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Jerry Nadler's taken a lot of hits on DU for not being as smooth and crisp as Adam Schiff (Original Post) StarfishSaver Dec 2019 OP
I like the guy. pwb Dec 2019 #1
It takes a lot of self control to listen to Republican denial and hypocrisy and not lose it. gordianot Dec 2019 #2
Collins needs a punch. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2019 #19
Even laughing at them is a breach of House rules. gordianot Dec 2019 #26
Really? Cracklin Charlie Dec 2019 #27
They need to drop the Gentlemen and Gentlewomen for "not so gentle assholes". gordianot Dec 2019 #53
He played their game last night RockaFowler Dec 2019 #3
LA Times has a great picture of Nadler waiting out Hortensis Dec 2019 #4
Collins has that Southern Baptist preacher face on Lars39 Dec 2019 #6
It's my favorite picture ever of You're-Going-To-Hell-Collins, Hortensis Dec 2019 #8
Jesus strikes again. safeinOhio Dec 2019 #13
Collins' look (as typical of RW evangos) makes me think he is on the toilet, NCjack Dec 2019 #18
.... CatWoman Dec 2019 #20
Love it gopiscrap Dec 2019 #30
A keeper. dalton99a Dec 2019 #34
Mr. Nadler is awesome. saidsimplesimon Dec 2019 #39
He looks like one of those guys Bob Loblaw Dec 2019 #47
This is a meme waiting to happen Aviation Pro Dec 2019 #21
that is beautiful! Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #59
WOUld be a good ad for any dem pangaia Dec 2019 #41
He is not in the most robust of health Maeve Dec 2019 #5
We were classmates in High School, I don't remember him being as heavy as he was.... George II Dec 2019 #24
Thank you Maeve saidsimplesimon Dec 2019 #25
Check out photos of him during the Clinton impeachment DFW Dec 2019 #36
May he rise above his physical limitations, saidsimplesimon Dec 2019 #42
I think he looks less effective Bettie Dec 2019 #7
The Republicans on Judiciary are different than those on Intelligence StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #10
That is true and they are also just ramping up the Bettie Dec 2019 #12
You and Bettie both make a good point. crickets Dec 2019 #28
Interesting, thank you chia Dec 2019 #58
Definitely agree. flor-de-jasmim Dec 2019 #9
Agreed! nt crickets Dec 2019 #29
+1,000 malaise Dec 2019 #11
I think Swallwell is the future PCIntern Dec 2019 #14
WaterMan also likes him malaise Dec 2019 #15
If there is a future RVN VET71 Dec 2019 #16
This Made Me Very Very Sad McKim Dec 2019 #32
I share your "Sad". saidsimplesimon Dec 2019 #37
Creeps be Gone forever!! marieo1 Dec 2019 #44
Agree. cwydro Dec 2019 #17
Yes indeed he is! I was a little worried that he was slowing down..... George II Dec 2019 #22
I liked Nadler before the hearings, and I like him even more now. Mersky Dec 2019 #23
He Has His Own Style McKim Dec 2019 #31
Yesss I love Rep Nadler Rene Dec 2019 #33
Different Style marieo1 Dec 2019 #35
I heard much handwringing about Nadler BlueIdaho Dec 2019 #38
I agree completely. But: any accusations of objectivity on my part are without foundation DFW Dec 2019 #40
Cool. Which one are you? StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #45
I'll give you a hint DFW Dec 2019 #54
Lol! Well if you put it that way ... StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #55
There was a LOT of candlepower there that evening DFW Dec 2019 #57
Really appreciate this post. Mike 03 Dec 2019 #43
I had to remind people a few times that there's much more to being a committee chairman than having StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #46
I appreciate him, immensely Baked Potato Dec 2019 #48
Jerry Nadler's a good man. A great progressive. I'm happy with the job he's doing, including as KPN Dec 2019 #49
Critics who want to feel superior tend lunatica Dec 2019 #50
Not from me. Nadler knows his stuff and He is good. riversedge Dec 2019 #51
i like him! I thought he did a great job. hes not steely cold like Adam but I sure.. samnsara Dec 2019 #52
A difference of style and appearance is not a deficit HAB911 Dec 2019 #56
the whole team! ... Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #60
I give Jerry Nadler a great deal of respect. He sits between Nunes and Collins with a gavel Alwaysna Dec 2019 #61
Good job wryter2000 Dec 2019 #62
Trump hasn't even given Nadler a childish nickname flibbitygiblets Dec 2019 #63
Both of them FeelingBlue Dec 2019 #64
Stop bashing our great dem leaders!! Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #65

