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CNN - Trump incredulous after his moves on transparency failed to stop Pelosi
New York(CNN) President Donald Trump was incredulous Tuesday as he sat in Trump Tower and watched House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announce she was launching a formal impeachment inquiry against him, sources familiar with the moment say. Sitting in the same building where he launched his long shot presidential campaign four years ago, Trump said he couldn't believe it, he later told people.
He had felt confident after phoning Pelosi earlier that morning. The drive for impeachment in her caucus had ramped up amid reports he pushed the Ukrainian President to investigate Joe Biden, and Trump was hoping to head off a clash. He figured he could de-escalate tensions by speaking with her directly.
It was after that call that Trump made the decision to release an "unredacted" version of the transcript of his July call -- against the advice of aides such as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who warned him it would set a risky precedent. Trump wanted to undercut the argument from Democrats that he acted inappropriately, he said, and felt he had nothing to hide.
But when the announcement he would release the transcript did little to quell the growing calls for his impeachment, Trump was in disbelief.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/donald-trump-incredulous-nancy-pelosi-impeachment/index.html
THE BEST WORDS
Madam Speaker
Arkansas Granny
(31,530 posts)Go get him, Nancy!
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Mr. Evil
(2,856 posts)Dem2theMax
(9,653 posts)Thank you for the LOL moment! That was perfect.
bonniebgood
(943 posts)tavalon
(27,985 posts)for your moment of Zen. Snort!
erronis
(15,330 posts)I just hope he lives quite a while longer so he can be justly punished on earth. Before meeting his just rewards elsewhere.
pertello
(55 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,040 posts)... David Frum (edited for brevity)
struggle4progress
(118,342 posts)Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)MagickMuffin
(15,952 posts)SINCE YOU RODE DOWN THE ESCALATOR.
You have only escalated your grifting talents.
lindysalsagal
(20,731 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)That's crazy. That phone call was a disaster.
underpants
(182,879 posts)After Pelosi's historic announcement, Trump immediately began lashing out, accusing Democrats of distracting from his successes at the United Nations General Assembly and arguing it was just "more breaking news Witch Hunt garbage."
But people close to him said he is not welcoming this impeachment fight. The President who keeps a careful watch on his approval numbers was unhappy.
This also isn't the first time Trump has misread Pelosi. He also told aides he wasn't that worried when Democrats won the House after the 2018 midterms because he thought they would be easier to work with than some of the Republicans he had been forced to deal with, like former House Speaker Paul Ryan. Six committees are now investigating Trump, ranging from his tax returns to his policies in office.
tanyev
(42,613 posts)He mumbled his way through an incoherent speech. Delusional.
underpants
(182,879 posts)His big grand day in front of the world using it as a campaign event. Nationalism! Death to Globalism!
Its all anyone would be talking about.
He got to go back to his gilded shithole and then use his cunning and negotiation skills to trick Nancy and it all blew up in his face.
Fritz Walter
(4,292 posts)Between his entourage of lackeys/Secret Service agents, and the foreign heads of state hoping to curry favor with the curry-colored pussy ass bitch while they in NYC, that part of the Drumpf Organization -- and I use that last word loosely -- is actually showing a profit. An obscene profit based on emoluments, but still... in the black.
So,... success!
vlyons
(10,252 posts)there's what Trump tells himself about himself. That little voice in his head that blathers on and on and on self-cherishing how great and wonderful he is. And everyone who doesn't acknowledge his wonderfulness is an ugly loser. He appears to me as pathetic.
underpants
(182,879 posts)He can't even play a round of golf without cheating. I'm sure he chuckles to himself about gaming people who never notice it or just shake their heads at him.
The Emperor Has No Clothes.
BSdetect
(8,999 posts)stopdiggin
(11,361 posts)and I think the "intelligence" people overrode him on that anyway. Congress will see a "redacted" transcript in several days is the latest. It's all silly, and assumes the rest of the world can be played just like FOX. NOBODY ever thought this was all about a single phone call. Multiple contacts, by multiple individuals (Guiliani, state dept.). And the real issue goes back to stiffing congress (again) on the whistleblower complaint.
unblock
(52,319 posts)it's really baffling to me, seeing exactly which straw breaks the camel's back.
really, what is so different, surprising, unique, offensive, or whatever about ukraine compared to the huge history of outrageous crap from donnie over the last four years?
i mean, why is asking a foreign government to help him smear a political opponent a disaster *this* time when it worked so well *last* time? and why was nothing else he did enough to get him impeached?
maybe it was because democrats pounced all over this one and just responded to it more effectively, i don't know.
anyway, happy. confused, but happy.
IphengeniaBlumgarten
(328 posts)Without other evidence, Trump could have been the passive recipient of Russia's assistance in 2015.
This time, Trump is actively involved in requesting assistance from a foreign government and holding up their defense funding to bully them into acquiescence. And there is apparently evidence.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)of impeachable offenses, this one is very concise and easily understandable after the muddled Russian acts of betrayal. The politics for whatever reasons thankfully do feel different.
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)So many other times they've just looked away and pretended it wasn't happening. Now they all get it - even the angry voters in Dumbfuckistan get it. The GOP can't look away and many of them are going to lose their seats, unless they dump Chump quickly.
