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AOC makes Zuckerberg look like the total dipshit you think he is... (Original Post) tenderfoot Oct 2019 OP
Zuckerberg feels no obligation to society. C_U_L8R Oct 2019 #1
SF General became Zuckerberger hospital. He also bought a bunch of houses in the hilly part emmaverybo Oct 2019 #32
And yet his Kauai neighbors despise him. C_U_L8R Oct 2019 #38
Ok. I have to get up to speed. He is probably a more complicated person than I realize and so emmaverybo Oct 2019 #43
Simply, good acts don't necessarily erase the bad ones. C_U_L8R Oct 2019 #44
there's lots of complication. cab67 Oct 2019 #67
Yes Zuckerberg makes small donations while advocating for lower taxes. sharedvalues Oct 2019 #66
He sucks ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #2
She and Porter did their jobs. Proud of these Dems. blm Oct 2019 #3
Both bdamomma Oct 2019 #28
And it shows. blm Oct 2019 #31
He is proof positive that companies like Facebook need to be broken up n/t Blaukraut Oct 2019 #4
True, bdamomma Oct 2019 #30
I love her clarity UpInArms Oct 2019 #5
Her staff deserve credit too, for researching these questions nt spooky3 Oct 2019 #29
"But all my friends are on Facebook!" klook Oct 2019 #6
Ive made it over a year without FB with no problem... VarryOn Oct 2019 #27
I've gone my whole life without Facebook. I've survived. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #54
You're a wiser man than me! I shudder... VarryOn Oct 2019 #55
No, I just wasn't interested in using FB. I'm sure there's plenty of my data out there just the same Garrett78 Oct 2019 #57
Laws need to be passed... VarryOn Oct 2019 #63
What is wrong with Sheryl Sandberg? DURHAM D Oct 2019 #7
$12 million ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #8
That's not how you spell "Billion", almost 2 of them NM Grins Oct 2019 #21
Even beyond her salary, she was already very rich. Blue_true Oct 2019 #17
How many times did he say "Congresswoman"? nt DURHAM D Oct 2019 #9
Every time he opened his FB hole ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #12
Apparenly he was coached to address the reps that way to show respect. brush Oct 2019 #20
Well done kcr Oct 2019 #10
Mark Zuckerberg cares more about saving his fucking company than saving our elections. NCLefty Oct 2019 #11
He is completely void of empathy. DURHAM D Oct 2019 #15
What? He saved General Hospital in SF so it can serve the poor. He and his wife are both emmaverybo Oct 2019 #22
His wife, not him, is making those decisions. DURHAM D Oct 2019 #23
And she would marry a man lacking in empathy? They are both making the decisions and he made emmaverybo Oct 2019 #34
They hired a consultant Red Mountain Oct 2019 #52
Zuck +FB +Genocide in Myanmar+Bloody Hands irisblue Oct 2019 #53
Philanthrop as a cover for abhorrent behavior... tenderfoot Oct 2019 #37
Peskin, an SF supervisor, tried and nurses taped over his name. So far, still bears his name. But emmaverybo Oct 2019 #42
this person is an absolute monster and a real threat to the planet. Philanthropy and charity Kurt V. Oct 2019 #56
oh yes, bdamomma Oct 2019 #33
Zuck will only respond to laws. New, rigorous, laws. Hekate Oct 2019 #13
I just don't think it should be their job... TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #14
Truth is not the issue. Facts are the issue. nt DURHAM D Oct 2019 #16
I don't think they should be determining fact. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #18
Fact are facts. DURHAM D Oct 2019 #19
A bit of irony there. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #24
yet FB algorithms are equipping people with extraordinary ability to destroy others lostnfound Oct 2019 #69
He's a publisher. Publishers should hire editors to edit/police what appears in... brush Oct 2019 #25
One of the ads in question was played across many "publishers." TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #26
You've obviously never worked in a publishing field. It's a responsiblity taken... brush Oct 2019 #35
No more than DU should be in the same business. X_Digger Oct 2019 #49
I urge all Dems to post content stating Republican candidates support the New Green Deal and other.. tenderfoot Oct 2019 #68
Damn, Jesse Eisenberg's new hairstyle is weird. Aviation Pro Oct 2019 #36
AOC 2028! zentrum Oct 2019 #39
Damn Fuckerbug Traildogbob Oct 2019 #40
1. She is BRILLIANT! 2. He is SUCH a weasel. trof Oct 2019 #41
The Magats on social media call her dumb and crazy dustyscamp Oct 2019 #45
Facebook is under no obligation to do shit. X_Digger Oct 2019 #46
Zuckerberg styles his hair like a Roman emperor's. Coincidence? dalton99a Oct 2019 #47
Can you say ..."not ready for prime time"? paleotn Oct 2019 #48
two things: she is really is good at thi and super rich ppl aren't nearly as smart as most ppl think Kurt V. Oct 2019 #50
Not as stupid, either DFW Oct 2019 #58
so basic yak is smart. backed by an army of advisers in law and image he still has to present Kurt V. Oct 2019 #59
Being under that kind scrutiny, bring grilled and getting away with saying nothing requires skill DFW Oct 2019 #60
my points still stand. super rich ppl are given latitude for being exceptionally Kurt V. Oct 2019 #65
AOC is brilliant! wendyb-NC Oct 2019 #51
I saw that! Tom Yossarian Joad Oct 2019 #61
Kudos to her for the great staff work StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #62
❤️👏🏾😄 BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2019 #64

