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ancianita

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Tue Dec 10, 2019, 08:37 PM Dec 2019

When Donny Met Sergey

Last edited Tue Dec 10, 2019, 10:32 PM - Edit history (1)

The Lavrov who Trump met today:

1. An old friend of Putin who appears in American news as the Russian Federation's Russian Foreign Minister.

2. The Foreign Minister who, since 2011, defends the innocence of Russian society by promoting Russia's stand against homosexuality.

3. ...who in March 2014, before his name appeared in America, stated that Ukraine's Maidan revolution in Kyiv, AND results of the Crimean referendum, should both be accepted equally by The West. He reiterated the three-part Russian proposal for the progress of Ukraine:

-- Constitutional federalism
-- Recognition of linguistic minorities, Ukrainians as much as Russians
-- That Ukraine be a non-aligned state

The Kyiv government immediately denounced Lavrov's proposals as amounting to “the complete capitulation of Ukraine, its dismemberment, and the destruction of Ukrainian statehood.

4. Who, when Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down over Ukraine, parroted the Kremlin media perception managers’ denials, stories and lies about Ukrainian fighters and air traffic controllers.

5. Who repeats the Eurasian “model of unification” that invites former satellites and EU members, to “preserving and extending a common cultural … civilizational heritage" under the structure of Eurasia.

6. Who promotes the the RF's official Foreign Policy Concept for 2013 — that if Ukraine wished to negotiate to enter the EU, it should accept Moscow as its intermediary.

7. Who claimed, as reports of Russian units circled Ukraine soldiers, “We view all such stories of the presence of Russian troops as part of an information war.” He called photographs of Russian soldiers “images from computer games.”

That Lavrov met Trump, the Lavrov who agrees with the Kremlin's asset, that the truth is not the truth, and what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what is happening.

What Lavrov said to Trump:

1. Sergey congratulated Donald on his future Senate Trial acquittal; that together they succeeded in handling enough senators who continue to “meet" their Fifth Column goals.

2. Sergey informed Donald that, barring any anti-hacker project successes by the U.S., he is set to win again through the Electoral College.

3. Sergey assured Donald that, in the event that 2020 polls show a massive anti-Trump voter swell,

A. the Eurasian project has a list of “national emergency” options Trump might use, contingent on “openings” of emerging national import," and defendable "active measures" that a president can use to keep order nationwide.

B. in service of the "national emergency" goals, the project is set to use hybrid propaganda warfare
-- on the nets
— through news reports,
-- social media,
-- the usual alt-right sites,
-- from all the usual American farms

— by whatever perception management best meets US media's and Trump's needs of being seen as as truthful, in good faith, and hopeful of resolution.

4. Sergey assured Donald that, moving forward, all the usual communications systems, along with the usual codes, are still in effect until he's told otherwise, in person, by the usual suspects.

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I offer the second list because there truly is no evidence to the contrary.

We're moving into historically unknown territory, so I'd like to keep thinking the following:

Russia believes in the politics of its eternity and inevitability.

Americans believe in the Western politics of freedom based on real perception, on facts, on reality, choices and action.

In the next week we enter a tunnel we wanted to get to. Happily, there's still light for awhile. Great that we're celebrating.

As we move through 2020, as that tunnel gets darker, we need to stay committed to the proposition that not all roads, ever in our lives, will ever have to lead, inevitably, to Putin or Eurasia. Ever.










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