****Impeachment thread # 6****

[BumRushDaShow]

[BumRushDaShow]

1. Lieu done. Tom McClintock (R-CA) talking loud and saying nothing

except whining about process. And he's done.

[BumRushDaShow]

2. McClintock done. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) up

[BumRushDaShow]

3. Raskin: 17 witnesses came forward to testify despite threats - with 4 of them on the NSC

Mentioning that his father was on the NSC under President Kennedy.

[Mc Mike]

119. Interesting.

I saw Marcus Raskin speak once, & got to ask him a question in a seminar setting, ~'87.

[BumRushDaShow]

120. Jamie Raskin is a true treasure!

He is also a member of the House Rules Committee and I watched him in action when they were first marking up what became H. Res 660 - the rules for the impeachment inquiry and hearings - and he systematically torpedoed the idiotic GOP talking points that attempted to scuttle the rules markup and provided teaching moments on what they were doing and why!

[Mc Mike]

121. He's a great Congressman. I just never knew he was related to Marcus.

We have so many great Congresspeople on our side.

[BumRushDaShow]

123. I noticed that MD does that-

like the Sarbanes. Everytime I would hear that last name I kept thinking of Paul Sarbanes (who has been retired for awhile now) and they were talking about his son John who is in the House!!

[Mc Mike]

125. Good family.

[BumRushDaShow]

4. Raskin emphasizing how much stuff has not been given to the Committee

including copies of the memos and notes...

[BumRushDaShow]

5. Raskin done. Debbie Lesko (R-AZ) up

[crickets]

8. Debbie Lesko muted.

I'm not tired of the impeachment hearings themselves, Debbie, just the Repub obfuscation and windbaggery. My sympathies to Goldman, and even Castor. This has been a long day.

[BumRushDaShow]

12. Her voice was annoying

And yup - Castor was already looking whipped an hour ago.

[Mersky]

13. I started to snark back at her, but her empty, feigning concern

Is so misdirected from reality and good governance, that I just couldn’t.

[BumRushDaShow]

6. Back to the Bidens

[hibbing]

7. Burisma, Hunter Biden, Burisma, Hunter Biden

This will be their whole playbook if Biden gets the nomination.

Peace

[BumRushDaShow]

9. Castor oil had to clarify that there was no "WH"meeting

that was promised - it was a sideline meetings.

[BumRushDaShow]

10. Lesko done. Pramila Jayapal (D-WA) up

[H2O Man]

11. She is wonderful.

Much respect.

[LisaM]

14. She's my rep!

She's done a great job; I'm proud to be represented by her.

[BumRushDaShow]

15. Jayapal walking through the sequence how the actions were related to when Biden announced

he was running.

[BumRushDaShow]

16. Jayapal done. Guy Reschenthaler (R-PA) up

What an idiot.

[Mersky]

17. Direct evidence quote: "the pResident doesn't give a bleep about Ukraine"

Goldman answering with the quote back to Jayapal

[BumRushDaShow]

18. Reschenthaler - "far left radical agenda"

[IcyPeas]

19. right, let's talk about the deficit

[crickets]

23. The party of fiscal responsibility blows up the budget

and wrecks the economy every time. It gets harder and harder to clean up the mess each cycle.

[hibbing]

20. Reschenthaler

Good lord PA, this is the best and brightest? Now he's on to the same talking points, they sure stick to them. "Facts"= Flat out lies, I just feel beat down today...ugh.

Peace

[Mersky]

21. Hehhh, blankets vs. javelins have already been fully covered, retchinhaler

Trained brigades, humvees, drones, NATO readiness is a good bit more than blankets

[BumRushDaShow]

22. Back to the whistleblower

[BumRushDaShow]

24. Reschenthaler done. Val Demmings (D-FL) up - Correcting the record again.

[crickets]

25. Part of Repub strategy is making sure Dems have to spend some of their time,

over and over again, to correct the record. It's intentional.

[BumRushDaShow]

27. Yup - but at least we get it out there.

[crickets]

31. True. Looking at it that way, the repetition of the corrections could backfire on them. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

26. Demmings going through the timeline about the holding of the military aid

releasing the money 2 days after the media reports, congressional investigations, and whistleblower complaint.

Aid was released after President was caught.

