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(Author credit; Ned Forney, Writer, Saluting Americans Veterans)
Just months after winning his 1941 Academy Award for best actor in The Philadelphia Story, Jimmy Stewart, one of the best-known actors of the day, left Hollywood and joined the US Army. He was the first big-name movie star to enlist in World War II.
An accomplished private pilot, the 33-year-old Hollywood icon became a US Army Air Force aviator, earning his 2nd Lieutenant commission in early 1942. With his celebrity status and huge popularity with the American public, he was assigned to starring in recruiting films, attending rallies, and training younger pilots.
Stewart, however, wasnt satisfied. He wanted to fly combat missions in Europe, not spend time in a stateside training command. By 1944, frustrated and feeling the war was passing him by, he asked his commanding officer to transfer him to a unit deploying to Europe. His request was reluctantly granted.
Stewart, now a Captain, was sent to England, where he spent the next 18 months flying B-24 Liberator bombers over Germany. Throughout his time overseas, the US Army Air Corps' top brass had tried to keep the popular movie star from flying over enemy territory. But Stewart would hear nothing of it.
Determined to lead by example, he bucked the system, assigning himself to every combat mission he could. By the end of the war he was one of the most respected and decorated pilots in his unit.
But his wartime service came at a high personal price.
In the final months of WWII he was grounded for being flak happy, today called Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD).
When he returned to the US in August 1945, Stewart was a changed man. He had lost so much weight that he looked sickly. He rarely slept, and when he did he had nightmares of planes exploding and men falling through the air screaming (in one mission alone his unit had lost 13 planes and 130 men, most of whom he knew personally).
He was depressed, couldnt focus, and refused to talk to anyone about his war experiences. His acting career was all but over.
As one of Stewart's biographers put it, "Every decision he made [during the war] was going to preserve life or cost lives. He took back to Hollywood all the stress that he had built up.
In 1946 he got his break. He took the role of George Bailey, the suicidal father in Its a Wonderful Life. The rest is history.
Actors and crew of the set realized that in many of the disturbing scenes of George Bailey unraveling in front of his family, Stewart wasnt acting. His PTSD was being captured on filmed for potentially millions to see.
But despite Stewart's inner turmoil, making the movie was therapeutic for the combat veteran. He would go on to become one of the most accomplished and loved actors in American history.
When asked in 1941 why he wanted to leave his acting career to fly combat missions over Nazi Germany, he said, "This country's conscience is bigger than all the studios in Hollywood put together, and the time will come when we'll have to fight.
This weekend, as many of us watch the classic Christmas film, Its A Wonderful Life, its also a fitting time to remember the sacrifices of Jimmy Stewart and all the men who gave up so much to serve their country during wartime. We will always remember you!
Postscript:
While fighting in Europe, Stewart's Oscar statue was proudly displayed in his fathers Pennsylvania hardware store. Throughout his life, the beloved actor always said his father, a World War I veteran, was the person who had made the biggest impact on him.
Jimmy Stewart was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1985 and died in 1997 at the age of 89.
From "A Wonderful Life"
Photo credit: RKO Radio Pictures
Jimmy Stewart receiving an award from the French government.
Photo Credit: Wikipedia
TomSlick
(11,088 posts)He retired from the USAF Reserve as a brigadier general,
StClone
(11,682 posts)For reasons he just didn't!
TomSlick
(11,088 posts)Wayne was attempting to "atone" for avoiding service by creating his "super patriot" movie. It's also simply a bad movie.
Wayne was a wanna-be patriot.
jpak
(41,756 posts)Today.....in the WH?
Not
So
Much
Yup
efhmc
(14,723 posts)Makes me teary eyed. I miss them.
And now we are under the rule of Commander Bone Spurs, with everyone around him a group of chicken shits as military people call them. People who evaded the draft, were "legacy" individuals, or like George W Bush "served" in a reserve or national guard unit stateside.
Trump once said his "WAR" was bigger than VietNam, that his energy was depleted trying to avoid STD's......
They missed one, Lard Ass......He is showing all the signs of Tertiary syphillis...........
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)been to avoid paying prostitutes. He seems to have a penchant for "pay to play" females. Maybe that is because no self respecting female wants anything to do with him. He HAS to pay gold diggers. Some day we will get his medical records, and find out the truth.
