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applegrove

(118,022 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:00 PM Oct 2019

Florida GOP leaders finally utter 'sea level rise,' lament 'lost decade'

Florida GOP leaders finally utter ‘sea level rise,’ lament ‘lost decade’

BY MARY ELLEN KLAS Miami HERALD/TIMES

TALLAHASSEE BUREAU

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article236215368.html

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Among the plans still behind the curve: the Florida Department of Transportation, which has not planned for a two-foot rise in sea level, said Will Watts, chief engineer of FDOT.

He told the committee while the agency builds bridges that can sustain 100-year storms, and builds stormwater retention ponds based on 25-year storm frequency, it is just starting to try to work toward anticipating what will happen when seas rise two feet.

Jennifer Jurado, chief resilience officer for Broward County, described how the impact is already “incredibly problematic.”

King tides and sunny-day flooding are disrupting postal delivery in many communities, eroding utility boxes, requiring law enforcement to manage traffic corridors where flooding has closed roads, she said.

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Florida GOP leaders finally utter 'sea level rise,' lament 'lost decade' (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2019 OP
Oops. We destroyed Florida. But still vote for us! We won't take away your gun! Beakybird Oct 2019 #1
We're the party of ethically bankrupt corruption, but we play a mean round of golf ffr Oct 2019 #11
They need to build a 20 foot retention wall around the BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #2
Not with my tax dollars. roamer65 Oct 2019 #5
Really? You don't want the pleasure of Florida Man and Florida Woman neighbors? Blue_true Oct 2019 #29
That won't work in Florida genxlib Oct 2019 #13
No more rebuilding along the shore. Delmette2.0 Oct 2019 #19
Soon they are going to pivot and blame democrats for that lost decade.nt drray23 Oct 2019 #3
They will do that for sure. applegrove Oct 2019 #6
Make climate deniers stay and not migrate. roamer65 Oct 2019 #4
Poor people are selling their homes to the rich in some place in Miami because applegrove Oct 2019 #8
Former Gov Voldemort mcar Oct 2019 #7
I doubt there will be a Florida by century's end. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #9
You are right. roamer65 Oct 2019 #10
The East Coast is so screwed. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #20
We will lose most of the Southeast. roamer65 Oct 2019 #33
K&R real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #12
I only wish I had been the one to post the following on this topic: hatrack Oct 2019 #14
The lost decade wasn't lost by mistake but by design. Mike 03 Oct 2019 #15
Only one solution... durablend Oct 2019 #16
Love that gif,bugs I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2019 #26
I love the way he does a hurrah at the very end. TheBlackAdder Oct 2019 #32
Florida Man Drowns After Ignoring Warnings dalton99a Oct 2019 #17
Rick Scott's Legacy HAB911 Oct 2019 #18
Here is the thing about Republicans during a National crisis that tells you how much integrity... WyattKansas Oct 2019 #21
You just reminded me of the story about how a family's house was left to burn due to an unpaid fee. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #22
That awful not mention cruel MustLoveBeagles Oct 2019 #25
But the Democrats were already whining about climate change! tanyev Oct 2019 #23
Just ensure that Rick Scott goes out with the high water malaise Oct 2019 #24
Are they allowed to say "climate change" now? Vinca Oct 2019 #27
A lot of multi-million dollar beach homes are going to need escape boats. Blue_true Oct 2019 #28
K&R UTUSN Oct 2019 #30
You know how sections of Calif. sunk 30 or more feet from pumping water out of the ground. . . TheBlackAdder Oct 2019 #31
Like Trump they'll claim "Nobody knew!" lunatica Oct 2019 #34

ffr

(22,649 posts)
11. We're the party of ethically bankrupt corruption, but we play a mean round of golf
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:38 PM
Oct 2019

Time to set the the KGOP packing!

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
2. They need to build a 20 foot retention wall around the
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:08 PM
Oct 2019

entire state. Half the cities along all coasts need to do this too. They are building one around the SF airport now. Amsterdam has been reinforcing theirs for years and years (their govt is realistic and smart).

roamer65

(36,739 posts)
5. Not with my tax dollars.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:10 PM
Oct 2019

...and I don’t want them migrating up north either.

