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Tweet of the Day (Original Post) RandySF Dec 2019 OP
It's wonderful. I think men should be banned from any form of power. erronis Dec 2019 #1
Wait! We don't know that would work any better.... albacore Dec 2019 #2
Such a trial period would be inconclusive . . . Journeyman Dec 2019 #3
I always say that women could run on this slogan.... albacore Dec 2019 #5
I've had an equal number of male/female deplorable bosses DemocracyMouse Dec 2019 #15
there are definitely women that are terrible bosses NewJeffCT Dec 2019 #35
Um...Donald Trump? robbob Dec 2019 #36
we know he's a terrible person NewJeffCT Dec 2019 #37
You forget about some of the "usual" suspects: CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #39
There are a few anomalies. GoneOffShore Dec 2019 #4
Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #6
Add. Finland is the happiest country in the world.... albacore Dec 2019 #7
Well, yeah Cartoonist Dec 2019 #9
Which leads to all those paradoxical decisions that bedevil us in modern society negromiconomics Dec 2019 #12
Well don't tell Nancy and Hillary that. flying_wahini Dec 2019 #13
- Pacifist Patriot Dec 2019 #20
Ouch! As a perimenopausal woman, that hurts! Pacifist Patriot Dec 2019 #19
I'm 76. Women of 50 or 60 are young to me. I probably have SOCKS older than you... albacore Dec 2019 #23
Sorry, but your initial premise is simply wrong.. whathehell Dec 2019 #34
So now Trump is thinking with his prostate? CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #40
Lol..Is that because it's scientifically sound? whathehell Dec 2019 #32
Ignorance of this kind causes me psychological pain. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2019 #33
Ab za lutely! whathehell Dec 2019 #47
Man-splain much? whathehell Dec 2019 #31
Well said, gentle soul and brother of mine . PWPippinesq Dec 2019 #8
Agreed. We've not shown ourselves up to the task. yonder Dec 2019 #16
Not every man is a piece of crap, we have Jimmy Carter as an example Perseus Dec 2019 #29
You have three Democrats in there. geardaddy Dec 2019 #38
No, I think it's legit because of the question at the end. CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #41
Ah, ok geardaddy Dec 2019 #43
Maybe the poster doesn't like those three for whatever reason. CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #44
Yeah, maybe geardaddy Dec 2019 #45
All the men are out raking the forest. keithbvadu2 Dec 2019 #10
! nt eppur_se_muova Dec 2019 #17
Good to see shared leadership SOMEWHERE in the world. negromiconomics Dec 2019 #11
Only one of those women is old enough to be president of the US. Jim__ Dec 2019 #14
You could half the age of the youngest yonder Dec 2019 #18
and there you have it......... a kennedy Dec 2019 #21
A very advanced society. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #22
Amen!!!!!!!! pazzyanne Dec 2019 #24
isnt marriage optional there? I saw a short of Finland..i was so impressed. samnsara Dec 2019 #27
I'm not sure what you mean. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #28
Not so much an inherent gender difference as... Pacifist Patriot Dec 2019 #48
Excellent! calimary Dec 2019 #25
trying to figure out how to pack up my 4 dogs and 40 yrs worth of crap and move there! samnsara Dec 2019 #26
What the hell is the Swedes for Finland party? 3Hotdogs Dec 2019 #30
Update From Scandanavia: BobTheSubgenius Dec 2019 #42
cool!! subana Dec 2019 #46

erronis

(15,170 posts)
1. It's wonderful. I think men should be banned from any form of power.
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 02:29 PM
Dec 2019

Being an XY myself with loads of daughters, sisters, aunts, grand-daughters.

Women seem to have a much better sense of how to make this planet livable and our lives enjoyable.

albacore

(2,398 posts)
2. Wait! We don't know that would work any better....
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 03:11 PM
Dec 2019

Let's just give it trial run. Say....couple of hundred years??

Then we can decide who runs things better.

That's fair.

albacore

(2,398 posts)
5. I always say that women could run on this slogan....
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 03:32 PM
Dec 2019

"Hey... we couldn't possibly fuck things up any worse than men have."

(Full disclosure: Women like Joanie Ernst and Sarah Palin weaken the argument, but the women in charge would have to weed such creatures out of politics.)

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
15. I've had an equal number of male/female deplorable bosses
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 04:44 PM
Dec 2019

Everybody settle down. Humans are equally messed up.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
35. there are definitely women that are terrible bosses
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 11:22 AM
Dec 2019

as well as men, but I can't recall any stories about male candidates yelling and/or being demanding of staff like we have had with Amy Klobuchar earlier this year and Kamala Harris recently.



NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
37. we know he's a terrible person
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 11:40 AM
Dec 2019

but, almost any story about Trump gets lost in the maelstrom of endless scandals and corruption.

did we get any of those stories about Obama, Clinton or Edwards in 2008, or McCain and the other Republicans running at that time? Or, in 2012 among Republican primary participants?

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
39. You forget about some of the "usual" suspects:
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:00 PM
Dec 2019

Sarah Palin
Michele Bachmann
Marsha Blackburn
Virginia Foxx
That witch from Delaware (and so on and so on)

It's more than just gender. This involves aptitude and psychological testing that's usually reserved for mass murderers and others who wear their underwear over their pants.

And then we have DeVos, Haley, Nielsen, and more notorious GOP cabinet roaches from modern history. Add the former governor of Oklahoma who wanted to kill all minority prisoners.

And on top of that...oh, you get the idea. Never trust ANYONE running as a Republican. They're insane.

GoneOffShore

(17,336 posts)
4. There are a few anomalies.
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 03:27 PM
Dec 2019

Marine Le Pen, Margaret Thatcher, Eva Peron, Elena Ceaușescu. And I'm on the fence about Indira Gandhi and Golda Mehir.

Response to GoneOffShore (Reply #4)

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
9. Well, yeah
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 04:12 PM
Dec 2019

I'd be happy to watch those beautiful ladies debate. Then I'd be happy to vote for one of them.

negromiconomics

(20 posts)
12. Which leads to all those paradoxical decisions that bedevil us in modern society
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 04:30 PM
Dec 2019

All those young women may bias decisions based around the safety of children which could mean negotiating for order with outside forces who may at any time choose not to honor that agreement. Even in a world with 100% women you would always be at the mercy of the most unruly and least agreeable. Of course their numbers would be a distinct minority but it is the paradox that governs our lives today in a world governed by men who poorly juggle an unpredictable cocktail of abstract reason, targeted theft, and overwhelming violence!

Pacifist Patriot

(24,652 posts)
19. Ouch! As a perimenopausal woman, that hurts!
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 06:38 PM
Dec 2019

Thatcher was appointed Secretary of State for Education and Science by Heath in his 70-74 government. She would have been 45, which is statistically pre-menopause.

Eva Peron was 33 when she died and a first lady, not a politician.

Marine Le Pen is my age and I am not post menopause. When she ran for president in 2017, it was unlikely she was post menopausal.

Yes, I know your post is "slight hyperbole," but tread lightly here please.

This undercuts the truly post menopausal liberal women like Warren, Pelosi, and Clinton who are phenomenal leaders in a democratic society.

I don't disagree that younger women make wonderful leaders, representatives, and decision makers. Goodness knows I favor way more women in power than currently are. Way more! I adore AOC for example.

Please tread lightly on the age thing though. Even in gest that's a sticky wicket.

Cheers!

albacore

(2,398 posts)
23. I'm 76. Women of 50 or 60 are young to me. I probably have SOCKS older than you...
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 11:40 PM
Dec 2019

And I'm painting with a broad brush. Warren has been my first choice, and Clinton got my vote.
But...
It's time for new, young blood. Maybe not this time in the Presidential race, but soon. Very soon.
And it should include more young women.

whathehell

(29,026 posts)
34. Sorry, but your initial premise is simply wrong..
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 11:18 AM
Dec 2019

Women's abilities are no more 'hormonally determined' than those of men, who, by the way, lose their testosterone as they age.

whathehell

(29,026 posts)
32. Lol..Is that because it's scientifically sound?
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 10:52 AM
Dec 2019

You must be kidding.. That doesn't "hurt" this postmenopausal woman...Apart from its blatant Ageism and Sexism, It only leaves me aghast at its ignorance..Do we really need to mention that women do not "think" with their ovaries?

whathehell

(29,026 posts)
31. Man-splain much?
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 10:28 AM
Dec 2019

So older women aren't "estrogen-rich" enough to make the "better" decisions regarding children and the poor"?.. Women are "hormonally determined"? Wow..Would that be your scientifically "educated" response, lol?

Hint:. The fact that men often seem to think with their dicks doesn't mean we women think with our ovaries.