Farmer-Rick
(10,139 posts)And he probably learned he couldn't get women to do what he wants without paying them. So he keeps marrying younger and younger gold diggers for regular sex than has prostitutes on the side to satisfy his sexual fetishes.
Except in Malaria. She was a Slovenian sex worker. So he gets her for normal sex and what ever fetish he's into. And he insists she keep getting plastic surgery to make her look younger and weirdly fake.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)of Turkey visited the WH. I told my niece "She looked so happy, I think maybe the Mother Ship sent a message that they will beam her up soon" She looks as Asian as Moscow Mitch's wife, maybe more so.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)He helped "liberate" a concentration camp and had an album of horrific pictures which, since he, himself, had carried a camera, I'd assumed he took. Later I learned from another daughter of a father in the same "outfit," that one of the higher officers, had these made up for the officers under him so they'd "never forget." While I'd read of "shell shock" from WWI, and PTSD after Viet Nam, I never heard about the trauma suffered by WWII veterans, who were mostly hailed as "liberators" and seemed to get together a lot, but mostly seemed to share "humorous stories. I saw only flashes of the humorous and outgoing man those who grew up with him remembered. On the outside he was still fairly gregarious, but at home he was moody and difficult, retired very early, and basically drank and smoked himself to death at sixty, after the kids were grown and on our own. My biggest regret in life was not understanding him at the time. My mom often considered divorcing him (different times), then felt guilty.
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)others suffer with them. My dad was wounded in Korea, never wanted to show his scars.
stevesinpa
(143 posts)war is a horrible experience. the constant fear, the immense death and destruction. it cannot help but have a toll on a person. it is so sad that we are only beginning to realize about PTSD.
I always hated the fact that so many people thought it was great that general patton slapped a soldier suffering from "shell shock" (PTSD).
patton may have been a great general in the war, but anyone that loved war as he did has something seriously wrong with him.
I am sorry to read about your father's issues, so many of our troops suffer similarly. fortunately, we are finally recognizing PTSD for what it is.
Rural_Progressive
(1,105 posts)Dad flew a P-47 Thunderbolt, on of the most deadly strafing fighter planes in WW!!. After he passed away I was lucky enough to find all of his flight records for sale by a collector of WWII memorabilia, what I found about his actions during the war opened my eyes in a small way to what he experienced.
All I knew before receiving his records was that he had been awarded the Silver Star for a classified mission he lead towards the end of the war. I had no idea that he had flown 119 combat missions and had logged in excess of 300 hours combat flight time. I saw how many of his missions had involved strafing and considering the fact that the P-47s frequently went in so low that the pilots could see the expressions on the faces of the men they were ripping apart with 50 caliber slugs I realized the price he had paid to help defeat that instance of fascism.
He never really made a full transition back to civilian life. He was happy on the farm I grew up on and we had great times in the orchard, raising game birds, and fishing on our beloved farm pond. After my mother decided rural life was not for her and forced him to move us into the suburbs he retreated into a shell. He'd come home from work, eat some dinner and spend the rest of his evening in his wood shop until he went to bed. My mother ended up divorcing him and his new wife didn't want anything to do with me so I lost touch with him for many years.
He was born Nov 30 so the memories are pretty raw and fresh in my mind today. Our little town has an Armed Forces Legacy Park where there are hundreds of plaques mounted on walls to commemorate the servicemen and women from our area, Dad is remembered on one of those plaques so his sacrifice will not be forgotten upon my death.
Miss you Dad, thank you for your service.
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)dem4decades
(11,269 posts)ancianita
(35,933 posts)RainCaster
(10,841 posts)soldierant
(6,791 posts)nor about how critical that was to the movie, not how crtical the movie was to him.
He was pretty clearly anti-fascist, even though he was a Republican. Odd that he also played Lindbergh, who was pretty much a fascist himself - a white nationalist certainly. It was a position nt as out of sync with society then as it is today, of course.
George II
(67,782 posts)Stewart played Lindbergh. I didn't know he was a pilot - I wonder if he flew in some of the scenes himself?
Mendocino
(7,482 posts)The near replica was his own. He donated to the Henry Ford Museum in Detroit.
George II
(67,782 posts)Mendocino
(7,482 posts)for serving in WWII for his isolationism, extreme racist views and Nazi sympathies. Supposedly FDR made sure he would not serve. He advised with civilian aviation firms in the south Pacific during war. He actually shot a a Japanese plane.