gordianot

(15,234 posts)
2. It takes a lot of self control to listen to Republican denial and hypocrisy and not lose it.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 08:57 AM
Dec 2019

Anyone who can show that much self control should be lauded. To merely be in the same room with Gohmert deserves a medal for self control.

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
3. He played their game last night
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 08:59 AM
Dec 2019

He let them get all of their whining out and then he sprung it on them.

Collins can sure dish it out but he can't take it.

And they say women are emotional!!

Lars39

(26,107 posts)
6. Collins has that Southern Baptist preacher face on
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:16 AM
Dec 2019

Sure to stoke Trump’s base.
Nadler has extreme patience.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. It's my favorite picture ever of You're-Going-To-Hell-Collins,
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:39 AM
Dec 2019

as we refer to Pastor Collins, and Nadler is the very picture of someone wishing the Angel of Death would hurry up and take him.

safeinOhio

(32,641 posts)
13. Jesus strikes again.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:03 AM
Dec 2019

Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they shall be satisfied.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
18. Collins' look (as typical of RW evangos) makes me think he is on the toilet,
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:42 AM
Dec 2019

determined to force out a turd with a diameter 2X that of his anus.

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)
47. He looks like one of those guys
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:55 PM
Dec 2019

who is trying to get people to send money to him so Jaysus will save their soul.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
41. WOUld be a good ad for any dem
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:38 PM
Dec 2019

"Here you have, on the left, a Democrat. On the right, a Republican."

Take your pick and vote.

Maeve

(42,271 posts)
5. He is not in the most robust of health
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:05 AM
Dec 2019

He's 71, and has suffered from obesity much of his life (he lost 100 since surgery in 2003, if I remember correctly). But he's a good man doing a difficult job.

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. We were classmates in High School, I don't remember him being as heavy as he was....
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:02 AM
Dec 2019

....years ago. But he's lost a lot judging by some of the videos we've seen of him the last week or so.

I don't know where he gets the energy, I'm only about 150 and I don't know if I could have kept the schedule he has this week.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
25. Thank you Maeve
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:14 AM
Dec 2019

I have not followed Representative Nadler's personal struggles with obesity. He is to be admired for standing up and getting the vote done.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
36. Check out photos of him during the Clinton impeachment
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:33 PM
Dec 2019

He was pretty bloated. Jerry will be the first one to tell you how necessary the surgery was.

Bettie

(16,078 posts)
7. I think he looks less effective
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:21 AM
Dec 2019

because the desperation level of the Republicans has ratcheted up and they are so far off the rails they can no longer even see them.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
10. The Republicans on Judiciary are different than those on Intelligence
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:51 AM
Dec 2019

Less serious, more partisan, much more prone to showboating and hysterics. They're more difficult to manage. Nadler's dealing with a considerably more corrigible group than Schiff is, so he comes off as less effective.

Bettie

(16,078 posts)
12. That is true and they are also just ramping up the
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:55 AM
Dec 2019

hysteria in any case.

