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Sondland Bombshell: News Homepages from around the Internet (Original Post) Skinner Nov 2019 OP
Ladies and Gentlemen... We Got Him! - n/t lapfog_1 Nov 2019 #1
until Trump actually leaves the oval office for good, I will not get my hopes up. riversedge Nov 2019 #14
This. Right now, Trump's impeached, tried, but seemingly Hortensis Nov 2019 #27
Well analyzed. Sadly. soldierant Nov 2019 #71
Sad. Corgigal Nov 2019 #72
McConnell tossing Trump off the GOP lifeboat!? RVN VET71 Nov 2019 #80
+1000 bitterross Nov 2019 #32
Same here PatSeg Nov 2019 #62
Ditto. He and the GOP are not going to fold easily and certainly not because of this. They have no KPN Nov 2019 #65
I remember mc Connell saying I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2019 #74
Good question. I'm guessing democracy KPN Nov 2019 #79
We don't have him until McConnell says we do groundloop Nov 2019 #67
LOL at the FOX headline Johnny2X2X Nov 2019 #2
HAHAHA!! AZ8theist Nov 2019 #45
A Fish Rots from the Head Captain Zero Nov 2019 #53
got no problem drawing Pompeo, Pence, Mulvaney, Johnson into stopdiggin Nov 2019 #64
The only ones treestar Nov 2019 #58
This is good news for John McCain gratuitous Nov 2019 #3
Yet under questioning, he refused to pin trump as the source of it all Roland99 Nov 2019 #4
What feed were you watching? kcr Nov 2019 #16
CSpan Roland99 Nov 2019 #19
he/she is correct.... getagrip_already Nov 2019 #21
No they aren't. That's not refusing to pin it on Trump kcr Nov 2019 #26
it's ondands testimony.... getagrip_already Nov 2019 #47
or is mark summer a right wing spinner? getagrip_already Nov 2019 #49
No. It's Sondlands testimony Roland99 Nov 2019 #52
Finer distinction.He tied the withholding of a WH office visit directly to Trump... Pacifist Patriot Nov 2019 #54
Sondland made it very clear that while he never heard directly and firsthand from Trump that the Nitram Nov 2019 #69
LOL BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #5
goldman got him to admit otherwise.... getagrip_already Nov 2019 #22
He's fucked BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #24
well golly gee... stillcool Nov 2019 #6
k&r DesertRat Nov 2019 #7
thanks for pulling these together. Very refreshing! hlthe2b Nov 2019 #8
now to find one that says #TrumpBribery. riversedge Nov 2019 #9
thank you for this, Skinner --- I was away from all media until just now. Grasswire2 Nov 2019 #10
k&r & thanks! Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #11
Did everyone see MooNez's face !? Looked like a bus ran over every cow he owned uponit7771 Nov 2019 #12
Wonder what MooooooNes will say about TV ratings today!? flibbitygiblets Nov 2019 #23
MOOnez's face malaise Nov 2019 #73
Thanks for posting! Nt USALiberal Nov 2019 #13
Thank you, Skinner! 2naSalit Nov 2019 #15
Good to see what the rest of the world is seeing! nolabear Nov 2019 #17
Wasn't there a previous episode when Trump said 'I'm f_cked'? keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #18
Pence. "Everyone was in the loop." Hortensis Nov 2019 #20
Leave it to Fox to throw Sondland under the bus by calling his testimony a "blame game." SunSeeker Nov 2019 #25
What a great day! Scurrilous Nov 2019 #28
Watched only 2 minutes this morning and watched him AllyCat Nov 2019 #29
I simply can't read or hear the word Mme. Defarge Nov 2019 #30
Lol at the Fox headline. OliverQ Nov 2019 #31
Yeah, they couldn't quite say the truth. progressoid Nov 2019 #40
Sondland was screwed either way. Caliman73 Nov 2019 #33
Guiliani's already signalling that he has emails or other records that incriminate the President. meadowlander Nov 2019 #55
Who ever knew that witch hunting could be so much fun? world wide wally Nov 2019 #34
K&r Politicub Nov 2019 #35
This is so heartening matt819 Nov 2019 #36
Oh sweet Jesus, what a great day!!! Peacetrain Nov 2019 #37
Bless this post. joost5 Nov 2019 #38
Just perfect. nt iluvtennis Nov 2019 #39
Is the medivac on the way to 1600 PA? Historic NY Nov 2019 #41
Smocking gun. nt littlemissmartypants Nov 2019 #42
Some Democrat needs to ask Republicans and Pundits... moonseller66 Nov 2019 #43
Oh, happy day! llmart Nov 2019 #44
Nice collection. Thanks! FailureToCommunicate Nov 2019 #46
What is his next diversion? liberal N proud Nov 2019 #48
Ambassador SaveAss NBachers Nov 2019 #50
BOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!!! calimary Nov 2019 #51
trump's claim of a hoax and witch hunt? duforsure Nov 2019 #56
"The loop" is a circular fireing squad . Srkdqltr Nov 2019 #57
ITTMF RFN! malaise Nov 2019 #59
Sacred Feces! patphil Nov 2019 #60
Freepers are claiming Giuliani went rogue IronLionZion Nov 2019 #61
. dustyscamp Nov 2019 #63
+1 dalton99a Nov 2019 #70
K&R orangecrush Nov 2019 #66
I *LOVE* waking up to stuff like this Skittles Nov 2019 #68
Wow. BlueWI Nov 2019 #75
Thank you! This is awesome OhNo-Really Nov 2019 #76
Salute blm Nov 2019 #77
After this I don't know how the Senate could not remove him from doc03 Nov 2019 #78

