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diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:08 PM Sep 2012

Don't want to be a soggy mop here BUT Romney and Super-pacs pulling out of serveral states

Doesn't that make anyone wonder what the HELL is going on?



I mean today we see ads --bascially money being pulled from PA, OH, MI, and WI. The election is basically 6 weeks--2 months away today and Romney and the GOP super-Pacs supposely raise all this money.


It does make one who likes to think wonder. Does this have anything to do with the cyber ransom? IS this Ransom the reason why Romney is "Taking a Vacation" from the Campaign. Remember Monday how the press pull was excused than called back to cover Romney driving a boat?


Believe it or not I do want to see Obama win but this makes this person who likes to think wondering what is going on.

SORRY FOR MIS-TYPING

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Don't want to be a soggy mop here BUT Romney and Super-pacs pulling out of serveral states (Original Post) diabeticman Sep 2012 OP
The election is two months away. nt Matt_in_STL Sep 2012 #1
YEAH SORRY THE FUCK I MISTYPE 6 weeks away 2 months is what wanted to type diabeticman Sep 2012 #15
Hey, no problems from me Matt_in_STL Sep 2012 #36
Thanks. It just amazing how many people here can't wait to make a person look so small diabeticman Sep 2012 #44
Relax. Seriously. Raine1967 Sep 2012 #50
"The election is basically 6 months away today." DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #2
YEAH SORRY THE FUCK I MISTYPE 6 weeks away 2 months is what wanted to type diabeticman Sep 2012 #19
Hi, there. Um, what? Habibi Sep 2012 #3
Fun Fact: we call it tinfoil, but it's actually aluminum cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #4
I'm not sure what elections you're talking about, Codeine Sep 2012 #5
YEAH SORRY THE FUCK I MISTYPE 6 weeks away 2 months is what wanted to type diabeticman Sep 2012 #20
Angry and illiterate is no way to go through life, son. nt Codeine Sep 2012 #25
Almost as bad as critical and petulant. LanternWaste Sep 2012 #46
YEAH SORRY THE FUCK I MISTYPE critical and petulant is what wanted to type Codeine Sep 2012 #48
lol. it's a tough crowd here I guess you know Whisp Sep 2012 #63
Super-pacs and the campaign abandoning the same states in a coordinated way? Blue Meany Sep 2012 #6
I'm not saying illegal! I'm saying something is up! diabeticman Sep 2012 #11
The election is 2 months away, but aside from that... immoderate Sep 2012 #7
George Romney should have pulled out 50 some years ago.... WCGreen Sep 2012 #26
I need that gif of Orson Welles slow-clapping. Chorophyll Sep 2012 #37
Yes! Though it was 64 years ago! treestar Sep 2012 #56
Actually the election is only 2 months away. FLyellowdog Sep 2012 #8
YEAH SORRY THE FUCK I MISTYPE 6 weeks away 2 months is what wanted to type diabeticman Sep 2012 #22
The election is six months away? Cali_Democrat Sep 2012 #9
Romney's polling #'s are most likely not going to improve in Michigan and Penn. Jennicut Sep 2012 #10
But that gets even curiouser...what state is looking more encouraging than before? CTyankee Sep 2012 #21
The idea is to spend more in, say, Florida cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #27
Hmm, do you think the federal judges decision had anything to do with it? CTyankee Sep 2012 #42
Um Robbins Sep 2012 #33
Thanks for the info. Jennicut Sep 2012 #45
why waste money on ads in states where you've fallen way behind? NightWatcher Sep 2012 #12
Tom, did you take another Ambien? CreekDog Sep 2012 #13
CORRECTION: Raine1967 Sep 2012 #51
mistook it for a viagra. n/t progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #53
You actually did make me laugh out loud! blue neen Sep 2012 #59
how do you *accidentally* take *half* an Ambien? CreekDog Sep 2012 #57
Do you have a link to something to back this up? drm604 Sep 2012 #14
It tells me that the Republicans don't actually have unlimited amounts of cash. gkhouston Sep 2012 #16
I think they know Romney is toast so they're gonna try to save the House catbyte Sep 2012 #17
if so, that's small comfort if it works...we get Obama and an intransigent congress again... CTyankee Sep 2012 #31
Except, by 2016... regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #41
which means we double down and push harder magical thyme Sep 2012 #52
how do we know if the coattails theory is going to work in some states/districts? CTyankee Sep 2012 #54
we need to push harder at all levels magical thyme Sep 2012 #60
We have a good blue state but I still worry about Linda McMahon. CTyankee Sep 2012 #61
as elections get closer, campaigns always pull out of areas where they can't win Fresh_Start Sep 2012 #18
My comment is what are they up to bkkyosemite Sep 2012 #23
No they will double down on the house and senate.... WCGreen Sep 2012 #29
Or the right voting machne software is now in place aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #34
There's something happening, I can feel it PearliePoo2 Sep 2012 #24
Interesting, these "independent" PACs All stop in 4 States at Once along with Mit... PuppyBismark Sep 2012 #28
Focusing down-ticket? get the red out Sep 2012 #30
I'm trying to use my head just as you asked Hutzpa Sep 2012 #32
I don't believe it, either... regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #35
This tells me one thing and one thing only. hifiguy Sep 2012 #38
what is "Internal Polling"? Is it what a campaign does separately? PearliePoo2 Sep 2012 #43
Yup. Campaigns have their own internal pollsters hifiguy Sep 2012 #47
Thanks for the concern budkin Sep 2012 #39
Ohio? Are you sure? RandySF Sep 2012 #40
why waste money? Shagman Sep 2012 #49
Maybe they're just funneling the funds directly to Romney's Swiss bank account??? cbdo2007 Sep 2012 #55
Maybe they're putting all that money into voter suppression ... ananda Sep 2012 #58
It means either they think they have those states in the bag, OR that they're lost causes... slackmaster Sep 2012 #62
Taking advertising out because those states are going to be stolen? northoftheborder Sep 2012 #64
 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
36. Hey, no problems from me
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:20 PM
Sep 2012

