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(4,324 posts)I don't think Putin necessarily wanted trump, I think he wants to disrupt and create chaos and weaken American democracy.
TheRealNorth
(9,514 posts)I.e. have enough of the system rigged so that they can't lose power, then they no longer will be afraid of what Putin has on Trump or the party.
Whiskeytide
(4,466 posts)... weakened on the world stage. trump has done that and will continue to do it as long as he is in office.
Putin wants domestic chaos, division and unrest in the US. trump has done that, and will continue to do it even out of office.
They are not actual buddies. trump may think they are, but Putin is just using trump as a tool for destruction.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)the victory laps
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)I don't think that he gives up, until the sanctions are lifted.
crickets
(26,012 posts)But getting the sanctions lifted so he can get to the money opportunities on the other side is the real prize.
dchill
(38,681 posts)Firestorm49
(4,045 posts)Just look around. Look at Spain, Italy, England, Austria, most of South America, the good old US of A. This trend is no accident, and it looks like Putin is winning. End game? King of the planet.
mylightningtoo
(58 posts)openly expressing how corrupt Trump was and how the Democratic party was right. A total mindf*** for the Trump base and the seeds for even more discord and chaos.
CanonRay
(14,181 posts)We're close...
mylightningtoo
(58 posts)A Trump nut came into my office and told me things were going to "get crazy come six o'clock this afternoon," meaning after the impeachment vote.
CanonRay
(14,181 posts)but who knows.
eShirl
(18,517 posts)not much downside for him
Xolodno
(6,428 posts)Trump loses re-election...he could spill the beans then, it would really hammer it across the world that corruption has taken root in the USA. And the incoming D President is going to have their work cut out for them both domestically and internationally.
If he wins re-election, anytime Putin no longer finds any use for him.
Then the x factor, they could have enough on everyone to keep their operation going after Dump is dumped.
Beringia
(4,324 posts)Maybe the democracy will be strengthened. The constitution will be tested.
Voltaire2
(13,463 posts)Lead of course by Russia. No need to cut Trump loose at all.