C_U_L8R

(45,000 posts)
1. Zuckerberg feels no obligation to society.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 05:57 PM
Oct 2019

He could help lift us all higher but his misguided philosophy only drags everyone down into the mud. He’s even doing his own brand a tremendous disservice. Wise up, Mark.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
32. SF General became Zuckerberger hospital. He also bought a bunch of houses in the hilly part
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:59 PM
Oct 2019

of Noe Valley.Paid the owners who get to live in their houses for life.Lots of other philanthropy he
and wife, a pediatrician, do.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
43. Ok. I have to get up to speed. He is probably a more complicated person than I realize and so
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:27 PM
Oct 2019

are the issues that drive the ill-will against him.

C_U_L8R

(45,000 posts)
44. Simply, good acts don't necessarily erase the bad ones.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:31 PM
Oct 2019

That's wonderful that Zuck is donating to good causes. Meanwhile he still needs to take responsibility for the character of the community he's built.

cab67

(2,992 posts)
67. there's lots of complication.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:52 PM
Oct 2019

Richard Nixon gave us the Endangered Species Act. He and his wife were major supporters of the American Heart Association.

Ken Cuccinelli once acted very quickly to free a wrongly-convicted man at a time when most prosecutors were still reluctant to admit errors. And he hired the exoneree to work in his office.

Donald Rumsfeld actually has a decent sense of humor.

That doesn't mean I'd want to have them as dinner guests.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
66. Yes Zuckerberg makes small donations while advocating for lower taxes.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:48 PM
Oct 2019

THE DONATIONS ARE PR.
They cover up his campaign for lower taxes.

Our government should be getting billions from him. Which we’d spend on healthcare.
Instead he donates a fraction of that. And much of his donations go to vanity projects.

bdamomma

(63,840 posts)
30. True,
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:57 PM
Oct 2019

those of who use Facebook could move somewhere else to keep in touch with our families. Since the Russians are going to use the same tactics they used in 2016.

klook

(12,154 posts)
6. "But all my friends are on Facebook!"
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:15 PM
Oct 2019

"Without Facebook, I'd have no idea what my kids and grandchildren are doing!"

"How am I going to reach potential customers without Facebook?"

These are just a few of the reasons people maintain an active Facebook presence. So glad I never got sucked in.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
27. Ive made it over a year without FB with no problem...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:54 PM
Oct 2019

Anyone still on it isnt paying attention. I cant believe I was a fool for so long.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
57. No, I just wasn't interested in using FB. I'm sure there's plenty of my data out there just the same
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:04 PM
Oct 2019
 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
63. Laws need to be passed...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:31 PM
Oct 2019

Where it's illegal for companies to keep a person's data beyond a short amount of time without their permission. I read stories all the time where tweets from 3, 5, or 8 year-old tweets resurface or where telecoms still have call data from years ago. I should be able to tell AT&T, Amazon, or Gmail to delete my data after X months or years.