I can't imagine how stupid someone would have to be to watch them and say "YES! That's the behavior I love to see in my elected representatives!".

crickets

(25,952 posts)
28. You and Bettie both make a good point.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:39 AM
Dec 2019

There's much less discipline among the Judiciary Repubs. Almost all of them turned up the angry rhetoric to 11. Yikes, I don't know how any of the Majority got through it without a mute button.

flor-de-jasmim

(2,125 posts)
9. Definitely agree.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:45 AM
Dec 2019

Sorry, Chairman Nadler. I admit to having had some doubts, but you have proven me wrong.

I listened to TOO MANY hours of the proceedings yesterday. I am proud of all of our Democratic representatives, who spoke with clarity, coherence and eloquence.

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
16. If there is a future
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:32 AM
Dec 2019

it will be led by Swalwell and people of his calibre.

But it's kind of a big "if".

Boris Johnson just won a landslide victory in the U.K., and it makes me wonder how much certainty any of us can have about Trump in 2020. Everyone here knows what a monster Trump is and I pray we're not alone, a choir singing to itself. But It looked, didn't it, like Johnson was going down? Like the good and wise and well informed and thoughtful voters of the U.K. would vote his sad and saggy are out of government? When push came to shove, they voted to keep him rather than to risk a change that might well have been the last chance to save the U.K. from coming apart at the seams.

So, yep, I'm feeling way out of sorts this morning and may be hitting my Guinness Stout before, during, and after lunch.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
32. This Made Me Very Very Sad
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:53 AM
Dec 2019

I still have trouble believing that Brits voted themselves out of better public transportation, free university education, help for families caring for their elderly and all the goodies they were offered. Instead they chose to isolate on their island and enjoy the buffoon clown show. Johnson is right out of the British Vaudeville tradition!!!!!

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
44. Creeps be Gone forever!!
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:42 PM
Dec 2019

Oh, boy.............I couldn't believe it when I read Boris Johnson won!!! I thought he was out for good!! It makes me wonder if the same people that wanted our dingbat DJT in office helped Johnson win. We will never know the circumstances behind both of these idiots getting elected (maybe Russia). I just hope the sane people in the USA will get rid of all these creeps at least in the USA!! Go Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Pelosi, Swalwell and the rest will continue to fight for us!!

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. Yes indeed he is! I was a little worried that he was slowing down.....
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:53 AM
Dec 2019

.....after one of the hearings of a month or so ago where he seemed a little flustered a couple of times.

He has been spectacular last week and this week. Yes, he's a badass, just ignoring most of the crap the republicans have been throwing at him Wednesday night and today.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
23. I liked Nadler before the hearings, and I like him even more now.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:02 AM
Dec 2019

He's pretty freakin' good at staying on tip through all the republicans' shenanigans. I like his serious thoughtfulness, as opposed to the repugs uniform insincerity and open betrayal of their oath.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
31. He Has His Own Style
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:50 AM
Dec 2019

He has his own style, old school honest, integrity, grit and not tolerating BS. We have been way too influenced by advertising and looksism. I don’t care about personality or like-ability but for substance. Don’t get caught up with personality.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
35. Different Style
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:33 PM
Dec 2019

I like Jerry Nadler a lot. He is doing a great job. He just has a different style than Adam Schiff but is doing a great job!!

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
38. I heard much handwringing about Nadler
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:35 PM
Dec 2019

DU, yes - but more from the M$M. I thought he was masterful - especially his “surprise” gaveling last night. I thought the high profile Trump bootlickers were going to shit a brick.

Well done Congressman, well done.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
40. I agree completely. But: any accusations of objectivity on my part are without foundation
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:37 PM
Dec 2019

I've known Jerry for years, so don't bother accusing me of having bias. I'll save you the trouble: I confess.

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DFW

(54,302 posts)
54. I'll give you a hint
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 02:16 PM
Dec 2019

I am not the editor of The Nation (Katrina is). I was never head of Planned Parenthood (Cecile was). And...I am definitely not Jerry.

so, by process of elimination.................