George II
(67,782 posts)It made him a very complicated person politically and personally. I don't think he was ever happy again after the kidnapping.
He resigned his commission before we got involved in the war, but after Japan and Germany declared war on the US he tried to get reinstated. FDR refused to allow it to happen.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,907 posts)and the US goes full Nazi.
Lindberg was a horrible human being. Flying skills notwithstanding.
efhmc
(14,723 posts)up his wife and their twins and went and got the car and then drove home without them. I cannot find this story but it stuck in my mind.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)Stewart was a staunch Republican throughout his life. He supported the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) and its investigation of the film industry's communist ties. When director Frank Capra was investigated by the committee, Stewart refused to publicly defend him, because he did not want to get involved. (It's a Wonderful Life was Directed by Frank Capra).
Stewart was a hawk on the Vietnam War, and maintained that his son, Ronald, did not die in vain.
Here is a different kind of hero, one that goes against the grain, which I believe is much harder to do.
Andrei Dmitrievich Sakharov (21 May 1921 14 December 1989) was a Russian nuclear physicist, dissident, Nobel laureate, and activist for disarmament, peace and human rights
Sakharov was arrested on 22 January 1980, following his public protests against the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan in 1979, and was sent to the city of Gorky, now Nizhny Novgorod, a city that was off limits to foreigners.
Between 1980 and 1986, Sakharov was kept under Soviet police surveillance. In his memoirs he mentions that their apartment in Gorky was repeatedly subjected to searches and heists. Sakharov was named the 1980 Humanist of the Year by the American Humanist Association.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)He served in combat, when many like John Wayne did not even serve. THAT is the only thing that matters.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I can see why you went straight for the reductio ad absurdum fallacy.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,907 posts)Great actor. Horrible person.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Just found it interesting and worth sharing.
wnylib
(21,341 posts)as a young man, Bobby Kennedy was a legal assistant for the investigations through his father's advice and connections. Kennedy disapproved of the tactics used by McCarthy. He also despised another attorney connected with the hearings, Roy Cohn, who later became the personal attorney of Trump and taught Trump his sleezy fighting tactics.
Regarding hawks on Vietnan, the fact is that a number of Dems were also hawks on that war. The Greatest Generation was in political power from both parties and their views were influenced by their experience with appeasement of Nazi Germany. I did not agree with them, but I understand why their WWII experiences informed their perceptions of the spread of communism.
Whatever political views Stewart had, the film It's a Wonderful Life seems to be supportive of New Deal values.
erlewyne
(1,115 posts)n/t
Raine
(30,540 posts)for the info!
hunter
(38,303 posts)About ten years senior of Stewart.
Yeah, they met. I have photographs. My grandfather was also a buddy of Lucille Ball.
My grandfather had joined the Army Air Corp to get the hell out of Wyoming and see the world. He was never going to be a rancher or mining engineer. Fuck the Wild West. When he was sixteen he'd run off to the Big City of Cheyenne Wyoming and it had not meet his expectations. Which is why he joined the Army, to see the world.
He met my grandma in Hollywood.
My grandma and her sister had felt much the same about the California dairy industry as my grandfather felt about Wyoming ranching, which is how my grandma and her sister had ended up running wild in Hollywood to meet my grandpa, in Los Angeles, there to do some sort of aircraft engineering.
My grandpa NEVER talked about World War II. He'd dreamed of being the romantic fly boy but the Army had found other uses for him. I only have photographs and vague stories. I recently found out my grandfather had been off to Alaska during World War II. Maybe across the Atlantic as well. Doing something. Always doing something elsewhere during the war, by my dad's recollection.
But my grandfather would always talk about the work he did landing men on the moon. Bits and pieces of metal he made are on the moon and in the Smithsonian. After the war he became an aerospace engineer with a knack for exotic metals. How that happened is a mystery,
Evolve Dammit
(16,697 posts)especially after Pearl Harbor.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)both U.S.A.F. And RAF were. What an real American hero Stewart was an still is.
spanone
(135,794 posts)dchill
(38,444 posts)...all the studios in Hollywood put together, and the time will come when we'll have to fight.
Money quote. We could assume that he might add, "All enemies, foreign and domestic."
yaesu
(8,020 posts)a little different, maybe tired of the war, the past, looking for something a little more upbeat. Its now the fav of millions of Americans at xmas time, mine included.
appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)Last edited Mon Dec 2, 2019, 07:55 AM - Edit history (1)
was over and the Red Scare and early Cold War were heating up.