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. This. Right now, Trump's impeached, tried, but seemingly
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:33 PM
Nov 2019

not convicted. He'll spend the trial period conspiring with his own party and with Putin to exchange reelection for destruction of the U.S.'s ability to protect ourselves, much less the 2 dozen former Soviet nations Putin intends to invade and take over. And after the trial, Trump'll be extremely vengeful -- against all the Americans who crossed and/or failed him, as I believe he has been all along.

The Repubs are in trouble, but we need more for McConnell et al to toss him off their lifeboat.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
72. Sad.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 07:24 PM
Nov 2019

I was just asking my husband if we should be preparing for apt bombings with held american chemicals?

Spooky.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
80. McConnell tossing Trump off the GOP lifeboat!?
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 09:47 AM
Nov 2019

I know you meant this facetiously. But that sentence lays out very clearly what a pack of cowardly treason-enablers (if not practitioners) the Republicans are, to a man and woman.

I honestly believe that if McConnell and Graham and Nunes and the idiot from Ohio (Jordan) were at a dinner where Trump was eating rotisserie babies they would still smile and call him "sir" when they addressed him.

PatSeg

(47,427 posts)
62. Same here
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 02:50 PM
Nov 2019

There were too many times where I thought, "This is it, its over", but he survived and sometimes even thrived.

This should be the end, but I'll believe it, when I see it.

KPN

(15,645 posts)
65. Ditto. He and the GOP are not going to fold easily and certainly not because of this. They have no
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:26 PM
Nov 2019

reason to believe that they cannot just create and sell a rendition of truth that buttresses their current grasp on power; they've been able to do that so many times during the course of this administration already , not to mention before -- Iran/Contra and the Iraq invasion for example.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
74. I remember mc Connell saying
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 07:53 PM
Nov 2019

In a soundbite on TV that if Warren is elected that "it " will be over.

Wonder what he meant?

Democracy will be over

Or

The republicans and billionaires will never be able to abuse, plunder and destroy democracy and human empathy on such a scale they've gotten away with anymore.

KPN

(15,645 posts)
79. Good question. I'm guessing democracy
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 09:26 PM
Nov 2019

given their apparent definition of it, i.e., freedom to whatever the F we want. But which really is both.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
67. We don't have him until McConnell says we do
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 05:17 PM
Nov 2019

McConnell will set the rules for the Senate trial, McConnell will keep the vast majority of repub Senators toeing the party line. We'll have tRump when, and only when, McConnell decides his baggage is too heavy to carry.

AZ8theist

(5,459 posts)
45. HAHAHA!!
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:23 PM
Nov 2019

Did you also notice while every other headline says "TRUMP", the weasels at Faux News just say "top echelon" ??

They can't even admit he's the problem. A joke indeed..

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
64. got no problem drawing Pompeo, Pence, Mulvaney, Johnson into
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 02:53 PM
Nov 2019

the spotlight along with the collaborator in chief! Let's keep reminding people that this was NOT just crazy Rudy running around self dealing. And it wasn't just a "misunderstanding" or a "difference of opinion" .. EVERYBODY knew what was going on .. in big CAP letters!

getagrip_already

(14,750 posts)
21. he/she is correct....
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:30 PM
Nov 2019

While he repeatedly said he assumed the directives came from trump, he never actually heard trump say to tie aid or meetings to the investigation.

As cohen and vindeman pointed out, trump doesn't talk that way. He talks like a mob boss on an open line - in code.