[BumRushDaShow]

28. Demmings done. Lou Correa (D-CA) up.

[BumRushDaShow]

29. Correa emphasizing how the WH has been blocking submission of copies of witness notes

[dweller]

30. who is the Chairperson now

in place of Nadler?

tia

✌🏼

[Mersky]

32. I believe it's Scanlon

[BumRushDaShow]

34. Yes - she is Vice-Chair of the Committee

[Mersky]

35. Cool, & cool.

[BumRushDaShow]

37. One of my sisters is in her district and she was just elected in 2018

so she is new!

[BumRushDaShow]

33. Correa going through the witness reactions to the conditions being placed to release aid

which would be the definition of quid pro quo despite insisting there was no such.

[BumRushDaShow]

36. Scanlon brushed idiot aside for a unanimous request and has started her questions

(she is Vice Chair and moving the hearing along in place of Nadler)

[crickets]

42. "I recognize myself for five minutes."

Glorious! Nadler has been so-so in disciplining the Repubs. Scanlon is just not even having it, just moving right on without even entertaining the BS. I love it!

That was the best quiet bomblet of the day.

[BumRushDaShow]

46. They know that they can run all over Nadler

but people like Schiff and Scanlon ain't having it!

[BumRushDaShow]

38. Goldman - Zelensky an "extortion victim"

[Arkansas Granny]

39. I've just been able to watch bits here and there. Where is Nadler?

Oh, there he is.

[BumRushDaShow]

40. Scanlon done. Nadler back - Biggs trying to put something in record.

[BumRushDaShow]

41. Ben Cline (R-VA) up.

[Mersky]

43. Goldman answered to Scanlon about Vindman's explanation

About how, because of the power disparity between the US and Ukraine, that a request from the pResident actually falls as a demand; Zelensky couldn’t say no.

And further adding pressure to that disparity is that Ukraine has been at war with Russia since 2014.

[BumRushDaShow]

44. Castor oil obfuscating about "hearsay".

[crickets]

51. Of course. Goldman just cleared up the matter a second ago. Castor has to muddy it again.

Then it will have to be clarified again. Lather. Rinse. Repeat. Somebody posted that this is like a really bad volleyball game. It's kinda true.

[BumRushDaShow]

54. Yup - and he even cited how they do it in court - something the GOP keeps trying to do

when certain of that doesn't apply to Congress.

[IcyPeas]

45. has Ukraine received ALL the money?

I thought they had not. I thought some was still owed?

If so, how come no one brings that up?

[BumRushDaShow]

49. I think they ended up reprogramming some if it so it can carry over into another fiscal year

("multi-year" )

[IcyPeas]

98. Goldman just cleared that up.

you are right.

[BumRushDaShow]

102. Yup - heard him confirm that.

They had waited until a couple weeks before the end of the fiscal year (which is an insane time as it is) to try to obligate all the funds and they couldn't, so Congress had to reprogram it so that it could cross FYs.

[BumRushDaShow]

47. Cline done. Sylvia Garcia (D-TX) up.

[elleng]

48. Glad to hear a real discussion explaining hearsay, from Ms. Garcia (a former judge)

and Mr. Goldman.

[BumRushDaShow]

50. Garcia stepping through what is "direct evidence" & establishing what was presented was not hearsay

[crickets]

53. +1

[BumRushDaShow]

52. Garcia done. Joe Neguse (D-CO) up

[BumRushDaShow]

55. Neguse is forcing Castor to admit that the CT of Ukraine involved in election interference is BULL

[elleng]

57. YES,

GOOD WORK!

[crickets]

62. The fact that he had to is disgraceful.

But I love how Neguse asks each one the same question in turn and makes Castro agree each time - Castro's only alternative being to lie outright. Fantastic work.

[uponit7771]

56. Mr Neguese is whoopin azz !!! VERY VERY good yes no questions !!

[BumRushDaShow]

58. Neguse reiterating Fiona Hill saying that the CT about Ukraine is Russian propaganda

[BumRushDaShow]

59. Neguse done. Greg Steube (R-FL) up and impugning Berke

[The_Counsel]

60. Just Wondering...

Why doesn’t the majority members ask Castor any questions? Seems they could easily expose as the legal idiot he is, que no?

In fact, why won’t the minority ask Goldman anything? If there are really any facts to defend, you’d think they’d get more heat by attacking him, no?

This is so confusing...