Capra's portrayals of old man Potter, banks and housing were also regarded as too critical of Wall Street for some.
The drama, sentimental and happy family aspects of It's A Wonderful Life came when movies were heading into more realism, 'Film Noir' suspense, darkness, etc.
There have been books written on Capra, a 'New Deal' director and his movies; I treasure him and these great Hollywood films.
('Mr. Potter & The Commies of Bedford Falls'!) It's a Wonderful Life is a 1946 American Christmas fantasy drama film produced and directed by Frank Capra, based on the short story and booklet The Greatest Gift, which Philip Van Doren Stern wrote in 1939 and published privately in 1943. The film is one of the most beloved in American cinema, and has become traditional viewing during the Christmas season.
The film stars James Stewart as George Bailey, a man who has given up his dreams to help others, and whose imminent suicide on Christmas Eve brings about the intervention of his guardian angel, Clarence Odbody (Henry Travers). Clarence shows George all the lives he has touched, and how different life in his community of Bedford Falls would be if he had never been born.
Despite performing poorly at the box office due to stiff competition at the time of its release, the film has become a classic and is a staple of Christmas television around the world...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_a_Wonderful_Life
andym
(5,443 posts)Republican. It was liberal screenwriter Robert Riskin who had written many of the earlier Capra hits that were critical of business and politics. Ironically it was Capra's association with men like Riskin that caught the interest of Joe McCarthy, although Capra never testified.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,007 posts)and men alike, is awe inspiring these many decades later. The world faced fascism and beat it down, at enormous cost in deaths, broken and disabled veterans and ruined lives...
Sad that little of that nobel fortitude is evident in the chicken hawks leaders of this era.
We recently got to crawl inside a B-24 Liberator at a WWll air show (three days before the tragic crash that killed many who had paid for a brief flight) Those planes would have been a hell of tight space, sharp edges, insanely loud, freezing cold and of course with the enemy shooting at them, nearly certain death on each mission. I can more easily see now how Stewart, and countless other brave young lads, would have been traumatized.
Thanks for posting this.
I can hardly think of the scene in "Its A Wonderful Life" at the christmas tree with the daughter in his arms...and not hear the updated dialogue from the little girl: "And every time a bell rings...a Republican gets indicted"
LudwigPastorius
(9,107 posts)He looks like he aged 20 years.
Wednesdays
(17,317 posts)That It's a Wonderful Life was a staunchly pro-New Deal film.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4682241
wnylib
(21,341 posts)if its anti monopoly, pro common person view accounts for its popularity now.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)I have always admired the man, not just the actor. He was a remarkable person, decent and humble.
I must have watched "It's a Wonderful Life" dozens of times in my lifetime. I just watched it this week and will probably watch it again before the holiday season is over.
Here's to Jimmy and all those from the Greatest Generation, thank you for your service and sacrifice.
lapfog_1
(29,192 posts)"He rarely slept, and when he did he had nightmares of planes exploding and men falling through the air screaming (in one mission alone his unit had lost 13 planes and 130 men, most of whom he knew personally)."
Yup... I remember the times my father would wake up in the middle of the night screaming.
That generation did not really acknowledge "shell shock" or PTSD. My dad would never talk much about his war experience in WWII.
3catwoman3
(23,949 posts)...general in the AF reserves.
A one of my favorite Stewart movies is Flight of the Phoenix.
Rollo
(2,559 posts)I watched most of it, great movie.
This was also a great article. Stuff about Stewart that I hadn't known. I was vaguely aware he was a bomber pilot in WW2, but wasn't aware of the toll it too on him. It makes the scenes in IAWF where he basically loses it all the more convincing. One of the greatest films and performances ever.
I didn't know about his strong conservative streak or his support for the Vietnam War.
Well, nobody's perfect.
PatrickforO
(14,559 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,144 posts)You can be part of a political party and not agree with all their policies. And I can see how many people bought into the Domino Theory in the 60s, that probably realize it was bullshit.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,907 posts)And plenty in that time knew it was a crock.
bucolic_frolic
(43,058 posts)was a thorough Republican. Democrats and Republicans did agree on a lot at one time. Democrats loved the jobs that Main Street provided. Where did it all go?
