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Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:16 PM

I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars

A state with 35 million people, a state consistently held hostage by states with a 16th of our population. States that have a negative contribution to the federal government. This country is NOT theirs. It is ours, I am really friggin tired of the lowest common denominator calling the shots that are dismantling democracy and celebrating stupidity. /rant

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Reply I am so tired of living in a state that contributes a lot of Federal dollars (Original post)
onecaliberal Dec 2019 OP
Skittles Dec 2019 #1
onecaliberal Dec 2019 #3
Skittles Dec 2019 #29
onecaliberal Dec 2019 #31
fleabiscuit Dec 2019 #28
mopinko Dec 2019 #34
madville Dec 2019 #2
onecaliberal Dec 2019 #4
madville Dec 2019 #6
onecaliberal Dec 2019 #7
UniteFightBack Dec 2019 #38
juxtaposed Dec 2019 #5
Pepsidog Dec 2019 #17
TheBlackAdder Dec 2019 #20
doc03 Dec 2019 #8
stopbush Dec 2019 #9
onecaliberal Dec 2019 #11
progressoid Dec 2019 #18
stopbush Dec 2019 #24
Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #27
denbot Dec 2019 #12
roamer65 Dec 2019 #10
Pepsidog Dec 2019 #16
Tipperary Dec 2019 #22
onecaliberal Dec 2019 #23
Pepsidog Dec 2019 #25
TruckFump Dec 2019 #13
BigmanPigman Dec 2019 #14
The Wizard Dec 2019 #19
Pepsidog Dec 2019 #15
Karadeniz Dec 2019 #21
RandySF Dec 2019 #26
roamer65 Dec 2019 #35
Garrett78 Dec 2019 #36
roamer65 Dec 2019 #37
Lady_Chat Dec 2019 #30
onecaliberal Dec 2019 #32
CreekDog Dec 2019 #33

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:24 PM

1. America *IS* theirs

it's just that it should be no more THEIRS than it is OURS......I agree, it is ridiculously unbalanced. For example, the Electoral College had its place back in the day but now with the internet, it should be POPULAR VOTE ONLY.....it is backfiring and giving us NITWIT "presidents"

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Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:43 PM

3. Their country is one who defers to russia over American intel, one who locks brown children

In cages. One that celebrates bigotry, hatred and stupidity. A country that bans Muslims from entering. One that highly desires a monarch who is not subject to laws and does not value anything but his own desires. One who ďinvestigatesĒ political opposition.
With all due respect, itís not a place I call America. The founders would not recognize this place.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:35 AM

29. you're lumping everyone living in red states

it's not that simple

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Response to Skittles (Reply #29)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:39 AM

31. I never said it was simple, only that I am completely over it.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:29 AM

28. Would be appropriate to allocate senators by population as well. nt

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Response to fleabiscuit (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 09:46 AM

34. yeah, tempting fix. like- allocate a 3rd senator to the 10 most populace states.

 

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:27 PM

2. The House decides where to appropriate federal tax dollars

Are you saying federal income tax dollars collected from individual US citizens in a rich populous state shouldnít be redistributed to less populated and poorer states for the greater overall good of all citizens?

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Response to madville (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:45 PM

4. Please tell me where I said tax dollars should not be redistributed?

Iíll wait.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:53 PM

6. Every US citizen has equal claim to this country

Why would citizens in poor, less populous states not have any say in what happens with the federal tax dollars they have equal claim to?

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Response to madville (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:55 PM

7. They shouldn't have MORE say than people in populous states. But they DO.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 07:35 PM

38. +1000

 

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Response to madville (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:45 PM

5. I think one could say you reap what you sow. If you are a state such as Alabama and your state

 

government brainwashed you into voting against your best interest because of freedom and liberty. ect,ect.

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Response to juxtaposed (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:56 PM

17. Yup. Let them live in the America they profess to love and see how they like it.

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Response to madville (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 12:13 AM

20. When those states decry the poor for not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, yes!

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I'm from the #1 donor state, where the adjusted poverty line is nearing $28K a year.

We give $32 Billion in taxes to other states, which is more than our state's budget. No other state does that.

Our roads are getting shitty, we have pockets of extreme poverty and areas that we need to bolster, but those billions are going elsewhere, to other states who punish the poor, cut their funding, yet look for those federal socialist dollars, all while aggressively fighting programs that might benefit other states or other populations.

