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https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/giulianis-new-20-year-old-spokeswoman-has-a-shady-resume-and-links-to-ukraine-henchmen/President Donald Trumps allies are still trying to figure out why Rudy Giuliani hired a 20-year-old Instagram personality as his director of communications.
The presidents personal attorney travels everywhere, including Ukraine, with Christianné Allen, a former teenage Trump campaign volunteer who has served since September as his media strategist and technology consultant, reported Politico.
Nobody can figure out who the eff she is or how she got in there, a friend of Giuliani told the websites Daniel Lippman.
Old pervert is 50+ years her senior.
rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)wryter2000
(46,023 posts)Doesnt mean she wants any part of him
marble falls
(57,015 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,488 posts)One never knows in the bizarro world of Rudy and tRump.......
brush
(53,745 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)And we scratch our heads when the Rethugs say they can't see anything wrong with Dupmy's phone call to Zelensky. Really, guys?
LastDemocratInSC
(3,646 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,169 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...and the assumption is that because she is young and female that she is not qualified for the job and therefore it must be something sexual?
Is that where DU is these days?
So this is true whenever a young woman is hired for something, yes? Or are there some rules around knowing when a young woman is, or is not, to be assumed to be providing sexual favors for her employer?
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)who had enormous talent. I've known none who were ready to lead in a situation with difficult communications and PR challenges. Talent is potential, not readiness. Giuliani is in a tight spot that is likely to get even tighter. He, himself, is a very poor communicator who often says exactly the wrong thing that hurts, rather than helps him.
Being an Instagram personality and a graduate of a right-wing Christian college are not qualifications to represent anyone facing a large-scale international publicity and legal challenge. Not a chance.
And yet, Rudy Giuliani has hired this young person to head his public communications. That might be an indication of his poor judgment, which we see evidence of constantly. However, he is also a public person of considerable experience with the vagaries of dealing with the media, which can sometimes be quite hostile.
So, why did he hire this young woman? I do not have any idea. I would not hire anyone with as little experience as she possesses for any such position. I might hire someone in that situation as an assistant to someone with great credibility and broad-based media contacts, but only as an assistant, rather than in a leadership position.
Think about it.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)It doesn't mean that all of the young women with these jobs are sleeping with the boss.
The accusation directed at this particular young women is offensive and sexist.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)to second the idea that she is probably a poor choice. I have no idea what Giuliani's thinking was when he hired her.
I'm not even interested in sexual dalliances between adults, even young adults. It doesn't matter to me. I do find the hiring of eminently unqualified people to jobs that seem to be important to be unusual and puzzling. Poor judgement on the parts of people who are in the midst of difficult situations seems odd to me.
So, if Giuliani hired her because of her looks or some other factor, that would make it less surprising than if he hired her because he thought she was fully qualified for the position, which she patently is not. The media will devour her like a small snack at a cocktail party. So, if I actually think about why she was hired, I think that the silly fantasies of an old man make more sense than any serious reasoning about hiring a PR troubleshooter. Clearly the latter is not the case.
But, none of that matters to me. She's an adult. He's an adult. It's none of my business.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)When I was working as a journalist for a major computer magazine, I dealt with PR people all the time, since one of my specialties was product reviews. Typically, I would be contacted initially by a young, early 20s, PR representative, almost always a woman, who was charged with influencing me in my review. My wife, who is also a computer journalist, normally had a nice-looking young man assigned to her when she was doing reviews.
That trick never worked, because I was very serious about doing straight reviews, based on the merits or lack of same for those products. That's why I was hired by that publication. I had a track record of honest, hard-hitting reviewing that paid no attention to the size of the company or its public relations.
At that time, I was a 35-year-old guy. I had so many eyes batted at me, flirtatious comments made toward me, and even a couple of outright propositions from those PR people that I stopped dealing with them altogether, and insisted on having a senior person at the PR firm do all of the interacting with me. I had work to do, was a happily married man, and had no time for such nonsense. Once I established that with the PR firms, I no longer had to deal with inexperienced, if enthusiastic, junior PR reps.
It is such a commonplace strategy in the public relations business that it is the stuff of jokes that everyone recognizes. Sex sells, so there's a helluva lot of sexual innuendo and flirtation going on between PR people and journalists. Sadly, some journalists fall for it and get themselves in a pile of trouble. But, such tactics are used because they work in many cases.
I don't know that young woman Giuliani hired. I recognize her smile, though, as the standard PR rep smile. It's also the cheerleader smile, and PR firms often hire junior reps who were cheerleaders. It's fascinating.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I don't know what is her job description or the scope of her responsibilities.
If the job involves managing social media presence, and not necessarily dealing with content, then a 20 year old is probably the right person for the job AFAIK.
Or, sure, it could be a do-nothing job that is a return favor for some other sort of patronage involving her sponsor - be it her educational institution, a well-connected parent, or whatever. But even those sorts of things do not imply that the young lady is exchanging sexual favors for whatever position she has.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)She's traveling with him. Sounds a more important job than just handling social media to me. I have no idea what Ghouliani does on social media, and I'm not going to investigate that.
But, of course I don't know the scope of her responsibilities. How would I? Apparently, neither do Giuliani's friends, according to that article.
Why would a social media manager travel to Ukraine with him? I don't remember seeing any social media content about that trip.
It's, you know, a mystery, isn't it?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)so, a typical Trump republican - compromised
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Wicked good skills.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)chowder66
(9,055 posts)The whole article is worth a read. Too much to chose from to point out how much of a grifter/liar she is. The girl has issues.
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During one appearance at a Moms 4 Trump event in October 2016 at the Trump hotel in D.C., Allen gave a speech about how she had been hounded out of high school due to controversy over my Trump internship.
In a video of her speech, Allen described telling her principal, counselors and friends about her decision to support Trump. And I cant even begin to tell you, the controversy that got stirred up, and the hate that was sent my way, not just through social media, but through--just
She trailed off for several seconds. It was really hard for me, especially when all of your friends just dropped out of your life, all at once.
But asked if anti-Trump bullying was a major factor in her leaving her high school, her father said: I dont think so. Shes a fighter.
[On social media] she would counter everybody that was negative towards Trump. Did she run from it? No. But she got fed up with it.
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I never heard of any anti-Trump bullying or political bullying of any kind for that matter at Allens high school, Clover Hill, said Becky Conner, whose son Evan was a classmate of Allens and was her partner in drivers ed. Conner also said that Evan didnt remember her ever complaining about being bullied. A spokesman for the school district didnt respond to requests for comment.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/10/christianne-allen-giuliani-079762