[BumRushDaShow]

61. OMG someone vandalized Steube's Wikipedia page!!

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Greg Steube
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Member of the U.S. House of Representatives
from Florida's 17th district
Incumbent
Assumed office
January 3, 2019
Preceded by Tom Rooney
Member of the Florida Senate
from the 23rd district
In office
November 8, 2016 – November 6, 2018
Preceded by Redistricted
Succeeded by Joe Gruters
Member of the Florida House of Representatives
In office
November 2, 2010 – November 8, 2016
Preceded by Ron Reagan
Succeeded by Joe Gruters
Constituency 67th district (2010–2012)
73rd district (2012–2016)
Personal details
Born William Gregory Steube

May 19, 1978 (age 41)
Bradenton, Florida, U.S.
Political party Republican
Spouse(s) Jennifer Steube
Children 1
Education University of Florida (BS, JD)
Website House website

William Gregory Steube[1] (born May 19, 1978) is an American Republican traitor from Florida who has been serving as the U.S. Representative from Florida's 17th congressional district since January 3, 2019. Prior to his election to Congress, he served as a member of the Florida Senate for two years, representing Sarasota County and western Charlotte County. He previously served three terms in the Florida House of Representatives, representing the Sarasota-Manatee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Steube

[Mersky]

63. That's right, castor. In a nutshell, we just don't like tRump because of his actions, vulgarity,

willful stupidity, shallowness, spoiled brattiness, basic cruelty, stupid cruelty, overly-architected cruelty, tweeting habit, violent invectives against people like me, intimidation of good people, wastefulness, wasteful cheating lying ways, cruelty to kids, pocket lining tweeting, abusing power, aligning with dictators, did I mention the tweeting, more tweeting, earth killing flushes, grabbing women and flags, vulgar gross boundless appetite, misappropriating taxpayer money for his personal gain, selling off the future for another fast food banquet photo op for tweeting, selling offices to diminish the American people’s outlook, constant tweeting, and the cruelty of caging kids.

[BumRushDaShow]

64. Steube done. Biggs trying to put something into the record - Votes apparently coming up

[rzemanfl]

66. I have a motion to insert for you asshat.

Figure out where and how deep, you Repuke piece of shit.

[BumRushDaShow]

67. ...

[The_Counsel]

72. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[crickets]

69. It's a Politico article - one repeating the conspiracy.

[BumRushDaShow]

65. Lucy McBath (D-GA) up - bringing up Drumpf witness intimidation

[backtoblue]

68. Just catching up. Thanks everyone!

[BumRushDaShow]

70. McBath emphasizing civil servants "doing their duty" yet being attacked by the President

[BumRushDaShow]

71. McBath done. Greg Stanton (D-AZ)

Clarifying that they GOP had EQUAL access to question all witnesses and all docs and to bring their own witnesses in and refused.

[crickets]

77. Stanton pushing back against all of the process complaints Minority has made

- the rules have been around for prior hearings (e.g. Benghazi) and are not new
- equal time given to both Minority and Majority for all procedures
- good reasons for closed sessions before the open hearings (keeping witnesses from coordinating their stories)
- president has not been shut out of participation - he's refused to participate or provide any documents
- witnesses have been blocked from testifying and/or been refused documents needed for testimony = attempted coverup to keep the people from learning the truth.

Good job!

[BumRushDaShow]

73. Stanton - President has ignored 70 requests for documents and witnesses

and more than a dozen members of the administration refused to appear.

[uponit7771]

79. +1

[BumRushDaShow]

74. Stanton done. Madaleine Dean (D-PA) up.

[BumRushDaShow]

75. Dean is pointing out the non-cooperation by Drumpf is unprecedented in history

[BumRushDaShow]

76. Dean pointing out the McGahn case in court to compel testimony that has taken months

[crickets]

83. Pushback against the not holding witnesses in contempt for refusing to show up complaint.

Dems can't be blamed for not wanting to get on the delay it in court merry-go-round.

[uponit7771]

88. +1, there has to be means not to allow a president to time out their crimes like Trump is trying to

... do.

[crickets]

92. Exactly! nt

[BumRushDaShow]

78. Sheila Jackson-Lee - adding info to record.

[BumRushDaShow]

80. Kelly Armgstrong (R-ND) up

[BumRushDaShow]

81. Castor Oil has thrown Sondland under the bus

with his "everyone is in the loop" comment.

