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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:18 AM Jan 2020

Trump Justice Department sues to seize private property for border-wall construction in Texas

Trump Justice Department sues to seize private property for border-wall construction

HOUSTON (AP) — Three years into Donald Trump’s presidency, the U.S. government is ramping up its efforts to seize private land in Texas to build a border wall.

Trump’s signature campaign promise has consistently faced political, legal, and environmental obstacles in Texas, which has the largest section of the U.S.-Mexico border, most of it without fencing. And much of the land along the Rio Grande, the river that forms the border in Texas, is privately held and environmentally sensitive.

Almost no land has been taken so far. But Department of Justice lawyers have filed three lawsuits this month seeking to take property from landowners. On Tuesday, lawyers moved to seize land in one case immediately before a scheduled court hearing in February.

The agency says it’s ready to file many more petitions to take private land in the coming weeks. While progress has lagged, the process of taking land under eminent domain is weighted heavily in the government’s favor.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-justice-department-sues-to-seize-private-property-for-border-wall-construction-2019-12-27

'm dreaming of a Blue Texas, just like the one I used to know
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Trump Justice Department sues to seize private property for border-wall construction in Texas (Original Post) crazytown Jan 2020 OP
K & R...for visibility... Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #1
Nobody... cannabis_flower Jan 2020 #8
You know, I've been troubled by Trump's withholding of aid PatrickforO Jan 2020 #11
In Trumps case Kaiserguy Jan 2020 #16
He's only president of Nazis and crazy religious fools. Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #22
You are 100% Kaiserguy Jan 2020 #34
It's Trump Bradical79 Jan 2020 #23
Yeah Bradical79 Jan 2020 #24
We don't need everyone to flip. Just a small 33taw Jan 2020 #25
Turnout makes a difference, though. yardwork Jan 2020 #26
Beto came very close Skittles Jan 2020 #35
Well, well, well. Newest Reality Jan 2020 #2
Trump's wall to cut through Texas resort and Golf course. crazytown Jan 2020 #3
Thanks for that one! Newest Reality Jan 2020 #4
Love that story. 😆 can't find the map I saw on one story. underpants Jan 2020 #9
WOW, IS HE THAT DESPERATE!! blakstoneranger Jan 2020 #5
Use this taking of private land issue against every republican running. keithbvadu2 Jan 2020 #6
Screw your base... Brilliant rickyhall Jan 2020 #7
Well, THAT is gonna make him wildly popular down there! PatrickforO Jan 2020 #10
Oh the irony, because New York is going to be needing to build something new at C Moon Jan 2020 #12
So how soon until Trumper's along the border panic about this? sakabatou Jan 2020 #13
Love the "I'm dreaming of a blue Texas...". I am surprised Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #14
I'm dreaming of a Blue Texas... cannabis_flower Jan 2020 #32
How is this possible without Congressional Authorization? maxsolomon Jan 2020 #15
Basically by just ignoring the law Bradical79 Jan 2020 #27
One would imagine that the seizures won't go as smoothly as they would maxsolomon Jan 2020 #29
Probably Bradical79 Jan 2020 #30
And all so that not fooled Jan 2020 #17
But please, all of you stupid victims, vote for me again. And by the way, did you need food stamps? Firestorm49 Jan 2020 #18
I think it would be great if the Democrats set aside say every Wednesday on the House schedule FOR.. usaf-vet Jan 2020 #19
Some of the most adamant repugs have land on the border. It's going efhmc Jan 2020 #20
Turn Texas Blue alfredo Jan 2020 #21
Nationalize Walmart and Amazon! moondust Jan 2020 #28
Texans are well-known for easily giving up on property disputes Recursion Jan 2020 #31
Really. where are your stats on that? This owner along with a whole crop of others just fought efhmc Jan 2020 #36
It was a joke. Texans are famous for the opposite (nt) Recursion Jan 2020 #37
I don't understand why DoJ thinks they have a case when this wall hasn't been approved by Karadeniz Jan 2020 #33

cannabis_flower

(3,768 posts)
8. Nobody...
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:35 PM
Jan 2020

in The Valley was going to vote for Trump anyway. At least not a majority. Picture is who voted for Trump in 2016.

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PatrickforO

(14,593 posts)
11. You know, I've been troubled by Trump's withholding of aid
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:44 PM
Jan 2020

to CA and Puerto Rico, too.

The guy just has to try and screw people who didn't vote for him.

How vindictive can a person be?

Farmer-Rick

(10,216 posts)
22. He's only president of Nazis and crazy religious fools.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 01:48 PM
Jan 2020

He's not president of average democracy loving Americans.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
23. It's Trump
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 02:06 PM
Jan 2020

Being vindictive and petty encompasses most of his life story. He's very predictable in that way.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
24. Yeah
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 02:08 PM
Jan 2020

The Trump voters who will be mad are just a very small number of Trump voting property owners that live right on the border. They aren't flipping anything.

yardwork

(61,715 posts)
26. Turnout makes a difference, though.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 02:20 PM
Jan 2020

If residents of the Democratic-leaning counties become very motivated to vote against Trump, that boost in turnout can make a huge difference statewide.

North Carolina has a Democratic governor right now because of voter turnout in traditional Democratic strongholds.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. Well, well, well.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:24 AM
Jan 2020

I imagine that the base voters there will be more than happy to give up some land for the cause.

