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... planned for Ambassador Yavonovitch. Someone with the means and authority realized it and set up the expedited extraction. Someone took steps to protect her.
Its time that someone came forward publicly with what they know.
lsewpershad
(2,620 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)I seem to recall from her house testimony that the caller was a woman, but that could be wrong.
That person likely knows.
PatSeg
(47,285 posts)That is the first thing that popped in my head. That person was very concerned for her safety. It sounded very intimidating.
global1
(25,226 posts)told her to get out of the country that she was in danger?
bluestarone
(16,872 posts)She knows who called her! That's GOOD! It will explode in their face, by the time it's over!
Arazi
(6,829 posts)About three hours later around 1 am in Kyiv Perez called Yovanovitch back and said she had to leave Ukraine immediately.
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/4/20948280/impeachment-transcripts-marie-yovanovitch
Don't forget, Pompeo said he couldn't defend her because he thought she'd get mean tweets from #Traitor if he did
KPN
(15,638 posts)or lethal shiv.
This fucking administration and most of the GOP are a cabal. They need to be outed, prosecuted and held fully accountable if we hope to put this nation back together. This is frightening stuff. Its not a game, its not politics, its not white collar crime. It needs to be recognized for and called what it is. Its a coup by a criminal cabal enabled by big money interests. This isnt corruption, its a criminal take-over a coup!
tblue37
(65,227 posts)PandoraAwakened
(905 posts)another woman in the State Dept. delivered a cryptic "get out now" phone call to her, but it was Ukranian officials who actually warned her she was in imminent physical danger.
Maybe Zelensky knew exactly what tRump meant when the Narcissist-in-Chief told the Ukranian president by phone, "She's going to go through some things." I imagine Zelensky wanted nothing to do with a hit job on Ukranian soil that he would then be blamed for.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)TRump, Inc. is Russian mafia and the rethugians know it. But rank & file rethugians voters will stay in denial.
Whiskeytide
(4,459 posts)... intelligence services or some other law enforcement agency was picking up intel on the scheme, and alerted the new presidents people.
But they would have had to contact someone in the US government with their concerns to get the extraction done. THAT person needs to speak up - unless, I guess, it might compromise their position.
But the more I think about it as I type this, maybe they have already. Could that be the actual whistleblower that got this ball rolling in the first place?
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)That's what his people in Ukraine said to him: Shit or get off the pot. We can't keep up this surveillance without being noticed.
None of this is drunk talk, or fabulist talk. He had people there conducting surveillance who were themselves worried about counter-surveillance. It's beyond fucking belief.
KPN
(15,638 posts)off the pot. An apt observation and description.
lame54
(35,268 posts)Raven
(13,879 posts)country on the next flight. That's one hell of a way to lose your job!
bucolic_frolic
(43,066 posts)espionage and counterintelligence. They have cast a very big net this time.
gab13by13
(21,264 posts)Put yourself in that person or persons shoes. Coming out would take tremendous courage, it is darn scary to buck the Russian mob.
mopinko
(70,025 posts)am i wrong? maybe not subpoenaed, but certainly asked for and stonewalled.
you know there are emails.
KPN
(15,638 posts)became clear to me.
blakstoneranger
(333 posts)Because they all helped or chipped in where they could. Doesn't matter to them because 1. It's for trump, and 2. It's against a democrat. This is why his base never falters to support him. They're cheering him on. Hillary was right a bunch of deplorable. Wow, the republicans must be really desparate to MAGA. It's all obama's fault.
dweller
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