[uponit7771]

84. +1, "... that emails doesn't mean everyone is in the loop ..." lofl, everyone's name is on it and th

... that must mean they don't know a damn thing

[crickets]

90. but they have secretaries to filter that sort of thing...? That was bizarre.

[uponit7771]

95. +1, all those secretaries are under the bus now

[uponit7771]

82. OMFG !! So an email with everyone's freakin name on it means that everyone is... NOT... in the loop?

LOFL !!!

[BumRushDaShow]

85. Castor now talking about the CNN interview - claiming it was fuzzy

yet we know Fareed Zakaria has come out to describe exactly what was to happen.

[uponit7771]

86. Castor: ... that it was decided Zel was going to do a CNN interview about Biden is an amorphus fact

[BumRushDaShow]

87. Armstrong done. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell (D-FL) up

[BumRushDaShow]

89. Mucarsel-Powell - showing pattern of invitations to foreign countries to interfere in elections

[Mersky]

91. Mucarsel-Powell pointing that election interference

Is the biggest national security threat in this whole mess, and when on to attest that her state, Florida, was a victim of Russian meddling in 2016.

[BumRushDaShow]

93. Mucarsel-Powell ended waving Constitution. GYMSUIT entered stuff in record.

[BumRushDaShow]

94. Veronica Escobar (D-TX) up

[crickets]

109. Escobar calls out authoritarian behavior in BIG way.

"The continuing pattern of behavior we have seen from this president should be a warning to the American people. It is a beginning of a dictatorship, which I have seen in Latin America. I have witnessed men in office abuse the power, inviting foreign interference and also obstructing any checks on their power. :gavel in bg: The Constitution :holds up copy: has no partisan allegiance. We cannot allow this behavior from this president :gavel continues: or any future president. :more gavel: Our democracy depends on it."

Wow. That was powerful. If you didn't see or hear it in real time, find a video clip.

[BumRushDaShow]

96. Escobar insisting that Ukraine KNEW the aid was being withhold despite GOP assertions.

[BumRushDaShow]

97. Escobar had Goldman explain that Congress had to pass legislation to reprogram money for Ukraine

due to the holdup that would have the money expire and be returned to the Treasury if the legislation had not been passed.

[IcyPeas]

101. that's what I was wondering.

[BumRushDaShow]

99. Escobar playing clips of the legal witnesses describing the need for impeachment.

[BumRushDaShow]

100. CLOSING STATEMENTS - GOP FIRST

[dem4decades]

103. My TV will probably mute itself next time Collins is on. It's a smart TV.

[BumRushDaShow]

105. LOL - this is almost done...

[Maru Kitteh]

104. Does Doug Collins ever speak English?

[dweller]

108. oh thank you PBS

i'm watching real time and collins is caught in a feedback loop


✌🏼

[Mersky]

106. Raskin entered a correction into the record regarding Elijah Cummings

First hearing as Chairman of the Ways and Means committee of the new Congressional session as being about prescription drug pricing.



(I am still mourning Elijah Cummings)

[BumRushDaShow]

107. Collins done. NADLER UP - CLOSING STATEMENT.

[BumRushDaShow]

110. Nadler ticking off the list of facts (that "we know" )

[BumRushDaShow]

111. HEARING ADJOURNED.

[IcyPeas]

112. thank you BumRushDaShow

[BumRushDaShow]

113. And thank you and everyone else for the reparte and getting the info out for DU!!!

[Kurt V.]

114. thanks

[BumRushDaShow]

115. You are welcome!

[malaise]

122. All these threads should be bookmarked

Great historical record

[BumRushDaShow]

124. It would be because the last time this happened

DU wasn't around yet.

[Mersky]

116. Thank you, BumRushDaShow

Was rough for me, as I bet it was for many DUers, and I thank you for pulling so much of the weight throughout the day.

[BumRushDaShow]

117. You are welcome

I guess it helps to have a shared yelling-at-the-screen experience every time the GOP starts talking.

[Mersky]

118. Want and need to witness this stuff for myself

And document the turns of it. The republicans are just so bad in putting forth logical defenses that there’s little way I can take them seriously, if I am to try to listen to them all day. Jeers/jabs of truth, and hopefully helpful observations is what I’ve got to share. Can’t help it - would rather be in the conversation than not.

So, yeah, can yell at them, together.

Anyways, thanks again for being in here!