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yardwork

(61,408 posts)
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:48 PM Nov 2019

Marie Yovanovich spoke volumes with her clothes.

The scarf she wore when she testified was a classic Hermes with a pattern of swords, eagles and flags. She also wore a big sparkly American flag pin.

Like female diplomats and politicians before her, Yovanovich used her clothes to send a message. This is a message that will resonate with upper income Republican women. They wear Hermes scarves. The message is - I'm one of you. Listen to what I'm saying.

Very clever. I went looking for an article about this because I knew others would have noticed this. Sure enough: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2019/11/15/marie-yovanovitchs-eagles-sabers-glittering-flag-spoke-before-her-testimony-began/%3foutputType=amp

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Marie Yovanovich spoke volumes with her clothes. (Original Post) yardwork Nov 2019 OP
Her clothes and her attitide-- many people will recognize her as on of th of rock solid and decent.. TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #1
BandAid - did anyone else notice? OhNo-Really Nov 2019 #20
The Right Wing conspirasphere noticed. Midnight Writer Nov 2019 #34
Cuckoos have too much free time 😂 OhNo-Really Nov 2019 #45
Was she wearing a red coat when she left the building? MacKasey Nov 2019 #2
She did. Here's some video. Beartracks Nov 2019 #3
Interesting that she was accompanied by the Capitol security question everything Nov 2019 #6
Very necessary, considering the crazies. I hope they escorted her all the way to her car... Hekate Nov 2019 #11
I think everyone who testifies is escorted by security. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #18
Very Important Point Roy Rolling Nov 2019 #4
Good get, yardwork! B Stieg Nov 2019 #5
Ambassador Madeleine Albright's book "Read My Pins" is excellent OMGWTF Nov 2019 #7
I remember! yardwork Nov 2019 #31
Madeleine Albright did this as well. jmbar2 Nov 2019 #8
Jill Wine-Banks is another one who sends a message with her pins. Tanuki Nov 2019 #10
Those are great. Ilsa Nov 2019 #13
Ha ha! Her Roger Stone pin! jmbar2 Nov 2019 #19
My sartorial choices these days are decidedly casual Aquaria Nov 2019 #23
I was never so happy as when I retired from wearing office drag jmbar2 Nov 2019 #25
oh god pantyhose Grasswire2 Nov 2019 #26
And the first Queen Elizabeth as well! yardwork Nov 2019 #33
What state does she live in - because she would make a fantastic Senate candidate AdamGG Nov 2019 #9
Diplomacy is a calling. It's obvious she was born to do it. lunatica Nov 2019 #28
I noticed her apparel and accessories as well. Ilsa Nov 2019 #12
All about Wellstone ruled Nov 2019 #14
She also wore a black suit. When facing bullying know-it-alls LuckyLib Nov 2019 #15
Worked with a ton of women lawyers Aquaria Nov 2019 #24
I do the same! yardwork Nov 2019 #37
Interesting! No one noticed this I'm sure...but noticed Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #16
I thought she looked very MuseRider Nov 2019 #17
So many good people forced out of their jobs by this horrible administration. yardwork Nov 2019 #36
What an awesome MuseRider Nov 2019 #44
Like the Queen cp Nov 2019 #21
I've never been part of the traitor party Aquaria Nov 2019 #22
Welcome to DU, Aquaria. nt littlemissmartypants Nov 2019 #30
That's a good point. yardwork Nov 2019 #38
proud to say I could not tell a Hermes scarf from a dimestore scarf Skittles Nov 2019 #51
Stunning !! CountAllVotes Nov 2019 #27
Thank you for posting the photo! yardwork Nov 2019 #42
Good on you recognizing this, yardwork! Cha Nov 2019 #29
Thanks! I actually dress this way myself sometimes. yardwork Nov 2019 #35
Wow! No, I never Cha Nov 2019 #39
DU is where I can let my hair down. yardwork Nov 2019 #41
lol Cha Nov 2019 #43
Excellent post. littlemissmartypants Nov 2019 #32
Agreed! yardwork Nov 2019 #40
Here's the scarf blogslut Nov 2019 #46
That's it! Thank you for the link. yardwork Nov 2019 #49
Ms Givhan has it a bit wrong blogslut Nov 2019 #52
Yes, especially when compared to this: Trailrider1951 Nov 2019 #47
Quite a stark contrast, indeed. yardwork Nov 2019 #50
I, for one, kinda appreciate the first outfit on the list ... mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #53
yes, Hermes scarves, the affordable accessory that says you are librechik Nov 2019 #48
Good catch, yardwork! brer cat Nov 2019 #54

