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Beringia

(4,324 posts)
1. He can't cut him loose I don't think
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 11:14 AM
Dec 2019


I don't think Putin necessarily wanted trump, I think he wants to disrupt and create chaos and weaken American democracy.

TheRealNorth

(9,514 posts)
2. When the Republicans figure a way to get out from under Putin's thumb
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 11:17 AM
Dec 2019

I.e. have enough of the system rigged so that they can't lose power, then they no longer will be afraid of what Putin has on Trump or the party.

Whiskeytide

(4,466 posts)
3. Cut him loose from what? Putin wants the US ...
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 11:18 AM
Dec 2019

... weakened on the world stage. trump has done that and will continue to do it as long as he is in office.

Putin wants domestic chaos, division and unrest in the US. trump has done that, and will continue to do it even out of office.

They are not actual buddies. trump may think they are, but Putin is just using trump as a tool for destruction.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
4. no reason to ever cut trump lose as for end game? HE already has acheived it and now enjoying
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 11:20 AM
Dec 2019

the victory laps

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
5. The goal is to get the sanctions lifted and destabilize the West.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 11:29 AM
Dec 2019

I don't think that he gives up, until the sanctions are lifted.

crickets

(26,012 posts)
14. This and destroying the US politically from within for as long as he can...
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 12:24 PM
Dec 2019

But getting the sanctions lifted so he can get to the money opportunities on the other side is the real prize.

Firestorm49

(4,045 posts)
7. What's Putin's end game?
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 11:41 AM
Dec 2019

Just look around. Look at Spain, Italy, England, Austria, most of South America, the good old US of A. This trend is no accident, and it looks like Putin is winning. End game? King of the planet.

 

mylightningtoo

(58 posts)
8. At the end of the Trump presidency, I can see putin
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 11:52 AM
Dec 2019

openly expressing how corrupt Trump was and how the Democratic party was right. A total mindf*** for the Trump base and the seeds for even more discord and chaos.

 

mylightningtoo

(58 posts)
10. I work at Fort Bragg, NC;
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 11:59 AM
Dec 2019

A Trump nut came into my office and told me things were going to "get crazy come six o'clock this afternoon," meaning after the impeachment vote.

Xolodno

(6,428 posts)
12. It depends.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 12:15 PM
Dec 2019

Trump loses re-election...he could spill the beans then, it would really hammer it across the world that corruption has taken root in the USA. And the incoming D President is going to have their work cut out for them both domestically and internationally.

If he wins re-election, anytime Putin no longer finds any use for him.

Then the x factor, they could have enough on everyone to keep their operation going after Dump is dumped.

Beringia

(4,324 posts)
13. There is also is the law of unintended consequences
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 12:22 PM
Dec 2019

Maybe the democracy will be strengthened. The constitution will be tested.
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