Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Whiskeytide

(4,459 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:35 AM Jan 2020

Someone, somewhere, KNOWS what was ...

... planned for Ambassador Yavonovitch. Someone with the means and authority realized it and set up the expedited extraction. Someone took steps to protect her.

It’s time that someone came forward publicly with what they know.

21 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
2. Who called her and told her to leave immediately?
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:55 AM
Jan 2020

I seem to recall from her house testimony that the caller was a woman, but that could be wrong.

That person likely knows.

PatSeg

(47,285 posts)
6. Yes
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:38 AM
Jan 2020

That is the first thing that popped in my head. That person was very concerned for her safety. It sounded very intimidating.

global1

(25,226 posts)
7. Has Anyone Asked Ambassador Yavonovitch Who It Was That Called Her And.....
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:46 AM
Jan 2020

told her to get out of the country that she was in danger?

bluestarone

(16,872 posts)
11. THIS!!
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:11 PM
Jan 2020

She knows who called her! That's GOOD! It will explode in their face, by the time it's over!

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
12. Carol Perez from the State Dept
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jan 2020
Around 10 pm Kyiv time, Yovanovitch says, she got a call from the State Department’s director general, Carol Perez. “She said that she was giving me a heads-up, that things were going wrong, kind of off the track,” Yovanovitch said. Perez told her that there was “nervousness” among State Department leadership and in the White House but did not explain further.

About three hours later — around 1 am in Kyiv — Perez called Yovanovitch back and said she had to leave Ukraine immediately.



https://www.vox.com/2019/11/4/20948280/impeachment-transcripts-marie-yovanovitch

Don't forget, Pompeo said he couldn't defend her because he thought she'd get mean tweets from #Traitor if he did

KPN

(15,638 posts)
18. Mean tweets being bullets, poison, an unfortunate accident
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:51 PM
Jan 2020

or lethal shiv.

This fucking administration and most of the GOP are a cabal. They need to be outed, prosecuted and held fully accountable if we hope to put this nation back together. This is frightening stuff. It’s not a game, it’s not politics, it’s not white collar crime. It needs to be recognized for and called what it is. It’s a coup by a criminal cabal enabled by big money interests. This isn’t corruption, it’s a criminal take-over — a coup!

PandoraAwakened

(905 posts)
3. Referring to Yavonovitch's Congressional testimony,
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jan 2020

another woman in the State Dept. delivered a cryptic "get out now" phone call to her, but it was Ukranian officials who actually warned her she was in imminent physical danger.

Maybe Zelensky knew exactly what tRump meant when the Narcissist-in-Chief told the Ukranian president by phone, "She's going to go through some things." I imagine Zelensky wanted nothing to do with a hit job on Ukranian soil that he would then be blamed for.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
8. I think you're right.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:53 AM
Jan 2020

TRump, Inc. is Russian mafia and the rethugians know it. But rank & file rethugians voters will stay in denial.

Whiskeytide

(4,459 posts)
10. Agreed. I suspect that Ukrainian ...
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:11 PM
Jan 2020

... intelligence services or some other law enforcement agency was picking up intel on the scheme, and alerted the new president’s people.

But they would have had to contact someone in the US government with their concerns to get the extraction done. THAT person needs to speak up - unless, I guess, it might compromise their position.

But the more I think about it as I type this, maybe they have already. Could that be the actual whistleblower that got this ball rolling in the first place?

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
13. Hyde explicitly states that continued surveillance will be noticed in Ukraine
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jan 2020

That's what his people in Ukraine said to him: Shit or get off the pot. We can't keep up this surveillance without being noticed.

None of this is drunk talk, or fabulist talk. He had people there conducting surveillance who were themselves worried about counter-surveillance. It's beyond fucking belief.

KPN

(15,638 posts)
19. If this stuff is in fact true, that's exactly what this sounds like -- time to shit or get
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:56 PM
Jan 2020

off the pot. An apt observation and description.

Raven

(13,879 posts)
4. You are absolutely right. Someone knew. She had "heavy security" and was told to get out of the
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:02 AM
Jan 2020

country on the next flight. That's one hell of a way to lose your job!

bucolic_frolic

(43,066 posts)
5. I giant chess game is being played out
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:05 AM
Jan 2020

espionage and counterintelligence. They have cast a very big net this time.

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
9. Easier said than done,
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:06 PM
Jan 2020

Put yourself in that person or persons shoes. Coming out would take tremendous courage, it is darn scary to buck the Russian mob.

mopinko

(70,025 posts)
14. iirc, state dept docs were subpoenaed.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:26 PM
Jan 2020

am i wrong? maybe not subpoenaed, but certainly asked for and stonewalled.
you know there are emails.

 

blakstoneranger

(333 posts)
17. THEY ALL KNOW!!
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:50 PM
Jan 2020

Because they all helped or chipped in where they could. Doesn't matter to them because 1. It's for trump, and 2. It's against a democrat. This is why his base never falters to support him. They're cheering him on. Hillary was right a bunch of deplorable. Wow, the republicans must be really desparate to MAGA. It's all obama's fault.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Someone, somewhere, KNOWS...