I'm totally willing to forego evidence in criminal cases by forcing the destruction of data. My employer has a four-month data retention policy. Unless I take an affirmative action to save an email, it disappears at four months (yes, I understand it probably lingers somewhere). But, I wish all my calls, web activity, Amazon purchases and etc would do the same permanently if I so chose.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
7. What is wrong with Sheryl Sandberg?
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:16 PM
Oct 2019

She is still COO of Facebook.

She was featured on Finding Your Roots a few months back. Her DNA indicated she is 100% Ashkenazi Jew from Russia.

I know she makes like $12 Million or more a year but how does she live with herself?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. Even beyond her salary, she was already very rich.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:36 PM
Oct 2019

Her late husband was some whiz-kid finance guy who had made lots of money. Before she came to Facebook, she herself was already rich, without her husband's money. To make things even worse, she was once prominent in having many Democratic Party friends.

brush

(53,771 posts)
20. Apparenly he was coached to address the reps that way to show respect.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:41 PM
Oct 2019

The problem is he still comes off like an who wants no part in editing the content he publishes on his site.

He's a publisher. Publishers employ editors to edit/police content that appears on their site/newspaper/magazine/book/TV channel. It's not rocket science.

He just doesn't want to reduce his profit margin, which is humongous, by paying professional editors. For all he cares 2016 can happen all over again, just don't mess with the cash flow.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
22. What? He saved General Hospital in SF so it can serve the poor. He and his wife are both
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:44 PM
Oct 2019

philanthropists. Sure, he is very misguided on the ad propaganda issue. He is plain wrong. But
he is not a Trump.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
34. And she would marry a man lacking in empathy? They are both making the decisions and he made
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:08 PM
Oct 2019

the money which he has used to better people’s lives.

Red Mountain

(1,732 posts)
52. They hired a consultant
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:48 PM
Oct 2019

Gave them a budget and Voila! Good vibes at a minimal cost.

Spending money like this is an investment for them. There's no heart involved.

They seriously don't give a damn about anything other than the positive PR.

If they did they'd be doing a whole hell of a lot more.

irisblue

(32,969 posts)
53. Zuck +FB +Genocide in Myanmar+Bloody Hands
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:54 PM
Oct 2019

Source-https://www.lawfareblog.com/facebooks-role-genocide-myanmar-new-reporting-complicates-narrative

More at article

Snip-"Members of the Myanmar military have systematically used Facebook as a tool in the government’s campaign of ethnic cleansing against Myanmar’s Rohingya Muslim minority, according to an incredible piece of reporting by the New York Times on Oct. 15. The Times writes that the military harnessed Facebook over a period of years to disseminate hate propaganda, false news and inflammatory posts. The story adds to the horrors known about the ongoing violence in Myanmar, but it also should complicate the ongoing debate about Facebook’s role and responsibility for spreading hate and exacerbating conflict in Myanmar and other developing countries."


So he is careful to donate $$$$$ in the US. He is still a bad human.


There are many articles online about FB + murders

tenderfoot

(8,426 posts)
37. Philanthrop as a cover for abhorrent behavior...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:17 PM
Oct 2019

Fuck that shit. BTW, didn't the hospital ask to remove his name?

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
42. Peskin, an SF supervisor, tried and nurses taped over his name. So far, still bears his name. But
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:25 PM
Oct 2019

you are right. Question of possible anti-Semitic behavior in FB vs, Soros.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
56. this person is an absolute monster and a real threat to the planet. Philanthropy and charity
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:02 PM
Oct 2019

does not solve root problems but only provide pr and a band aid.

 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
14. I just don't think it should be their job...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:32 PM
Oct 2019

To be arbiters of the truth. I get that’s not popular here. I do think they have responsibility to not let their platform be used by nefarious agents from outside of the country or illegal activity, domestic or foreign.

lostnfound

(16,176 posts)
69. yet FB algorithms are equipping people with extraordinary ability to destroy others
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 06:26 AM
Oct 2019

The ability to amplify voices across the world or to silence them is not a subset of free speech, it’s a subset of publishing or freedom of the press.
In some ways, there’s a parallel to 2nd amendment arguments. Founding fathers never anticipated AR15s.

brush

(53,771 posts)
25. He's a publisher. Publishers should hire editors to edit/police what appears in...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:48 PM
Oct 2019

their publication. Newspapers, magazine publishers, TV channels and book publishers do it because they consider it their responsibility to fact check and publish the truth.