They are greedy motherfuckers who justify taking government socialism because it's coming from liberals.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:00 PM

8. There was quote from U. S. Grant in the book A Warning. I gave the book to someone

else to read so I don't know it word for word. Grant said if we ever have another civil war it would be between the
informed intelligent people and the ignorant.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:05 PM

9. California is not currently a donor state.

Last edited Sat Dec 14, 2019, 01:01 AM - Edit history (1)

Edit: CAís balance of payments is +$12.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:59 PM

18. Depends on where you get your data.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 12:59 AM

24. Nope. My info is from 2019. Yours is from 2017.

We get back a whole $12 more than we pay out. Not much, but not a donor state at this time.

A few years ago we were getting only 74Ę back out of every $1 we paid to the feds. Things have improved a bit.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/donor-states/

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Response to stopbush (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:09 AM

27. +10

 

Thanks for the info! I will try to stay on top of this so I don't continue repeating false info.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:06 PM

12. Bullshit.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:12 PM

10. We need a Transfer Payment Equalization Act.

States are only allotted the exact amount they send in as federal receipts.

States like Tennessee and Florida will then have to enact income taxes, just like the other states.

The only exception would be emergency funding.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:52 PM

16. Exactly. I'm tired of carrying these Ass backwards states.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 12:27 AM

22. Oh my goodness.

I love these posts where people feel so superior to others. You do know there are Dems in every state, right?

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Response to Tipperary (Reply #22)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 12:50 AM

23. I want equal representation. No state should have more representation than another.

As it stands now, small states have FAR more representation than more populous states.

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Response to Tipperary (Reply #22)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:03 AM

25. Yes I know there are Dems in these states. I guess there were anti-Nazis in Germany as well but I

look back at Nazi Germany with hatred. Iím sure there are Republicans who hate Trump but who cares, I canít stand Republicans. I can say, I do feel sad for people who live in these ass backwards states who are Dems. I live in NJ a solid Dem State but my district is a solid R district and I hate my ass backward district, but like the Dems in my district. I see nothing inconsistent or wrong with that. I hate West Virginia, Kansas etc. but feel sorry for Des who live there. But we live with our choices. I live in a R district so I live with those consequences. And yes I have zero doubt that I am superior to those traitors who vote republican where ever they live. Some of my family are Republicans and they are ignorant tools and I am superior to them in every way. I can hate a red state but that doesnít mean I hate Dems who live there. Letís cut this political correctness shit. Our country is at risk. I am an equal opportunity hater of Republicans, I hate them everywhere and will fight them to my dying breathe.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:19 PM

13. California?

I know how you feel.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:45 PM

14. Abolish the Electoral College!

Abolish the Electoral College is dedicated to mobilizing supporters who want to end this antiquated and unjust system.

https://go.abolishtheelectoralcollegepac.org/

One person, one vote.

The person with the most votes wins an election.

These seem like simple and fundamental statements. But two of the last three presidents were elected despite losing the popular vote. We must abolish this relic to prevent Donald Trump or anyone like him from taking power again.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 12:13 AM

19. Hitler took power

with a minority vote. This will turn out bad.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:50 PM

15. Great Post. Absolutely spot on. I'm sick of it as well.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 12:24 AM

21. The heavily populated states need more house seats...flush electoral college.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:08 AM

26. BEAR FLAG REPUBLIC

Who's with me?

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Response to RandySF (Reply #26)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 07:14 PM

35. If you go, then we are joining the Canadian confederation.

Michigan has more in common with Ontario than it does with Alabama or Texas.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #26)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 07:20 PM

36. Let's invite Oregon, Washington, Hawaii and British Columbia to join us.

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Response to Garrett78 (Reply #36)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 07:24 PM

37. British Columbia would be a Canadian matter.

I donít see them walking away from the Canadian confederation unless Alberta leaves.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:38 AM

30. Thank you! I'm sick and tired of it too.

They complain about wanting the Federal government out of their lives, welfare cheats, immigrants, then take Federal money with both hands. Is it that they don't really know what's going on, or they just plain dishonest. I'm hoping after the 2020 election, the donor states get together and call it what it is, they are living off us. I remember when Rick Perry was calling for secession and all I was hoping for, was that it would happen, let them take care of their own, they never want to help anyone else. Donor states need their own money to take care of their larger populations.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:46 AM

32. Back to 1848?

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 04:33 AM

33. NOT 35 million, nearly 40 million!



2019 population estimate for California is 39.75 million.

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