Should I hold my breath waiting for the Land for Trump rally cry and cheers of support from them? Let's see, don't take my guns or my religion, but go ahead and take my land because, well, ah, the leader wants it for the Great Wall of Ignorance.

Loyalists must and should make any sacrifices for their leader. The leader is what is most important here, not what you sacrifice or what you don't get.

Well then, loyal supporters, on your knees! Give tithes of land to the Throne of Bogus. He has, (or will have) your back.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
4. Thanks for that one!
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:41 AM
Jan 2020

Well, I am so happy for them. It will be such a privilege for them to host one of the Great Works and the awe of being that close might be breathtaking.

Another man said, “None of us at our age need the additional stress,” but that doesn’t mean he won’t vote for Trump again in 2020.


Yes, by all means vote for him again. Voting against your best interests is just another form of self-destruction and one wonders if the self-hatred is that difficult to keep in check. It is too bad we have to all share that expression of Thantos. Taking us all down with you is the real problem here.

It's just the beginning of what needs to be given up. Blood is often required further on. Ask not, what your Trump can do for you, but what you can do for your Trump. Authoritarians give you such a sense of false security, but a big daddy can be comforting.

Oh, and seems that some of them will die for the wall considering the age and shape those folks are in. Do they get their names carved on it?
 

blakstoneranger

(333 posts)
5. WOW, IS HE THAT DESPERATE!!
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:22 PM
Jan 2020

He's already missed his self-imposed deadline. Now he wants to take peoples land for something we don't even need. A rationalization based on a politicized lie. if he hires contractors to build the border wall at $100 million, and the contractor brings in the build at say $30 million, what happens to the other $70 million? does it go back to the government or does it get kicked back to trump inc.? My point is that I believe he's stealing government money! Private companies do it all the time. The overcharge the government for everything and pocket the profits. Trump forced the pentagon to hire a contractor for the wall who is shady and a criminal. the pentagon warned trump this guy was crooked, but trump insisted that they give him the bid. Why?

PatrickforO

(14,593 posts)
10. Well, THAT is gonna make him wildly popular down there!
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:42 PM
Jan 2020

Do you ever wonder why they call the government taking land away from a private citizen by the term 'escheat?'

Because in this case Trump is CHEATING these people out of their land to waste our tax dollars on an utterly unnecessary wall.

Not only should this not be permitted, but all of the disgusting, illegal private for-profit concentration camps dotting our country to 'house' immigrants need to be SHUT DOWN.

C Moon

(12,221 posts)
12. Oh the irony, because New York is going to be needing to build something new at
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:51 PM
Jan 2020

1 Central Park West, New York, NY 10023

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
14. Love the "I'm dreaming of a blue Texas...". I am surprised
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jan 2020

Trump DOJ pushing this now. This will piss off a lot of people in Texas.

cannabis_flower

(3,768 posts)
32. I'm dreaming of a Blue Texas...
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 04:53 PM
Jan 2020

Just like the ones we used to know.

To the tune of White Christmas. Maybe someone can add a few lines.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
27. Basically by just ignoring the law
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 02:21 PM
Jan 2020

Trump found a loophole. Basicaly it's deciding a lot of the rules don't apply to him. He's been doing prep work for this for awhile now. People have stepped out of their homes to already find surveyors on their property, and he told his aides to just go ahead and seize the land illegally because he would just pardon them.

maxsolomon

(33,432 posts)
29. One would imagine that the seizures won't go as smoothly as they would
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jan 2020

If Congress authorized the project.

But I have no idea if we have an independent judiciary any longer.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
30. Probably
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 02:40 PM
Jan 2020

My gut feeling is that he won't fully commit to the more egregious crime of following through with illegal land seizures until he sees if GOP court packing results in a legal victory, and finds another scheme to get money from somewhere quickly. Until then, it will be more minor steps across that line.

not fooled

(5,803 posts)
17. And all so that
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 01:18 PM
Jan 2020

an ignorant asshole can con a bunch of ignorant maggots into thinking he is keeping brown people out.

Won't work, big waste of money. But who needs reality when you can dream of Big Daddy?




usaf-vet

(6,215 posts)
19. I think it would be great if the Democrats set aside say every Wednesday on the House schedule FOR..
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 01:35 PM
Jan 2020

.. follow-up impeachment hearings for the latest revelation in the news. A standing schedule from here until the Wednesday before the November election.

Just to let Trump know that this is not going away UNTIL he is out of office period.

The proverbial thorn in the side.

Of course that just my opinion of at least one way to continue to keep 45 in the news right up until election day 2020.

efhmc

(14,733 posts)
20. Some of the most adamant repugs have land on the border. It's going
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 01:43 PM
Jan 2020

to be so much fun to see how they react to this.

moondust

(20,016 posts)
28. Nationalize Walmart and Amazon!
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 02:28 PM
Jan 2020

Run 'em like a big not-for-profit PX system for the general public!

Seize them now! Seize them now! Seize them now! Seize them now!



I thought Republicans worshipped private property and HATED big gubment communism.

efhmc

(14,733 posts)
36. Really. where are your stats on that? This owner along with a whole crop of others just fought
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 01:41 AM
Jan 2020

the electric "company" from putting huge power lines through our property and won.

Karadeniz

(22,587 posts)
33. I don't understand why DoJ thinks they have a case when this wall hasn't been approved by
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 05:03 PM
Jan 2020

Congress and funds haven't been appropriated for it.

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