Remember once trump is removed from office we still have to deal with Pence...

[Joe941]

He might be worse than tRump. Just saying...

[louis-t]

1. I just have a feeling that if Pence took over

he would likely hide for the next year and not show his face. He just seems like that kind of coward.

[pandr32]

6. He has a whole lot to hide from

[pangaia]

2. He could be worse because to the blind and deaf he will seem normal

He is a sick human breing

He must go down wirth trump

[FirstLight]

3. I think Pence is gonna be implicated too somewhere

so I'm not too worried about him... He's a much lesser threat than the crazy shitgibbon

[Johnny2X2X]

4. If Trump is removed Pence won't even run in 2020 though

The Reps will not have a serious candidate. Will be a blowout.

And the Rep party will be fractured because Trump will take them down with him.

[beachbumbob]

5. But pence is pretty much unelectable in Nov 2020 and

the trump base will put the hate on the GOP for voting to remove trump. Unless democrats put on a terrible investigation and back off, this is a win win regardless if trump is removed.

[TreasonousBastard]

18. Pence is irrelevant-- if Trump is out they'll get a real candidate...

Romney is slavering over the thought.

And, laugh or whine all you want, all bets are off if they come up with anyone reasonable.

[meadowlander]

7. If Trump has to go, he'll drag Pence down with him.

Can you imagine him sitting quietly watching a God-bothering dweeb from a flyover state sitting in *his* chair?

And even if Pence does manage to emerge from this cesspool smelling like roses, he'll still have a Democratic House of Representatives to hold him in check.

[lame54]

8. Nobody but nobody is worse than Trump...

Pence can't slide into Trump's adoration

If he wants to survive he will have to play it straight

He can't pull off the crimes Trump has gotten away with

[scrabblequeen40]

9. Pence may be complicit

Wouldn't be shocked if the man of gawd himself is exposed as a wolf in sheep's clothing. He can get ensnared by knowing about the call and participating in meetings about the cover-up.

[ffr]

10. You left out the part about Pence's cover-up in today's transcript. He was the one called upon

to act on behalf of the president in his discussions with Mr. Zelensky.

And
you
can
look
that
up.

[dalton99a]

23. +1

[peggysue2]

11. From what I'm reading . . .

Pence is up to his eyeballs in the Ukrainian mess. Trump, Pence and the entire team of criminals need to go. Out the door and into the courts. Needless to say, the Republican Party will crumble in their wake. Couldn't happen to a better bunch, IMHO!

[TidalWave46]

12. Bring on Pence!!!! NT

[lpbk2713]

13. We'll have to put the entire rethuglicant party on trial then.

Wouldn't it be nice.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

14. He won't be--Lame Duck. Tainted goods.

Plus no personality.

Lots of things to use against him.

Bring him on. He's Weak with a capital W.

[dalton99a]

24. He has the charisma of a funeral director

who wants to empty your grandma's bank account

[maveric]

36. He's a sock puppet.

Vacant.

[INdemo]

15. Pence could not handle his Indiana Governors job and he was sure to

loose his bid for re-election

[Roland99]

16. Pence just spoke to Zelensky when he was in Warsaw, right?

No way his fake christian hands aren’t filthy

[djg21]

17. Reality check: Trump will not be removed.

He may be impeached, but the Senate will never vote to remove him so long as it is in the hands of treasonous Republicans like McConnell, who put party over politics and are willing to overlook Trump’s illegal conduct if it means appointing wing nuts to the courts.

Trump will leave only after we elect a new President or win back the Senate so he can be impeached and removed.

[Joe941]

21. Winning the senate isn't enough, you need 2/3rds to remove.

[djg21]

22. I'm aware.

There is no chance at this point that the Senate will vote to remove Trump. Maybe things will change as more evidence is gathered, but I wouldn’t bank on it.

[bluestarone]

26. This is TRUE! My thinking here is

IF they remove tRUMP, then they have to remove Pence because HE was in it to his eyeballs as well! THEY WON'T do it!

[Blues Heron]

28. He will resign, and soon

It's over. The long national nightmare is over. Check. Mate. Resign.

[djg21]

31. Not likely

If Trump resigns, he will be subject to prosecution for various alleged crimes in New York and perhaps elsewhere, even if he is pardoned by Pence. His ego and narcissistic personalitY disorder likely would be an impediment as well. Nixon was far smarter and had far more class and respect for this country and its institutions (which isn’t saying much).

[Blues Heron]

38. let me put it this way - it won't be his descision, just like Nixon

his support will crumble, then... buh bye

It's all over but the cryin. check, mate, resign.

[themaguffin]

19. That's a non issue

[NewJeffCT]

20. I thiink Pence, Miller and a few others

have basically been running the day-to-day show anyhow.

A few points

1) Pence has 0 charisma and was unpopular in RED Indiana before being named Trump's VP. He won't fire up the Deplorable Base like Trump did.

2) Without Trump dominating the news cycle, the media will be able to pay more attention to the horrific Trump/GOP policies

3) As a WARNING - Here in my state of Connecticut, Super-Corrupt Republican John Rowland resigned in the face of impeachment. The woman that was his lieutenant governor for the previous 10 years took office and was able to get the media to believe she knew nothing about all the corruption around Rowland. (the local editorial cartoonist put her head on a Snow White costume, for example) - she won election to a full term 2 years later by a record margin because she was so popular.

[librechik]

25. If he's involved in this (and he is) we will be looking at President Pelosi

[vlyons]

27. He would focus on his religious issues

anti-abortion, anti-LGBT, anti-ERA, prayer in schools, Christian charter schools, etc etc

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

29. I never understood this form of...

...conjecture and speculation.

First, I doubt if Pence could come even close to galvanizing the racist cultist the way 45 days. Pence lacks charisma.
Secondly, even suggesting that Pence is going to be worse is suggesting we should keep the current pers...hum...breathing being in office, and that doesn't seem logical.

Lastly, so what if he's worse?!?!? We have a constitution and laws and a rich history of activism. We can deal with it.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

30. Pence is weak and stupid. He would suck as a president but

because he'll have the stank of Trump all over him nobody will take him seriously. Since he's been wading in Trump's cesspool he'll have to be damn careful he doesn't get investigated too. I can't imagine he'd be the GOP's 2020 candidate if Trump is out.

[SeaTownBlue]

32. Sanford 2020!

Careful on them trails.

[Hoyt]

33. Two years ago, I would -- and did -- agree. But trump needs to go.

[Blue_Tires]

34. Get rid of the cancer *FIRST*

deal with the aftermath later...

[Takket]

35. Pence will be a powerless lame duck

He is not even remotely the threat drumpf is.

[Historic NY]

37. If Trump is gone before Nov 2020, Pence would have to

then run...if he's exposed as a complicit party there a good chance he will be gone or unable to get enough time to run. We also know he has a campaign teams waiting in the wings. My theory is Trump will resign giving him enough time and holding out for his pardon.