PatrickforO
(14,559 posts)Deregulate, privatize and gut social programs.
Chicago school of economics and Milton Friedman. Cut, cut, cut taxes and the wealth will just trickle down!
Starve the government with tax cuts and debt service until it is small enough to 'drown in a bathtub.'
Military industrial complex takes control in 1965 when LBJ sends half a million troops to Vietnam.
The 1971 Powell Manifesto to the US Chamber of Commerce laying out this wonderful capitalist utopia we're living in now. Thanks Lewis. For nothing.
Fox News, AM talk radio and Rush Limbaugh.
That's where. https://www.thebrainwashingofmydad.com/
And it makes me sick. We've lost so much of our decency, our humanity, our goodness as a people.
bucolic_frolic
(43,058 posts)and it's old-time laissez-faire cutthroat capitalism renamed. Neoliberal is such a misnomer in my mind. They tried to tag us with the blame.
PatrickforO
(14,559 posts)don't you know.
Your post made me think of right wingers that try to claim Hitler was a socialist.
ariadne0614
(1,704 posts)PatrickforO
(14,559 posts)A fine human being. I know my father, who fought in the Pacific theater in WWII always thought the world of Jimmy. Said he was the 'real deal.'
And so he was.
Aristus
(66,293 posts)The repubs back then weren't the crazed, Kool-Aid-drinking cult members they are today.
I never thought of Jimmy Stewart as anything but a thoroughly decent human being. And a very appealing actor.
rockfordfile
(8,698 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,583 posts)He's been one of my favorite actors since childhood.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)and pretending he helped conquer concentration camps.
braddy
(3,585 posts)kept him from ever being in at all he was sent to transportation in 1942 and then to the Army Air Corp and making training films, he ended with 9 years of military service.
bdamomma
(63,799 posts)What a wonderful classic ❤️
lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)I didn't know a lot of that history...
braddy
(3,585 posts)demosincebirth
(12,529 posts)rockfordfile
(8,698 posts)demosincebirth
(12,529 posts)LunaSea
(2,892 posts)demosincebirth
(12,529 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(4,907 posts)Just sayin'.
oldsoftie
(12,491 posts)"U.S. National Archives records indicate that Wayne, in fact, did make an application[33] to serve in the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), precursor to the modern CIA, and had been accepted within the U.S. Army's allotted billet to the OSS. William J. Donovan, OSS Commander, wrote Wayne a letter informing him of his acceptance into the Field Photographic Unit, but the letter went to his estranged wife Josephine's home. She never told him about it. Donovan also issued an OSS Certificate of Service to Wayne."
So at least no bone spurs that also must magically heal themselves.
TlalocW
(15,374 posts)Not doubting the pride, but I seem to remember an interview with Jimmy where he said that his dad didn't know what to do with it so he put it in the window.
TlalocW
The Wizard
(12,536 posts)achieved the rank of General, which takes Congressional approval. Quite a guy.
Bettie
(16,073 posts)we have too few of them around these days.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Kaleva
(36,251 posts)He told me some pretty interesting stories. Like when they were getting close to the target and he'd scrunch down in his seat as he watched bombers ahead of him go down in flames.
KSNY
(315 posts)And Trump personifies Mr. Potter...
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)FakeNoose
(32,588 posts)Thanks Heartstrings!
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)1987 in an elevator. His wife was there, she laughed and he was adorable.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)brooklynite
(94,356 posts)Potterville seems like a much more fun place to live than Bedford Falls...
ZZenith
(4,115 posts)brooklynite
(94,356 posts)...and we won't even get into the Bailey Building and Loan's policy on nepotism...
klook
(12,152 posts)klook
(12,152 posts)Watching Mr. Smith Goes To Washington recently made me recall the America of yesteryear (for all its faults) a little more fondly.
Of course, the ending of that movie is ridiculous by today's standards, with the corrupt senator admitting the error of his ways! Maybe someday honorable behavior will be the standard for American politicians instead of the exception for so many.
camden040
(1 post)The author seems to have forgotten to thank the women who gave up so much to serve their country during wartime.
gopiscrap
(23,726 posts)MrsCheaplaugh
(182 posts)Unlike those of today, Jimmy Stewart put his money where his mouth was and stepped up when everyone needed a big clutch play.
No doubt that's why it looks so odd to everyone now.