what Nancy Pelosi has been saying. Trump is impeached and his impeachment will be his legacy. He's impeached for life.

We all know what he did with the Mueller Report. He claimed he was 'exonerated'.

We all know that if he makes it through the Senate trial - he will claim he's be 'exonerated'.

We all know better - but it looks like he'll get away with claiming exoneration from impeachment and he will go on to torment us.

hlthe2b

(102,234 posts)
6. Bill Clinton was sufficiently honorable to ultimately take responsibility for his actions
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 10:58 PM
Jan 2020

and accept the outcome. Trump would never do so and he is sufficiently deranged, deluded and narcissistic to convince himself (and his followers) that he was exonerated.


We'll see what the press and ulltimately history does with it. (if we still have anything for which history would be written).

safeinOhio

(32,674 posts)
5. The Publicans are
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 10:57 PM
Jan 2020

are digging their own grave for the 2020 elections. While we might lose the trial, who cares if it means we win in November?

hlthe2b

(102,234 posts)
7. It should be a wipe out--if sufficent numbers of registered voters are NOT successfully denied
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 11:01 PM
Jan 2020

their right to vote and if elections are not corrupted/hacked in some critical states and counties.

I'll be working as hard as I can. Ultimately, I can't say what will happen.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
8. Wait, aren't they doing it dark
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 11:05 PM
Jan 2020

no cameras, no mics, no CSpan even?

That was the last I heard, no coverage allowed. At. All.

global1

(25,242 posts)
12. Maybe They Don't Want Trump To Watch....
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 01:21 AM
Jan 2020

to avoid him tweeting or calling and telling them what to do.

Then when they vote to remove him from office he won't know what hit him.

Wishful thinking I guess.

Hekate

(90,660 posts)
10. I've got a long, long day tomorrow, but will be checking in here in the middle of the day...
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 01:17 AM
Jan 2020

Other than that, will try to watch when I can. Like you, I feel it is a case of "witnessing."

Democracy dies in darkness.

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
11. I will listen on radio since the sessions will be
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 01:20 AM
Jan 2020

long, so I can hear it all, or most of it, while continuing wirh things I need to do.

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