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. Her clothes and her attitide-- many people will recognize her as on of th of rock solid and decent..
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:00 PM
Nov 2019

women we used to admire.

Like Margaret Chase Smith.

Midnight Writer

(21,543 posts)
34. The Right Wing conspirasphere noticed.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:21 PM
Nov 2019

Since her hand is partially covered while she takes the oath, that makes the oath null and void. This is intentional on her part.

The ring on her right hand instead of her left identifies her as a Deep State officer. Watch for this in future witnesses.


OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
45. Cuckoos have too much free time 😂
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:46 PM
Nov 2019

I wondered if she carefully chose the scarf because I manufactured an accessory line in the late 80s early 90s when that type of print was all the rage.

The Disinformation Bureau must be working overtime in the WH

MacKasey

(974 posts)
2. Was she wearing a red coat when she left the building?
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:19 PM
Nov 2019

I could be wrong but I thought she was wearing a red coat when she left the building and got into a car.

Saw video last night , but can't find right now

Can anyone help?

Thanks

Hekate

(90,189 posts)
11. Very necessary, considering the crazies. I hope they escorted her all the way to her car...
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 02:07 PM
Nov 2019

...and I hope she is protected in ner home.

Roy Rolling

(6,853 posts)
4. Very Important Point
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:46 PM
Nov 2019

Politics is about persuasion, not just debate. Lecturing people on the facts like they are in grade school is just one method. I didn’t realize the scarf significance, but it resonated with the people who do.

That is communication.

jmbar2

(4,828 posts)
8. Madeleine Albright did this as well.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:56 PM
Nov 2019

Also the Queen of England. Their pins are never just "decoration", but always send a message.

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
13. Those are great.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 02:18 PM
Nov 2019

I am not a big fan of wearing pins unless I'm sticking them through a hardy fabric. They need to be light in weight unless they have a backing to counter the weight. A sagging pin is a no-go!

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
23. My sartorial choices these days are decidedly casual
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:01 PM
Nov 2019

But back in my worker bee and social butterfly days, I was definitely into pins and other accessories like scarves and hats (for social outings only). Everything I put on was to create a specific image, and send a message.

When I did temp work for law firms, I had a mini-Constitution scroll pin that that was a huge hit. One of the senior partners at a CA white shoe firm said he knew as soon as he saw that pin that I was going to be the kind of temp he wanted to hire for good. I had to turn him down when he made the offer, because I thought it was wrong to commit to a permanent position when I was (then) a military wife whose husband could be shipped out to a base halfway around the world next week.

jmbar2

(4,828 posts)
25. I was never so happy as when I retired from wearing office drag
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:33 PM
Nov 2019

Destroyed my feet wearing high heels for the first part of my career and felt claustrophobic in pantyhose. Took 40 minutes to torment my curly hair into a "professional do" each morning.

The last consulting project I did, I noticed that all the other consultants had major dental work done. They all had these huge, ultrawhite "chiclet" smiles. I knew then and there that I had done all I could do for the corporate world. Never looked back.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
28. Diplomacy is a calling. It's obvious she was born to do it.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:08 PM
Nov 2019

It takes an ability to mediate between two or more parties. It’s the ability to smooth things and to persuade. To listen and comprehend. To work for the betterment of both sides. To reach mutual understanding and benefit. It’s the ability to stop wars from happening. To make friends and allies. Partisanship is detrimental to diplomats. Their calling is to serve the country, not the politicians or Presidents.



Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
12. I noticed her apparel and accessories as well.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 02:10 PM
Nov 2019

She was all-business, all-patriotic, and an American success story with immigrant parents escaping the soviets and nazis. She was grateful, humble, and confident. Her clothing choices reflected all of that.

LuckyLib

(6,814 posts)
15. She also wore a black suit. When facing bullying know-it-alls
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 02:28 PM
Nov 2019

at particular meetings in my profession, some women would send a notice the day before that the meeting was a "black suit day." Sartorial choices are not trivial.

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
24. Worked with a ton of women lawyers
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:03 PM
Nov 2019

Who wore only black or super-dark blue or brown suits when they had to be in court, so that they would appear more authoritative.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
16. Interesting! No one noticed this I'm sure...but noticed
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 02:28 PM
Nov 2019

When she walked out she passed Goldman and they both acknowledged each other with big smiles and nods. It was one of those videos that the networks broke into but left the scene playing.

MuseRider

(34,057 posts)
17. I thought she looked very
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 02:33 PM
Nov 2019

professional and strong.

I would not know a Hermes scarf if you strangled me with one! My brothers partner worked at Hermes but I would never look, way too pricey for my rural life!!

She certainly had a soft look on her face when she smiled and a definite look of sadness that her time doing that job was over. She obviously loved her job and the people she was working with but she was also very strong about what she was doing.

I guess Hermes would do it for some, her words and actions for others and some would love it all. She made me feel sad but very proud.

yardwork

(61,408 posts)
36. So many good people forced out of their jobs by this horrible administration.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:28 PM
Nov 2019

I admire them for their strength and courage. That's what the pattern on her scarf said. It's a reference to power in the service of liberty.

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
22. I've never been part of the traitor party
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:50 PM
Nov 2019

But I know Hermes when I see it, and plenty of liberal women are like that. I saw that scarf Yovanovich wore and knew its provenance, instantly.

She may have been speaking not only to conservaXXX women, but to all professional women in general. Professional-class women have far more sway over what other women think and do than people realize, because they're the women we interact with most often in the real world, be it through work, business, social groups or charities. They are the trustworthy ones who can get things done...or the evil harridans who make our lives hell.

We know what a credible woman in authority looks and acts like, and Madame Ambassador hit all that out of the ballpark.

yardwork

(61,408 posts)
35. Thanks! I actually dress this way myself sometimes.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:25 PM
Nov 2019

I have a job that requires tact, diplomacy, and persuasion. (I know, I'm nothing like this on DU!)

On certain days I wear black suits and a Hermes scarf. I don't own one like hers, though. I'm in a different field so I send different signals.

Years ago I bought used Hermes scarves on eBay and refurbished them myself. Silk is an amazingly resilient fabric.

littlemissmartypants

(22,417 posts)
32. Excellent post.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:20 PM
Nov 2019

She definitely knocked the nonverbal signals out of the park. The power color triad of red, black and white. The eyeglasses. The hair. Along with what has already been mentioned, all straight out of the nonverbal category of Costuming and Cosmetics. Add that to her Vocalics and we have a beyond winning classic combination. Ms. Yovanovich was a walking, talking master class in persuasion.

A role model for us all.

blogslut

(37,955 posts)
52. Ms Givhan has it a bit wrong
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 06:36 PM
Nov 2019

Those aren't crowns. They're a military headdress called a Shako. Marie Yovanovitch is a soldier.

Trailrider1951

(3,408 posts)
47. Yes, especially when compared to this:
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 06:13 PM
Nov 2019
?w=620&h=459



And this:

?w=700&h=437&crop=1



Not to mention this:

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librechik

(30,663 posts)
48. yes, Hermes scarves, the affordable accessory that says you are
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 06:15 PM
Nov 2019

born to the aristocracy, no excuses. And the iconography is a big bonus.

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