PWPippinesq

(195 posts)
8. Well said, gentle soul and brother of mine .
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 04:01 PM
Dec 2019

I doubt you thought that during your early years under the thumb of one particular older sister. You've evolved so nicely

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
29. Not every man is a piece of crap, we have Jimmy Carter as an example
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 08:47 AM
Dec 2019

And there have been many. Take the republican men out of the picture and you see a different landscape.

Now, lets look at the republican women:
AK U.S. Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R)
AZ U.S. Sen. Martha McSally (R)
IA U.S. Sen. Joni Ernst (R)
ME U.S. Sen. Susan Collins (R)
MS U.S. Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R)
NE U.S. Sen. Deb Fischer (R)
TN U.S. Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R)
WA U.S. Sen. Maria Cantwell (D)
WA U.S. Sen. Patty Murray (D)
WI U.S. Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D)
AL U.S. Rep. 002 Martha Roby (R)
AS U.S. Del. AL Amata Radewagen (R)
IN U.S. Rep. 002 Jackie Walorski (R)
MO U.S. Rep. 002 Ann Wagner (R)
NC U.S. Rep. 005 Virginia Foxx (R)
021 Elise Stefanik (R)
PR U.S. Del. AL Jenniffer Gonzalez (R)
012 Kay Granger (R)
003 Jaime Herrera Beutler (R)
005 Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R)
WV U.S. Rep. 003 Carol Miller (R)
WY U.S. Rep. AL Liz Cheney (R)

Tell me, which of those women listed above would you like to be President?

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
38. You have three Democrats in there.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 11:41 AM
Dec 2019

WA U.S. Sen. Maria Cantwell (D)
WA U.S. Sen. Patty Murray (D)
WI U.S. Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D)



Maybe it was a copy and paste error.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
41. No, I think it's legit because of the question at the end.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:14 PM
Dec 2019

They were pointing out the three stable women vs the psycho/sociopaths out there. It was a study in contrast.

I don't mind sharing that I've always voted for Baldwin at the state level and I will until she turns 96 (or however old she is when she retires).

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
43. Ah, ok
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:25 PM
Dec 2019

Thanks for the clarification.

But why only those three? There are a total 17 women currently serving in the US Senate who are Democrats.

And Perseus said: "Now, lets look at the republican women:"

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
44. Maybe the poster doesn't like those three for whatever reason.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:32 PM
Dec 2019

I'm familiar with my senator and Patty Murray, but Cantwell isn't an attention getter, so I have no opinion of her. I'm assuming the intelligent voters of Washington state know what they're doing.

negromiconomics

(20 posts)
11. Good to see shared leadership SOMEWHERE in the world.
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 04:20 PM
Dec 2019

A wonderful time and place for female leadership but I'm guessing they're not exactly trash talking Putin any more than Trump is!!!! Nor are they immune from the pressures being faced by the Baltic States or Ukraine.

a kennedy

(29,606 posts)
21. and there you have it.........
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 06:56 PM
Dec 2019

if Hillary would have been elected, she would have been a perfect complement to the world.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. A very advanced society.
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 07:22 PM
Dec 2019

They have a very high standard of living compared to us. I really think that having more women in office is the best thing for every nation. They aren't as self serving as men and they understand the concept of service to their constituents.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
28. I'm not sure what you mean.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 08:25 AM
Dec 2019

Isn't it optional in most places in the world? I think they are like most Scandinavians (although they are not technically Scandinavian) in that they are much more accepting of single parenthood. Maybe that is what you are referring to?

Pacifist Patriot

(24,652 posts)
48. Not so much an inherent gender difference as...
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 09:07 PM
Dec 2019

a conditioned one.

Girls are often raised with the implicit expectation of serving others. Nurturence behavior is praised while controlling behavior is condemned. Walk the toy aisle and there you have it.

Yes, it has gotten better since I was a child in the 70s and 80s, but still there.

Oddly, the way we condition females in societal child-rearing can make for excellent leaders on the global stage. Liberals see that. But that's a side effect, not the original intent. Hmm.

samnsara

(17,604 posts)
26. trying to figure out how to pack up my 4 dogs and 40 yrs worth of crap and move there!
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 07:57 AM
Dec 2019

... but im just 200 miles from Canada.....so that is my current flight plan. Not serious (yet) but hubby has already checked on getting his Pharmacy license in Canada. Keeping a close eye on our true leaders setting up second residences abroad.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,558 posts)
42. Update From Scandanavia:
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:21 PM
Dec 2019

Finland has, as yet, not separated from the peninsula is occupies and fallen into the North Sea.i

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