Just wanted to make sure you knew and had a chance to correct - that's why I didn't editorialize on it.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
44. Thanks. It just amazing how many people here can't wait to make a person look so small
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:26 PM
Sep 2012

and stupid on this board. I know people who have left this site because of this type of rudiness.

I couldn't correct this fast enough! NOW I'm being treated like a troll! I see why my wife won't post on this site anymore.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
4. Fun Fact: we call it tinfoil, but it's actually aluminum
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:10 PM
Sep 2012

But either way it helps keep your head warm in damp places, like under a bridge.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
5. I'm not sure what elections you're talking about,
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:11 PM
Sep 2012

but the election being dealt with here is a wee bit closer than six months.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
46. Almost as bad as critical and petulant.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:28 PM
Sep 2012

"Angry and illiterate is no way to go through life..."

Almost as bad as critical and petulant.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
63. lol. it's a tough crowd here I guess you know
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 04:08 PM
Sep 2012


and a whole lot of spelling nazi's and word police too

I'll probably get alerted for warning you.
 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
6. Super-pacs and the campaign abandoning the same states in a coordinated way?
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:12 PM
Sep 2012

Why that would illegal. I'm sure that couldn't be true. <sarcasm>

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
10. Romney's polling #'s are most likely not going to improve in Michigan and Penn.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:13 PM
Sep 2012

But the Gop Pacs have not pulled out from Ohio or Wisconsin yet. Romney has a ton of money but I doubt he will spend it where he thinks he can't win. PA and Mich have gone blue for awhile now anyway. Ohio #'s are not looking that great for him either. I don't believe in any conspiracies, it is just simple campaign logic. Spend money where it counts.

CTyankee

(63,771 posts)
21. But that gets even curiouser...what state is looking more encouraging than before?
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:17 PM
Sep 2012

has a blue state started to turn red? I'm not getting this...

CTyankee

(63,771 posts)
42. Hmm, do you think the federal judges decision had anything to do with it?
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:25 PM
Sep 2012

on edit: I see that there were two FL decisions that present some handwriting on the wall for voter suppression laws. And some decisions that are looming...

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/08/30/776491/courts-reject-gop-voter-suppression-overreach/

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
33. Um
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:20 PM
Sep 2012

Karl Rove is pulling ads from Ohio.Romney Is keeping ads In Ohio.

Superpacs are also pulling ads from Michigan and Pa.

Unknown If superpacs will continue In Wi

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
45. Thanks for the info.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:27 PM
Sep 2012

I guess it is worse then I thought. I do wonder if they will pull from Wisconsin soon.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
12. why waste money on ads in states where you've fallen way behind?
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:14 PM
Sep 2012

Save the money and spend it on states that are close and still in play.

blue neen

(12,308 posts)
59. You actually did make me laugh out loud!
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:54 PM
Sep 2012

I actually know a dude who took a mistook a Zoloft (the brand name Zoloft is a little blue pill, also) for a Viagra.

Um, he was quite disappointed!

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
16. It tells me that the Republicans don't actually have unlimited amounts of cash.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:15 PM
Sep 2012

Probably saving what they've got for October.

Interesting that this decision seems to coincide with a rather lackluster RNC.

catbyte

(34,174 posts)
17. I think they know Romney is toast so they're gonna try to save the House
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:15 PM
Sep 2012

That's what makes the most sense to me.