DFW

(54,302 posts)
57. There was a LOT of candlepower there that evening
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 03:02 PM
Dec 2019

I usually can never make these things, as I usually can't go running over to North America every time someone wants to celebrate something. But this one time, it was in Washington, and I WAS going to be in Washington that day. The weekly that Katrina edits, The Nation, is the country's oldest continually published political magazine, and she knows EVERYBODY. The Nation was founded right after Lincoln's assassination in 1865.

My brother drove. He, my wife and I got there early. Katrina greeted us at the door, and I figured, this being Washington, maybe a few other people I knew or recognized might show up. A few???? I turned out to be one of the token nobodies invited. Mostly, there were somebodies!

Here is a partial list I remember off the top of my head: E.J Dionne, Eleanor Clift, Dennis Kucinich, Raúl Grijalva, Elizabeth Warren, Jerry, Rev. William Barber, Cecile, Stephanie Schriock, John Nichols. Give me some time, and I might remember the rest. My coolest accomplishment that night was asking Rev. Barber if he had been approached to speak at the Democratic Convention the next year (2016). He said he had not. I asked him if he'd be willing, and he said he'd be honored. I contacted a friend who was DNC treasurer, and the next thing I knew, Barber was going to be speaking at the Convention!

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
43. Really appreciate this post.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:41 PM
Dec 2019

Some of that criticism of Nadler rubbed me the wrong way. They all can't be Adam Schiff. But each of our Dems has certain gifts and strengths and they are all working around the clock and deserve our gratitude. They've accomplished an incredible amount in a short period of time. The immense stress has probably (hopefully not) taken a few years off of their lives.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
46. I had to remind people a few times that there's much more to being a committee chairman than having
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:51 PM
Dec 2019

press conferences and presiding over high profile hearings. Schiff is outstanding but Nadler is also one of the best. That's why Pelosi put him there.

He got a bad rap, but the last few days, he's shown us why he's there.

KPN

(15,638 posts)
49. Jerry Nadler's a good man. A great progressive. I'm happy with the job he's doing, including as
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:16 PM
Dec 2019

chair of the House Judicial Committee.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
50. Critics who want to feel superior tend
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:29 PM
Dec 2019

to think everything is some sort of competition where people’s differences are seen as making them losers and/or winners in some game in which the critics are the arbitrators. Someone must always end up at the top and someone must always end up at the bottom of the game. Critics actually think they’re of such high caliber themselves that they can stand in judgement of people who are much better than they are.

It’s quite tiresome.

Unfortunately it’s an American pastime.

samnsara

(17,606 posts)
52. i like him! I thought he did a great job. hes not steely cold like Adam but I sure..
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:33 PM
Dec 2019

...wouldnt want him cross with me.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,271 posts)
60. the whole team! ...
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 03:52 PM
Dec 2019

I couldn't sit there as they did, responding to disinformation and distraction, over and over, with facts. They did it for hours!

Alwaysna

(574 posts)
61. I give Jerry Nadler a great deal of respect. He sits between Nunes and Collins with a gavel
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:09 PM
Dec 2019

And hasn't popped either one on the noggin.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
62. Good job
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:50 PM
Dec 2019

You could tell how frustrated the Republicans were, especially when he ended things suddenly last night. He ended their nonsense after giving them enough time to demonstrate what assholes they were being.

I wish all of them would lose their seats next year. I never want to see some of their faces or hear their voices ever again.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
63. Trump hasn't even given Nadler a childish nickname
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 07:02 PM
Dec 2019

Sad-ler perhaps? Bad-ler? Stark raving Mad-ler?

100's of tweets in the past day alone, and no dumb nicknames? Maybe Dump's in a coma and has his ghost-tweeters on duty?

FeelingBlue

(676 posts)
64. Both of them
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 02:11 AM
Dec 2019

Demonstrated enormous discipline and self control. I could not have tolerated the nonsense that the Republicans threw at him.

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