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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:02 PM Jan 2020

Second Largest Physicians Group in US Has New Prescription: It's Medicare for All

From the article:


The fight for Medicare for All received a two-handed boost from tens of thousands of doctors on Monday when the American College of Physicians—in a move described as a "seachange for the medical professions"—officially endorsed a single-payer system as among only one of two possible ways to improve the nation's healthcare woes.
Representing 159,000 doctors of internal medicine nationwide, the ACP is the largest medical specialty society and second-largest physician group in the country overall after the American Medical Association (AMA)…..

Although the United States leads the world in health care spending, it fares far worse than its peers on coverage and most dimensions of value. Cost and coverage are intertwined. Many Americans cannot affford health insurance, and even those with insurance face substantial cost-related barriers to care. Employer-sponsored insurance is less prevalent and more expensive than in the past, and in response, deductibles have grown and benefits have been cut.

The long-term solvency of U.S. public insurance programs is a perennial concern. The United States spends far more on healthcare administration than peer countries. Administrative barriers divert time from patient care and frustrate patients, clinicians, and policymakers. Major changes are needed to a system that costs too much, leaves too many behind, and delivers too little.


To read more:

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/20/historic-shift-second-largest-physicians-group-us-has-new-prescription-its-medicare?cd-origin=rss&utm_term=AO&utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter&utm_content=email&utm_source=Daily%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Email

The industries that make their money by restricting access to healthcare will lie to us and try to convince us that the country cannot afford Medicare for All.

But given the fact that other countries provide better coverage for less, often 1/2 of what the US spends per capita, that lie cannot stand.

The truth is that this country cannot afford the current, profit centered system.
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Second Largest Physicians Group in US Has New Prescription: It's Medicare for All (Original Post) guillaumeb Jan 2020 OP
Kicking this blm Jan 2020 #1
Healthcare for all is kacekwl Jan 2020 #2
The other mechanism the ACP endorsed is the Public Option. You gotta read stuff from Common Dreams Hoyt Jan 2020 #3
Some European countries allow for some private coverage. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #6
it's the regulation that will be sabotaged Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #10
That is where the fight would be. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #12
if we had a truely affordable public option private insurance would disappear on its own questionseverything Jan 2020 #16
Elsewhere in this article... RobertDevereaux Jan 2020 #4
True, and this is due to many built in inefficiencies guillaumeb Jan 2020 #7
#MFA riversedge Jan 2020 #5
We truly cannot afford the repsent, dysfunctional, system. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #8
In a nutshell: "costs too much, leaves too many behind, and delivers too little." Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #9
Yes, this perfectly describes the current system. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #11
Let's get this done, then! Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #13
It is the best way to solve a huge problem. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #14
But the much larger AMA opposes it Recursion Jan 2020 #15
Profits over patients? guillaumeb Jan 2020 #17
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. The other mechanism the ACP endorsed is the Public Option. You gotta read stuff from Common Dreams
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:17 PM
Jan 2020

closely. Even Bernie Sanders missed the obvious.

"While it [the ACP's Report] did not say that Medicare for All was the only way to achieve a more equitable, accessible, and sustainable healthcare system, the ACP laid out four key recommendations for achieving universal coverage in the United States. They are:

1. The American College of Physicians recommends that the United States transition to a system that achieves universal coverage with essential benefits and lower administrative costs.

2. Coverage should not be dependent on a person's place of residence, employment, health status, or income.

3. Coverage should ensure sufficient access to clinicians, hospitals, and other sources of care.

4. Two options could achieve these objectives: a single-payer financing approach, or a publicly financed coverage option to be offered along with regulated private insurance."

The ACP's Report is available here: https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2759528/envisioning-better-u-s-health-care-system-all-call-action

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
6. Some European countries allow for some private coverage.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:27 PM
Jan 2020

And these non-profit companies are strictly regulated.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
12. That is where the fight would be.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:57 PM
Jan 2020

And that is where we should demand that our Democratic representatives represent the best interest of the citizens, not the industries that profit from the current system.

questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
16. if we had a truely affordable public option private insurance would disappear on its own
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 04:02 AM
Jan 2020

so the big insurance companies will not let that happen any more than they did when Obama promised it

RobertDevereaux

(1,857 posts)
4. Elsewhere in this article...
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:21 PM
Jan 2020

“While the ACP in its backing of a single-payer approach also co-endorsed the more incremental step of creating a federally-administered "public option" as a pathway to universal coverage, Drs. Steffie Himmelstein and David Woolhandler, co-founders of Physician for a National Health Program (PNHP), argue the latter would be an inferior avenue if the aim is to cover everyone while reducing overall costs.”

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
7. True, and this is due to many built in inefficiencies
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:29 PM
Jan 2020

in the current system.

Healthcare providers would still need a large staff to navigate the many different plans. And this would reduce the real savings that would come from a single payer system.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
8. We truly cannot afford the repsent, dysfunctional, system.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:45 PM
Jan 2020

But the industries and individuals that profit from the current system will do all that they can to protect their profits.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
15. But the much larger AMA opposes it
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 10:46 PM
Jan 2020

You're just not going to get most physicians to sign up for the pay cut MFA would mean for them

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