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kentuck

(111,085 posts)
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 02:50 PM Jan 2020

Democrats know they don't have the votes to convict.

They have never believed that they had the votes.

But, they want there to be political consequences for the Repubs that defend the illegal and unconstitutional actions of Donald Trump.

They want to be on the side of public opinion. At present, about 70% say there needs to be documents and witnesses to have a fair trial.

Democrats want to win the public debate, realizing there is little chance of convicting Donald Trump.

Repubs will claim victory but will it be a pyrrhic victory?

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Democrats know they don't have the votes to convict. (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2020 OP
Democrats have united their base and Republicans have united theirs Downtown Hound Jan 2020 #1
There are 3 of us for every 2 Trumphumpers. lagomorph777 Jan 2020 #2
Forcing Collins, Gardner, Tillis, McSally, and Ernst to take tough votes will help us win Senate scheming daemons Jan 2020 #3
I would love to get 52-3 votes... Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #4
The world is watching. moondust Jan 2020 #5
They ignore the truth at their own electoral peril. Kid Berwyn Jan 2020 #6
We know he won't be removed but he will still be impeached. blueinredohio Jan 2020 #7
Republican senators are mafia thugs cosplaying statesmen Generic Brad Jan 2020 #8

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
1. Democrats have united their base and Republicans have united theirs
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 02:56 PM
Jan 2020

Problem for them is, our base is bigger. And our Dem leadership knows this.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
2. There are 3 of us for every 2 Trumphumpers.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jan 2020

If we all get out and vote, we win. Well, depending on how many states have hacked vote counting servers, and massive suppression.

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
3. Forcing Collins, Gardner, Tillis, McSally, and Ernst to take tough votes will help us win Senate
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 03:08 PM
Jan 2020

That's the Democratic plan, in my view.

moondust

(19,976 posts)
5. The world is watching.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 03:25 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Mon Jan 20, 2020, 03:56 PM - Edit history (1)

All the world's big TV stations that I've seen are covering it day by day. Some are having discussion panels about it and most seem to know the basic facts. Very few are Trump cultists and are thus looking at it more or less objectively. They are likely to see who Republicans really are and what kind of undemocratic skulduggery they are capable of. No doubt many are frightened that self-serving assholes like this are controlling the levers of so much power. America was supposed to be better than this; future trust is questionable.

Kid Berwyn

(14,897 posts)
6. They ignore the truth at their own electoral peril.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jan 2020

Democracy’s problem comes with reliance on a fair election. Thanks to Putin, Trump May be able to tamper and whatever else he needs to “win.”

So we need to do all we can to make the truth — Trump’s treason — stands so plain, the GOP Senators must vote to convict. We might not get a chance to set things straight in November.

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
8. Republican senators are mafia thugs cosplaying statesmen
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 04:33 PM
Jan 2020

They need to be exposed for what they are - criminals and criminal enablers.

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