CTyankee

(63,771 posts)
31. if so, that's small comfort if it works...we get Obama and an intransigent congress again...
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:19 PM
Sep 2012

feels like a treadmill...

regnaD kciN

(26,035 posts)
41. Except, by 2016...
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:24 PM
Sep 2012

...Obama will have likely had the chance to fill at least two more SCOTUS seats...at least one of which will be from the "gang of four" (probably Scalia and/or Thomas).

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
52. which means we double down and push harder
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:37 PM
Sep 2012

to win a landslide and get broad enough coattails to hold or increase the senate and increase or even win back the house.

CTyankee

(63,771 posts)
54. how do we know if the coattails theory is going to work in some states/districts?
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:46 PM
Sep 2012

Is there some metric that is used?

CTyankee

(63,771 posts)
61. We have a good blue state but I still worry about Linda McMahon.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 04:06 PM
Sep 2012

Our Dem candidate has a slight lead over her but she has a boatload of money to spend. It's just hard for me to imagine Connecticut voters want wrestling lady as our U.S. Senator.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
18. as elections get closer, campaigns always pull out of areas where they can't win
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:16 PM
Sep 2012

to double up on others which they might be able to win

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
23. My comment is what are they up to
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:17 PM
Sep 2012

Maybe they are saving the millions for the last month or the last two weeks where air time is to be blocked and locked so much that Obama cannot get any air time. Hope not!

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
24. There's something happening, I can feel it
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:17 PM
Sep 2012

They say Mittens is studying for the debates. WTF? They're in October! He's laying low for some reason.
Then pulling their ads in ALL THESE STATES? And the "dip-shit duos" HOME states, no less!
WTF?
But there's all the fucking dirty money they have..I just don't get it.

PuppyBismark

(593 posts)
28. Interesting, these "independent" PACs All stop in 4 States at Once along with Mit...
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:18 PM
Sep 2012

Hmmmmmm. I thought the PACs were not supposed to be working in conjunction with the Candidate. This must just be a coincidence everyone stopped broadcasting adds in these states all in the same day.

get the red out

(13,459 posts)
30. Focusing down-ticket?
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:19 PM
Sep 2012

They may have decided to focus down-ticket in a lot of places. There are so many PAC ads running to try to oust our blue dog Democratic Congressman here in Kentucky's 6th that I can't stand to leave the sound on the TV during commercial breaks.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
32. I'm trying to use my head just as you asked
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:20 PM
Sep 2012

but when it comes to this guy and his queen, the devil in me wishes for all of the above, couldn't happen to a more nicer guy.

I want him so far away from that White House that typing it here alone does me no justice.

regnaD kciN

(26,035 posts)
35. I don't believe it, either...
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:20 PM
Sep 2012

This would essentially constitute conceding an election two months before it happens. No way would a campaign do so this early, even if they were looking at a potential landslide; to do so in a race thai remains practically tied is madness. The only way this makes sense is if it is either a temporary pullback before returning with a new set of ads, or they've got a new SuperPAC that's going to handle all the ads in those states for them.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
38. This tells me one thing and one thing only.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:21 PM
Sep 2012

Rmoney's internal polling numbers are very bad and trending worse in at least some of those states. Every national campaign makes its decisions regarding allocation of funds on the basis of internal numbers, not public polls in the media.

This is a definite retreat, and it looks like a retreat designed to stave off total disaster rather than for strategic reasons.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
43. what is "Internal Polling"? Is it what a campaign does separately?
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:25 PM
Sep 2012

Do they pay for a private company to do polling for them?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
47. Yup. Campaigns have their own internal pollsters
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:28 PM
Sep 2012

and have for quite some time. I remember reading that in 1980 Carter's pollster - Pat Caddell IIRC - told him on the weekend before the election that he was going to get beaten and the numbers were spot on.

RandySF

(57,659 posts)
40. Ohio? Are you sure?
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:23 PM
Sep 2012

I don't see anything on the innertubes about pulling out of Ohio. The next question I have is whether they are just pulling the ads or canceling air time as well? Campaigns need to have those spots reserved through the election by now.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
55. Maybe they're just funneling the funds directly to Romney's Swiss bank account???
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:48 PM
Sep 2012

Oops, did I say that out loud?? They're bringing in $100 Million per month but they're spending less than the Obama campaign. They knew Mitt would lose from the get go, so I'm starting to think this was all another money-making scheme for Romney and his boys.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
62. It means either they think they have those states in the bag, OR that they're lost causes...
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 04:07 PM
Sep 2012

...in which case the money will be redirected to swing states where they believe they still have a chance.

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