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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNext time some con says they vote for the economy when they vote for repubs
show them this
https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/democrats/2016/6/the-economy-under-democratic-vs-republican-presidents
These FACTS are available from more sources than this.
Thom Hartmann speaks of this often, that the dems ALWAYS do better, period.
It is a FACT. So NO you do NOT vote on economics, Mr. Con, you vote for repubs to enhance your RACISM and bigotry and for no other fucking reason.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)even by Ds who know better.
Its like theyve stipulated to the received wisdom, even though its wrong.
Vdizzle
(383 posts)N/t
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)1) They are uninformed.
2) They are lying racists.
I generally assume #1 unless I have reason to assume #2.
Wounded Bear
(58,653 posts)especially because there are two categories under #1.
a. They are willfully ignorant and thus uninformed by choice.
b. They are not willfully ignorant, and thus innocently uninformed.
I find 1a to be much more probable than 1b when it comes to Repub rubes.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)and I know a few in the 1b category. But I also know many in the #2 category as well.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)just care about $...which means take all the impediments away...laws, regs, whatever.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)True, there are a few of them as well.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)sop
(10,177 posts)Yeah, right. That's more BS. Most people understand cutting taxes (on the wealthy) and deregulating (corporations), the usual Republican policy choices, only makes the rich richer, and everyone else worse off.
Wounded Bear
(58,653 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)sandensea
(21,633 posts)Most of today's Republicans - and for the last 25+ years, really - vote that way because of racial hatred.
In my younger, more effervescent days, I used to show GOP acquaintances these very charts - and they either gave me glazed (almost bovine) looks, or started off with something along the lines of: "the way Democrats give black and hispanics welfare, we'll go bankrupt in 10 years!"
That's what it's all about for them. Most of them, anyway.
Ohiogal
(31,996 posts)sandensea
(21,633 posts)As useless as they are as far as policy, GOPee bigwigs are masters at framing the narrative and using people's own pettiness.
Not that it must've been too difficult - what with all the millions of Archie Bunker and Jim Crow types in this country, sadly.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)The Republican Party realized that they can not exist without appeasing the base bigots. The rich couldn't give two shits about the crazy and disenchanted; nor the extreme social and religious views; nor the deficits..they just know they need their votes and want to make as much money as possible. Figure out a way to separate these segments and they are doomed forever. Personally, think a nutty 3rd party could do it.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)But if convincing the idiots that the jew and the black and the Mexican are the root of all their problems (instead of they themselves) is the avenue to keeping more of their filthy lucre, you bet your ass they're gonna do it.
Because what do they care if theres another civil war?
It isn't their kids that are gonna die, and they have the resources to finance selling guns to both sides.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)that the masses of average middle class citizens (except around the edges) would never go along with their pillaging!
But here's another truth...bet the rich are not thinking they would have had to ever sink this low..aligning with hate. But it's a pause, a thought, then "Oh well, pass the Poupon.."
Volaris
(10,270 posts)Well then bring on the hate!'
Wow that was easy. Yes cut Rushbo his pittance check.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)in the upper crust to write an anonymous book about how they really feel and how Republicans communicate on this level. I have always thought it was in whispered conversations in private clubs and cocktail parties and on golf courses, away from the masses.
Like we always know if something is good and decent and helps someone we are for it - what is it like to be driven by the opposite?
Volaris
(10,270 posts)McKim
(2,412 posts)For whom is the economy good? Is it good for the 114,000 homeless children in NYC or good for Wall St.? This is a great comeback.
onecaliberal
(32,854 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)gaining wealth. They don't care where the money (or created money) came from.
Martin Eden
(12,864 posts)Because trickle-down does not work. Never has, and never will.
Poiuyt
(18,123 posts)They looked back at the previous 80 years, which by coincidence had 40 years of Democratic rule and 40 years of Republican rule. By every single metric, the economy did better under the Democratic presidency. From household income, to per capita GNP, Dow Jones, recessions and the great depression, etc. There is no doubt that the American economy does better with a Democrat as president.
ck4829
(35,074 posts)greymattermom
(5,754 posts)What happened to all the whining about the deficit? Wasn't that serious? If that's not serious, nothing is.