But sondland did leave a barn door open for the gop to claim it was all rudy. rudy should stay off of icy roofs and not try to clean the windows on the outside of his 50th floor apartment.

kcr

(15,316 posts)
26. No they aren't. That's not refusing to pin it on Trump
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:33 PM
Nov 2019

That is a right-wing talking point I've already heard at least one talking head try. He clearly stated that Trump told him to talk to Rudy.

getagrip_already

(14,750 posts)
49. or is mark summer a right wing spinner?
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:47 PM
Nov 2019

Wednesday, Nov 20, 2019 · 12:40:46 PM EST · Mark Sumner
Sondland’s firewall against being attacked by Trump is his claim that Trump “never told him directly” about holding military assistance.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
54. Finer distinction.He tied the withholding of a WH office visit directly to Trump...
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 02:08 PM
Nov 2019

but was cagier about the aid being a direct order from Trump. I heard him refuse several times to say he had ever heard that Trump ordered that, but instead said it was an impression he got.

Nitram

(22,800 posts)
69. Sondland made it very clear that while he never heard directly and firsthand from Trump that the
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 05:57 PM
Nov 2019

WH meeting and military aid were conditioned on a public statement by President Zelensky that the Bidens and 2016 election would be investigated, he made it abundantly clear that everyone knew that's what Tump wanted. As Cohen testified, Trump never says directly that he wants people to commit crimes, but they always know what he means.

BumRushDaShow

(128,953 posts)
5. LOL
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:09 PM
Nov 2019

At the end of the questioning - he suddenly kept repeating that Drumpf didn't have anything to do with it.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
10. thank you for this, Skinner --- I was away from all media until just now.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:12 PM
Nov 2019

Looking for the headline of the morning, and here it is.

THANK YOU.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
23. Wonder what MooooooNes will say about TV ratings today!?
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:31 PM
Nov 2019


Anyone still bored? Enough "pizazz" for ya, Rethuglicans?

Oh, this is so awesome!!

keithbvadu2

(36,793 posts)
18. Wasn't there a previous episode when Trump said 'I'm f_cked'?
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:25 PM
Nov 2019

Wasn't there a previous episode when Trump said 'I'm f_cked'?

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
29. Watched only 2 minutes this morning and watched him
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:36 PM
Nov 2019

Tell the truth. 45 under bus. Yay! Senate, please surprise Americans and do the right thing.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
31. Lol at the Fox headline.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:38 PM
Nov 2019

Doesn't explicitly say Trump and in small print, says "potential" quid pro quo, despite Sondland testifying there was a quid pro quo.

Fox is pure Nazi propaganda.

Caliman73

(11,737 posts)
33. Sondland was screwed either way.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:55 PM
Nov 2019

He had three options once he started testifying:

1. Take the fall.
2. Throw Trump under the bus.
3. Pin it on Giuliani.

Sondland thought he was getting a lucrative deal for buying his ambassadorship. He thought he was going to get dividends for his hotel chain. He dove straight into the swamp and ended up full of leeches.

Giuliani will likely not take the fall here. If the House can compel him to testify, I am sure he will yield fruit.

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
55. Guiliani's already signalling that he has emails or other records that incriminate the President.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 02:13 PM
Nov 2019

No chance he's going down alone for this if he's compelled to testify.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
36. This is so heartening
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:59 PM
Nov 2019

Thanks for taking the time to collect these. Can't wait to see the op-ed pages tomorrow.

moonseller66

(430 posts)
43. Some Democrat needs to ask Republicans and Pundits...
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:15 PM
Nov 2019

...is this impeachment hearing into Presidential criminality as important as one involving consensual sex?

(Edited for spelling)

calimary

(81,242 posts)
51. BOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!!!
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:57 PM
Nov 2019

De BOOM-BOOM-BOOM, or as Beethoven would have written it - "BUH-BUH-BUH BOOOOOOOOOOOMMM!!!"

Just call him "Songbird Sondland."


Holy Cannoli...

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
56. trump's claim of a hoax and witch hunt?
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 02:24 PM
Nov 2019

Only proves he knew it was illegal , and why he's obstructed, and tried to cover it up, and lied about it over and over again. He conspired doing this too. His propaganda and attacks now all coming home to show he's a career criminal. He's done this before, and I suspect it'll be uncover eventually too. His tells are giving himself away . The hoax was trump acting like he was innocent, and accusing others of guilt. Huge numbers of republicans will be running from their party and trump now.

IronLionZion

(45,438 posts)
61. Freepers are claiming Giuliani went rogue
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 02:49 PM
Nov 2019

so expect them to throw Rudy under the bus while Trump pretends like he doesn't know him.

dustyscamp

(2,224 posts)
63. .
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 02:51 PM
Nov 2019

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doc03

(35,332 posts)
78. After this I don't know how the Senate could not remove him from
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 08:49 PM
Nov 2019

office but they won't. We just have to win the election in 2020 or our democracy is dead.

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