Perhaps since he didn't go to J-school he doesn't have that ingrained in him like J-school graduates do, or perhaps he doesn't to diminish his humongous profit margin by hiring editors to edit/police what goes on his platform.

 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
26. One of the ads in question was played across many "publishers."
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:52 PM
Oct 2019

I don’t see it as their job, to an extent.

brush

(53,771 posts)
35. You've obviously never worked in a publishing field. It's a responsiblity taken...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:10 PM
Oct 2019

seriously by those who do. Occasionally errors slip by editors but corrections/retractions are soon made. If your publication gets a reputation for publishing lies and non-truths, your reputation suffers (see D. trump, the liar in the WH. Also see how the NYT corrected their error for publishing that Hillary Clinton said Russia was grooming Gabbard for a third party run. Their retraction corrected that by publishing that she actually said that the GOP was grooming Gabbard).

It's publishing 101.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
49. No more than DU should be in the same business.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:42 PM
Oct 2019

It's not a government-run website, any more than DU is.

Therefore they can do pretty much whatever they please.

tenderfoot

(8,426 posts)
68. I urge all Dems to post content stating Republican candidates support the New Green Deal and other..
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 09:10 PM
Oct 2019

progressive causes and watch that tidal wave 46 go flat.

Traildogbob

(8,726 posts)
40. Damn Fuckerbug
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:22 PM
Oct 2019

Worth billions and that's the best you can do with your hair style? Go see the stylist for the weasel Bengazi Chairman, Trey "Gawdy", at least she had some imagination.

trof

(54,256 posts)
41. 1. She is BRILLIANT! 2. He is SUCH a weasel.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:24 PM
Oct 2019

I had no idea what a fucking jerk this multibillionaire is.
He NEEDS a reality check and a comeuppance.

dustyscamp

(2,224 posts)
45. The Magats on social media call her dumb and crazy
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:31 PM
Oct 2019

If they took the time to actually listen to her they'd find that she is a very smart and professional congresswoman

dalton99a

(81,460 posts)
47. Zuckerberg styles his hair like a Roman emperor's. Coincidence?
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:41 PM
Oct 2019
https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-fascinated-by-augustus-future-of-facebook-2018-9
Mark Zuckerberg has been fascinated by Augustus Caesar for years, and it raises some questions about the future of Facebook
Áine Cain
Sep 14, 2018, 11:57 AM



paleotn

(17,912 posts)
48. Can you say ..."not ready for prime time"?
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 07:41 PM
Oct 2019

Proof positive that money doesn't always go to the sharpest, most well rounded, informed knives in the drawer. Dear God, son. You can afford the most expensive and lavish prep humanly possible for this little trip to Congress and you get run over like a three legged opossum on a five day bender. And your company wants to float some jackass "currency"? Ummm, no.

DFW

(54,369 posts)
58. Not as stupid, either
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:04 PM
Oct 2019

He just had a direct grilling by a very smart member of the House, who used the classic prosecutor's tactic (ask questions to which you already know the answers), and the whole time managed to yak away while saying absolutely nothing. He is nowhere as stupid as we wished he were.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
59. so basic yak is smart. backed by an army of advisers in law and image he still has to present
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:13 PM
Oct 2019

himself. of which he did pretty bad. you and i are literally smarter than he is but have morals.

DFW

(54,369 posts)
60. Being under that kind scrutiny, bring grilled and getting away with saying nothing requires skill
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:17 PM
Oct 2019

He is no idiot, just an immoral bright guy. That wasn't basic yak. Lenny Bruce called it "spritzing," only in Legalese. Zuckerberg knew exactly what he was doing. AOC knew he was doing it, too, and did her best to show him up.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
65. my points still stand. super rich ppl are given latitude for being exceptionally
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 08:45 PM
Oct 2019

smart and that's not true.

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