Make the climate deniers stay. Swim or drown.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
29. Really? You don't want the pleasure of Florida Man and Florida Woman neighbors?
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 07:17 PM
Oct 2019

I live in Florida. We just need to retake the state from the GOP (democrats had it for a long time, but they were the Dixiecrat variety).

genxlib

(5,508 posts)
13. That won't work in Florida
Thu Oct 17, 2019, 07:25 AM
Oct 2019

The ground is too porous. The water would just bubble up through the rock

Delmette2.0

(4,143 posts)
19. No more rebuilding along the shore.
Thu Oct 17, 2019, 04:33 PM
Oct 2019

I admit I live in a land locked state. It just does not make sense for cities, banks or insurance companies to approve rebuilding any structure destroyed by a hurricane or storm along a coastline that will be destroyed again.

applegrove

(118,022 posts)
8. Poor people are selling their homes to the rich in some place in Miami because
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:15 PM
Oct 2019

they are on higher land. So the rich are mitigating. They just can't do so as easily if everyone else is well informed. Kind of the basis of republican philosophy. The rich are selling their soin to be underwater real estate to middle class if you watch the beachside bargan shows.

hatrack

(59,442 posts)
14. I only wish I had been the one to post the following on this topic:
Thu Oct 17, 2019, 09:11 AM
Oct 2019

Reactionary to English translations:

“Lost”, as in “We lost a decade,’’ = “We threw away, for the whole world, the most crucial decade in history, and now a few of us would like to take it back”

“paradigm shift” = “finally admitting what I knew all along, since I’ve made hundreds of thousands in that tee hee, ‘lost’ decade and can now escape the effects of what I’ve done. Screw those other monkeys.”

“what good is it for Florida to change its policies when India and China are big producers of greenhouse gases.” = “I haven’t made quite enough for the lodge near Jasper National Park so let’s not be too hasty rejoining reality.” (By the way, the policies of the US are leading us to 4° up while India’s are leading to 2°. Guardian)

“I think reality is going to set in and, if it doesn’t, it’s going to hit us right in the face.
That’s a great idea: setting them in concrete up to their faces in various places in Miami Beach and letting it literally hit them in the face.


https://climatecrocks.com/2019/10/16/we-lost-a-decade-florida-repubs-start-to-whisper-climate-change/#comments

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
15. The lost decade wasn't lost by mistake but by design.
Thu Oct 17, 2019, 09:15 AM
Oct 2019

They should thank Rick Scott for playing his part in ignoring and punishing scientists who stood up for the right thing. There's a wonderful book about this topic called "Drying Up" by John Dunn.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,452 posts)
26. Love that gif,bugs
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 05:17 PM
Oct 2019

Should saw off the southern states and let all the oil and gas executives stay put in the red States as they drift and sink into the sea with all the trump lackeys and the entire republican party on it.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
21. Here is the thing about Republicans during a National crisis that tells you how much integrity...
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 03:27 PM
Oct 2019

Republicans really have.

Republicans still want to be the ones screeching NO!!!! and then fully expect for any opposition to bribe and concede everything they have to the Republicans to do what is in the National best interest or right thing.

It's kind of like the Fire Department showing up when a neighbor calls 911 as you arrive home, but the Fire Department just stands there until you start slipping each of them cash to get out of the trucks. Then the Fire Captain tells you to sign over the Deed to your property, before they put out the fire.

Yes, Republicans are that fucking ate up with squirming up Mammon's ass. Republicans are never going to do anything unless they get rewarded massive profits from it.

tanyev

(42,360 posts)
23. But the Democrats were already whining about climate change!
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 03:56 PM
Oct 2019

That forced us to oppose it! It’s their fault!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. A lot of multi-million dollar beach homes are going to need escape boats.
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 07:13 PM
Oct 2019

But at least Florida republican leaders appear to have one eye part of the way out of their asses.

TheBlackAdder

(28,076 posts)
31. You know how sections of Calif. sunk 30 or more feet from pumping water out of the ground. . .
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 08:36 PM
Oct 2019

.




Plant City, FL was suffering sinkholes and the replacement of sea water into the area where fresh water existed.




There must have been some similar settlement of the ground across Florida too, with all of the water they use.

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