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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid I just hear that in KY if an election is contested their LEGISLATURE decides who wins?
https://theweek.com/speedreads/876686/kentuckys-republican-senate-president-says-gopled-legislature-may-pick-next-governor
When this happens, do patriots do nothing?
My anger has nowhere to go...I have to know I am not the only one so fucking furious I can barely sit.
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)By Hillary Thornton | Posted: Wed 12:04 PM, Nov 06, 2019 | Updated: Wed 2:46 PM, Nov 06, 2019
The first option is requesting a recanvass. Governor Bevin has until Tuesday afternoon to request that. The recanvass would then happen on Thursday.
That process checks to make sure the vote totals from each machine were accurately recorded. Grimes says shes seen more than 20 recanvases, including Gov. Bevin's narrow 83-vote primary win in 2015, and shes never seen the outcome change.
The next option Bevin could consider would be filing an election contest with the General Assembly. He has up to 30 days after the votes are certified to do that.
He must contest the election to receive a recount of the votes. If that process is initiated, the General Assembly will form a committee of 11 randomly selected lawmakers that could take depositions, order a recount, and make a recommendation to the full legislature ...
https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Secretary-of-State-talks-re-canvassing-contesting-election-results-564560581.html
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)... After a contentious and chaotic nominating convention at the Music Hall in Louisville, the Democratic Party chose state Senator William Goebel as its nominee. A dissident faction of the party, styling themselves the "Honest Election Democrats", were angered by Goebel's political tactics at the Music Hall convention and later held their own nominating convention. They chose former governor John Y. Brown as their nominee. Republicans nominated state Attorney General William S. Taylor, although Governor Bradley favored another candidate and lent Taylor little support in the ensuing campaign. In the general election, Taylor won by a vote of 193,714 to 191,331. Brown garnered 12,040 votes, more than the difference between Taylor and Goebel. The election results were challenged on grounds of voter fraud, but surprisingly, the state Board of Elections, created by a law Goebel had sponsored and stocked with pro-Goebel commissioners, certified Taylor's victory.
An incensed Democratic majority in the Kentucky General Assembly created a committee to investigate the charges of voter fraud, even as armed citizens from heavily Republican eastern Kentucky poured into the state capital under auspices of keeping Democrats from stealing the election. Before the investigative committee could report, Goebel was shot by an unknown assassin while entering the state capitol on January 30, 1900. As Goebel lay in a nearby hotel being treated for his wounds, the committee issued its report recommending that the General Assembly invalidate enough votes to give the election to Goebel. The report was accepted, Taylor was deposed, and Goebel was sworn into office on January 31. He died three days later on February 2 ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1899_Kentucky_gubernatorial_election
People may not be too excited about following this precedent from 120 years ago
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,131 posts)AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,256 posts)Time to get over it
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,256 posts)AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)Except as otherwise herein expressly provided, the General Assembly shall have power to provide by general law for the manner of voting, for ascertaining the result of elections and making due returns thereof, for issuing certificates or commissions to all persons entitled thereto, and for the trial of contested elections.
Text as Ratified on: August 3, 1891, and revised September 28, 1891.
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)120.195 Contest of election of Governor, Lieutenant Governor, or General Assembly member.
(1) No application to contest the election of a Governor, Lieutenant Governor, or member of the General Assembly shall be heard unless written notice, signed by the party contesting, is given. The notice shall state the grounds of the contest, and none other shall afterwards be heard as coming from that party, but the contestee may make defense without giving counternotice.
(2) In the case of the Governor or Lieutenant Governor, the notice shall be given within thirty (30) days after the final action of the State Board of Elections ...
(3) Immediately after the notice, either party may proceed to take proof by depositions, under the same rules and regulations that govern the taking of depositions in actions in equity, except that no commission shall be required for taking a deposition out of the state. The depositions shall be sealed up by the officer taking them, and directed to the clerk of the Senate or clerk of the House, as the case may require. The depositions properly taken shall be read as evidence before the board or branch of the General Assembly having jurisdiction of the case, and the board or branch may call for and hear other proof. The taking of depositions to be used before a board or branch of the General Assembly shall close ten (10) days before the next meeting of the General Assembly, or, if in session when the notice is given, when the taking is ordered to close.
(4) The costs of the proceeding shall be adjudged against the unsuccessful party, and a certificate thereof shall be given by the clerk of the Senate or the clerk of the House, as the case requires. A judgment for the costs may be obtained after five (5) days' notice in a Circuit Court.
Effective: July 14, 1992
History: Amended 1992 Ky. Acts ch. 288, sec. 55, effective July 14, 1992. -- Amended
1976 (1st Extra. Sess.) Ky. Acts ch. 14, sec. 138, effective January 2, 1978. --
Created 1974 Ky. Acts ch. 130, sec. 167.
https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/law/statutes/statute.aspx?id=27831
Roland99
(53,342 posts)The recanvass is the key
If its different by >1000 then something foul is afoot
Wawannabe
(5,685 posts)On my anger has no where to go on this AND each and every idiotic, daily, hit on democracy. I seethe underneath my skin daily and have to hide it from everyone.
If others could see the frustrated anger boiling in me I am sure they would be shocked to the core. I am no saint in anyones eyes. My level of anger is in outer fucking space. This administration and the GOP defense of it is a literal twilight zone horror flick in reality!!!
Angry is mild for what I feel. But I so get you on the fact that it has nowhere to go.
Some might say vote and etc...but I do/will do that, and protest, and call reps and and and...
My anger is not appeased by these outlets.