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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid anyone watch Deadline Whitehouse ?
With Nicolle Wallace and guests?
Jeremy Bash and Heidi Przybyla were both very, very seriously attempting to discuss the situation our country is confronting. Our democracy is in a crisis.
They were discussing the NSA and CIA withholding intelligence from the Intelligence Committee. Adam Schiff was shown in a clip, commenting about it. It is a very serious matter.
How can the Republican Senate not see what is happening? They are asleep at the wheel. There should be an emergency session of the Gang of Eight. (Or Seven?) They should be communicating with each other. The partisan divide has gone too far.
Nero fiddled while Rome burned...
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)kentuck
(111,052 posts)This is very serious.
maxsolomon
(33,244 posts)It is more important to stop Trump's conviction and retain GOP control of the WH & Senate.
I'm sure they'll regret it all after November 2024.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)maxsolomon
(33,244 posts)I think we've got a great shot in 2020, but the GOP Senate won't find their souls until they're not needed - be that the 2nd week in this November, or the 2nd week in November 2024.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)All sorts of things "should be" happening, I totally agree. Emergency meetings, the FBI should be flying into action to look into everything that has come out over the past week (and before), grand juries should be summoned.
This is an absolute crisis.
I keep thinking we should all be in the streets, but we're stuck, paralyzed. Because not enough people are worried? Because we still have something to lose? Are we too comfortable, too confused? Overwhelmed and exhausted? I don't know.
brush
(53,741 posts)who are now seniors.
Guess GenXers and Millennials have other things to do.
Ok,Millenials? Ok,GenXers?
Where are you?
Hekate
(90,556 posts)...at the beginning of Trump.
But there comes a time, young people, when you have to stop waiting for grandma and grandpa to do the heavy lifting (or, in this case, the heavy marching). Because we are all your grandma and grandpa now, and for most of us our joints are giving out.
You're all grown up now, and snarking "Okay, Boomer" at us is not going to save the country or the planet. We tried, and past a certain point it wasn't ever generational warfare, it was always class warfare, which you are experiencing in the here and now.
All the best,
Hekate
brush
(53,741 posts)instead of thinking activism is being snarky online to Boomers who actually got in the streets against Nixon, Reagan, HW Bush, W Bush and trump too.
stopbush
(24,392 posts)to take to the streets. Hell, I was doing that back when we were in Nam.
Time for the young-uns to step up. Well keep sending the checks.
NCDem47
(2,248 posts)...buying stuff at Amazon, taking selfies and obsessing about which team is in the Super Bowl.
I just dont understand this nations priorities.
brush
(53,741 posts)thegoose
(3,115 posts)They want to rake in billions while the world blows up. Where are they going to spend the money? Who are they going to leave it to? They don't care. They just want to win the game.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)They are either insane or totally stupid.
brush
(53,741 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)strategy is,refuse to pass any and all legislation until after Nov,5. That way,if he still has the Senate,well get ready to pay the price of lost Democracy. McConnell is in this for Power and Money,nothing more and nothing less. If his polls show him loosing int August,watch for him to Bail.
If the Dems do not use the right Messaging in the next ninety days,well Mitch has us by the short ones. Time to drop the hammer on this POS.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)Vlad, or a billionaire russian oligarch, can arrange for MM to "win".
That's what hackers do. They did, and they will do it again, in all the right races.
Every race that does not have paper ballots should be suspect. PLUS, every race in every swing state that insured the "rigged" win in 2016, are also suspect.
They (those races) should all be watched under a high intensity microscope.
dlk
(11,512 posts)It has been abundantly clear for some time they dont really believe in democracy. Instead, they believe winning at all costs.
bucolic_frolic
(43,045 posts)Name the leaders: Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler. There were minor league despots, too. In some quarters the fight for freedoms of the 19th century encountered some dictators - Napoleons, Bourbons, Czars to name a few.
You know what they did. You know how they got there - no one in the know dared oppose them. No one out of the know had any power to stop them.
It's that simple. Don't make it complicated. Understand it. Prepare to try to survive.
shanti
(21,675 posts)If he gets the presidency again, i don't believe we will survive, as a people or a country. They will come for our SS, as they have been dying to do for years.
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)It has not been around all that long. I fear a tipping point could bring us to despotism much quicker than most might imagine.
When viewing recorded human history, democracy is the exception, not the rule.
Whether we like it or not, we may need to be in the streets, and soon.
kairos12
(12,842 posts)ecstatic
(32,652 posts)If the GOP assists trump in breaking the law, the experiment will have officially failed. Period. There's no other way to spin it.
Hamlette
(15,408 posts)The tape that showed Nixon asked the CIA to get the FBI to stop the investigation into the burglary. Using the CIA to manipulate the FBI, or intelligence in general was what that was all about. And a majority of the GOP went along with it and got rid of him.
Here it sounds like Trump is telling the CIA and NSA to bury evidence.
GOP senators should be asked how that is any different.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)Trump's consolidation of power is frightening. And we have a bunch of wusses and traitors to the Constitution in the senate content on letting this happen.
Trump fights hard. When I heard our candidates arguing about who-said-what two or three years ago, I cringed. They need to bring cannons to this knife fight.
Bettie
(16,072 posts)and that is part of the problem.
They are all in on this, excited to see our nation burn.
They are wealthy and powerful, so they don't give a single rat's ass about what happens to anyone but themselves.
Why should they? They will be fine, they are the masters.
shanti
(21,675 posts)they will abolish Congress. The current people won't care, because they'll be wealthy beyond belief, and all will have positions of power in the R's new government.
dem4decades
(11,269 posts)I don't think it's just American monied interests amy longer. They are protecting their owners.