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Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 06:24 PM Jan 2020

I worry that the impeachment is just the beginning of our troubles.

Once the Senate votes not to remove Trump he will see this as a carte blanche to do anything he wants to win the next election.
There will be virtually no chance of being impeached again before November so he will redouble his efforts to cheat and distort the election. He will be emboldened to solicit help from Putin and AG Barr can quash any investigations into this. Trump could force a win for himself in spite of a huge majority of voters who are against him.

If after all this he still loses, he will remain president for 2 1/2 months before the new president is sworn in. Because he's so vindictive I'm sure he will spend this time doing everything he can to sabotage the new administration. I'm not sure just what he would do but with his cadre of loyal, amoral advisors I'm sure they will brainstorm up some pretty awful scenarios.

One scary thought is that he could drop a nuclear bomb somewhere just before he leaves so the next president would have to immediately deal with the consequences before he even has a cabinet.

The only way out of this is for the Senate to remove him from office but then it would be nearly impossible for Republicans to get a viable candidate nominated and campaigning before November.
To remove him would mean defeat in the next election so there's a strong incentive for them to keep him in power.

So buckle up. If you think the roller coaster's been bad up to now just wait till the trial is over.

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I worry that the impeachment is just the beginning of our troubles. (Original Post) Kablooie Jan 2020 OP
Not me. Impeachment is the first step out of our troubles. marble falls Jan 2020 #1
tRump is a narcissistic sociopath. He could give a damn about the country, the people or its future. RKP5637 Jan 2020 #2
there will be PLENTY OF TIME to impeach him again . trueblue2007 Jan 2020 #3
He's a shitshow whatever we do. mahina Jan 2020 #4
Impeachment at least slows him up Progressive dog Jan 2020 #5
Or fwvinson Jan 2020 #15
It's better to act than not. Progressive dog Jan 2020 #21
If all goes well bluestarone Jan 2020 #6
I believe the Military won't let him nuke before leaving. No way. NCLefty Jan 2020 #7
Very true. Thst is something I do not worry about. wnylib Jan 2020 #16
so the real scary thought is that the monster jimlup Jan 2020 #8
Me too...that's why it's critical to vote for the person with the most appeal to win the swing UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #12
K&R, only thing we have is the house refusing to certify Red Don's cheated election victory uponit7771 Jan 2020 #9
At least it is something pandr32 Jan 2020 #11
Yep, the kink in our system currently is the judicial system being able to take their time ruling on uponit7771 Jan 2020 #13
Think of an intelligent game of bridge: losing some tricks can promote your other cards struggle4progress Jan 2020 #10
I've said this on here several times before, but if Dems win the WH and Senate back & hold the House NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #14
Hopefully, some Senatorial staff will see this idea and seriously evaluate it. Mike 03 Jan 2020 #18
No matter what the trial outcome, we have wnylib Jan 2020 #17
Impeachment JGug1 Jan 2020 #19
Our Troubles westen Jan 2020 #20
For one thing, he can drive his cart onto the greens at his own courses, and apparently does. maddiemom Jan 2020 #22

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
2. tRump is a narcissistic sociopath. He could give a damn about the country, the people or its future.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 06:32 PM
Jan 2020

All he knows is revenge and winning. He will walk over the entire country to get what he feels he is entitled too. He is sleazy and crooked as hell. And has all his cohorts lined up. And, he doesn't give a damn about the constitution or how government is legally supposed to work. IMO, he's capable of any destruction to win in his eyes.



mahina

(17,651 posts)
4. He's a shitshow whatever we do.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 07:23 PM
Jan 2020

And as another poster already said, there's plenty of time to impeach him again and no shortage of counts that are rock solid, evidence-wise.

Progressive dog

(6,900 posts)
21. It's better to act than not.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 06:43 PM
Jan 2020

You don't let criminals walk because the jury likes them. I'd call that negligence.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
16. Very true. Thst is something I do not worry about.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 12:22 PM
Jan 2020

There are plenty of other concerns, though, that do worry me.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
8. so the real scary thought is that the monster
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 09:20 PM
Jan 2020

cheats himself to re-election. I'm sorry to say that with Putin's help I believe that it could happen.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
12. Me too...that's why it's critical to vote for the person with the most appeal to win the swing
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 11:29 AM
Jan 2020

states and by the widest margin.

pandr32

(11,581 posts)
11. At least it is something
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 11:26 AM
Jan 2020

An investigation would ensue and expose the cheating, but unless we get rid of Barr and make our Justice Department independent again they would block every effort and declare the opposite of what happened to be true.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
13. Yep, the kink in our system currently is the judicial system being able to take their time ruling on
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 11:32 AM
Jan 2020

... issues for both sides.

The judicial system shouldn't be able to take 123423 months on something like McGhan, that allows presidents to commit all the crimes they want in the last couple of years of their reign and then stonewall.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
14. I've said this on here several times before, but if Dems win the WH and Senate back & hold the House
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 12:06 PM
Jan 2020

Democratic senators should stay in DC on the DL for the lame duck session and then storm the senate for those proforma sessions that McConnell has - there will be a couple of R senators for a quorum and then Dems can force votes by majority - vote to convict, remove and ban from Office.

If NC Republicans can vote to override vetos when Democrats were at a 9/11 memorial, Democrats can return the favor and have votes when Republicans are sitting down for Thanksgiving dinner.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
17. No matter what the trial outcome, we have
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 12:32 PM
Jan 2020

some very ugly, difficult times ahead.

If he is convicted, his base of militias and other belligerent folliwrrs will rebel in threstening actions and violence. Trunp er.al. would ignore the conviction.

But thst is very unlikely to happen.
If he is acquitted, he will take vengeance against individuals and regions via policies. We already know that he is vindictive, bigly. He will believe that he is invincible snd will act on that belief.

JGug1

(320 posts)
19. Impeachment
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 02:29 PM
Jan 2020

Actually, there is plenty of time to impeach tRump again. If he abuses his power again, he can be impeached for that. If he breaks the law again, he can be impeached for that.
Trump can't just push a button and send a nuclear weapon. Or any other missile. He has to give an order. An order to send a nuke won't be followed.
Yes, he will do evil things while waiting to leave the White House. IF they are illegal, he can be prosecuted once out of the White House. Am I worried? Yes. But, not as worried as you are.

westen

(23 posts)
20. Our Troubles
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 04:49 PM
Jan 2020

I'm sure Donald has done much more wrong doing while in office, it hasn't come to light yet.
Who knows what goes on at at his golf coarse or hotel. No press allowed.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
22. For one thing, he can drive his cart onto the greens at his own courses, and apparently does.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 11:04 AM
Jan 2020

This ensures that he doesn't use up the last of his "lifetime allotment" of energy and exercise, which he must have nearly done by now.

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