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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
4. The whole thing about her and him is ridiculous
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 10:06 PM
Dec 2019

The facts discovered in the investigation, and their professional commitment to their work, are entirely unrelated to any personal relationship they may have had, which is none of anyone’s business in the first place.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
5. I feel awful for her. She has paid for her mistakes in unimaginable
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 10:34 PM
Dec 2019

ways, being turned into GOP and POTUS talking point and having your mistakes repeated on a loop to the world, has to be one of the worst punishments ever.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
7. Oh I know, believe me I feel just awful for her. I have made
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 10:46 PM
Dec 2019

so many mistakes, I can't imagine being in her position.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
13. +1, can they sue for defamation? Seems the only thing that shuts up Red Don & the Kremlin KKKlan is
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 12:40 AM
Dec 2019

... lawsuits.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
16. I don't think they can. Although, would the public figures
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 07:52 AM
Dec 2019

thing pertain to them? I mean they are now, that they have been unwillingly drug into this mess. They weren't before.

Kid Berwyn

(14,934 posts)
9. The Traitor Projects
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 11:22 PM
Dec 2019

“It’s almost impossible to describe” what it’s like, she told me. “It's like being punched in the gut. My heart drops to my stomach when I realize he has tweeted about me again. The president of the United States is calling me names to the entire world. He’s demeaning me and my career. It’s sickening.”

“But it's also very intimidating because he’s still the president of the United States. And when the president accuses you of treason by name, despite the fact that I know there's no fathomable way that I have committed any crime at all, let alone treason, he's still somebody in a position to actually do something about that. To try to further destroy my life. It never goes away or stops, even when he’s not publicly attacking me.” — Lisa Page, ex-FBI Attorney

https://www.thedailybeast.com/lisa-page-speaks-theres-no-fathomable-way-i-have-committed-any-crime-at-all

Kid Berwyn

(14,934 posts)
15. That's right.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:23 AM
Dec 2019

One of his “tells” is when Trump accuses others of what he has done. In the present case, he called Ms.Page a traitor when he is the one advancing Putin’s interests, time and again.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
14. The most disturbing part of this article
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:13 AM
Dec 2019
“It’s very painful to see to places like the FBI and the Department of Justice that represent so much of what is excellent about this country, not fulfilling the critical obligation that they have to speak truth to power,” she tells me. “The thing about the FBI that is so extraordinary is that it is made up of a group of men and women whose every instinct is to run toward the fight. It’s in the fiber of everybody there. It’s the lifeblood. So it’s particularly devastating to be betrayed by an organization I still care about so deeply. And it’s crushing to see the noble Justice Department, my Justice Department, the place I grew up in, feel like it’s abandoned its principles of truth and independence.”


Page accepts that her life will never be the same, that there’s no “normal life” to return to. She’s still married to her husband and they have two small children. Ultimately, she was just another public servant like Fiona Hill or Marie Yovanovitch. She was dragged into the spotlight, her text messages weaponized, and her life destroyed so that the Trump administration could have a brief distraction.

The era of Trump populism always had an ugly edge, particularly toward women. Trump revels in bringing misery to his opponents and will always seek out and exploit any weakness. Page “wasn’t nice to him,” and so in his eyes she can be endlessly targeted and assaulted.

It’s tempting to describe this as just part of Trump’s deep, baked-in misogyny and sociopathy, but in Page’s case it’s worse; it’s a sign of how deeply he’s corrupted the government to serve his will and his whims. His apologists have become part of Trump’s own squad of witch-hunters, hunting fantasies like “Ukrainian interference” while attacking the people who tried to protect us from Russian attacks.

It’s not just that Lisa Page may never be safe as long as Trump is President.


It’s that we won’t be safe, either.


dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
18. The things they discussed could have been much worse, they
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 08:00 AM
Dec 2019

weren't saying anything millions across the nation weren't saying.
The whole article is beyond devastating. I feel awful for both of them.

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