My guess is the Repukes don't even want this to go to a full out Watergate-type hearing because that would doom all of them. There will be a scramble to get Chump to resign - quickly - before the GOP's dirty laundry gets aired on national TV. If I'm wrong, then we're watching the self-destruction of the Republican Party.
czarjak
(11,289 posts)underpants
(182,879 posts)Love both gif and the meme
TxVietVet
(1,905 posts)bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)We know now what the stakes are and how he operates.
He is personally on official records soliciting foreign gov't help to smear a political opponent.
Clear, concise, and figuratively in broad daylight on 5th Avenue.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,654 posts)I think too many Republicans were tainted with Russian connections, especially through donations. It may be easier to get them on board with this because they won't be personally dragged in to it like they would the Russia probe. Just a guess, but I'm wondering if I'm getting warm here.
unblock
(52,319 posts)they may see this as a way to be rid of disaster donnie with an individual scandal rather than a party-wide scandal.
TxVietVet
(1,905 posts)Conservanazis being indebted to the Russians. They dont want any exposure. My guess as more evidence comes out, tRumpf, mike Pants and many conservanazis were accepting Russkie cash. Also the NRA. They may get tRumpf to let Pence resign, appointment a conservanazi toady to VP and then let tRumpf resign. The conservanazis want to use the power of the presidency to get the conservanazi agenda passed thru Congress.
delisen
(6,044 posts)That is one difference.
Another is what I consider the brilliant moves of Pelosi. She signaled strongly there would be no impeachment, took the heat from the pro-impeachment Dems, and now has been able to announce impeachment hearings without getting blamed in any way for being partisan.
She has managed to open up the divide in the Republican Party that Republican leadership was hiding.
I think of her as Nancy- don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes-Pelosi.
Phoenix61
(17,019 posts)Sure wouldnt want to get on her bad side. I think shes been waiting for something just like this. She knew it was just a matter of time before Twitler screwed up in a huge way that could be presented in a way that even the dumbest could understand.
RAB910
(3,509 posts)On a side note, they should use a word like "incredulous" because Trump has no clue what it means
OAITW r.2.0
(24,610 posts)I cannot understand how Trump would think this somehow exonerates him. He really isn't very bright with his political instincts.
sarge43
(28,945 posts)All he knows is a silly 'reality' show and shady business deals. That's what he 'thinks' is the sum total of the presidency. In fact, that's the sum of his knowledge.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,040 posts)Texin
(2,597 posts)of ethical behavior, nor so devoid of actual intelligence before. He thought THAT version of the transcript would get him off the hook? Incredible. Just incredible.
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)In his simple mind there had to be a simple "quid pro quo", if you do this I'll do that, to be a crime.
He still thinks he can operate like a shady real estate agent neglecting to mention the murder that happened in the back bedroom.
Retrograde
(10,156 posts)she's used to dealing with 3-year-olds.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)years of following the Speaker one thing stands out about her ability. She is old school politics,no messing around,and she never plays her opponents. Notice she told him to do something and that is that.
struggle4progress
(118,342 posts)wcast
(595 posts)I've thought for a long time that he didn't want to be impeached. Not because of any consequences but because of the taint it imbues on his "legacy".
SWBTATTReg
(22,166 posts)marlakay
(11,493 posts)I bet he thinks all of them are weak why he isnt worried about Elizabeth Warren.
When he wakes up to how tough they are he will be the weak one like a paper tiger.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,530 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,129 posts)you played back when you were running beauty pageants and older, tougher Italian-American grandmothers in positions of power. And youre finding it out.
Vive la difference!
Xolodno
(6,401 posts)...knowing the Senate is unlikely to convict, he'll sell one of his people down the river like Michael Cohen or "another coffee boy". They go to jail, he gets the scandal to go away.
Didn't work this time.
Leith
(7,813 posts)He's a complete and total idiot who thinks he will rise to heaven and sit at the deity's right side. In reality, he would squirt white innards if someone stepped on him.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Integrity wins.
sdfernando
(4,941 posts)I like this.....and the orange pustule doesn't know what avarice means.....so much the better!
Harker
(14,035 posts)Captain Zero
(6,823 posts)#winning "hey Obama never did this !!"
mnhtnbb
(31,404 posts)and removed from office.
He certainly deserves it.
The Senate Republicans may see it as the opportunity to save their party.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Spin it that way so he looks forward to it.
intrepidity
(7,336 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Rookie mistake, dude. It's like your head's not even in the game, like you're just coasting, thinking that all you have to do is roll the ball out, and you win. That woman just ate your lunch, man.
underpants
(182,879 posts)I hate one line threads but Ive been working on that all morning
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)apropos since this has been a horror story
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)Let's remember that Donald Trump is a pathological liar with zero credibility.
Nothing he says or tweets is to be taken at face value -- even if he's just talking about something he ostensibly felt or thought.
wiggs
(7,817 posts)should all be talking about how this is not an isolated incident of misconduct and treachery and proceed to list ALL potential misdeeds. They may not end up bringing articles on all of them, but ALL of them should be part of the conversation so that this Ukraine episode is put in the proper, accurate context of a history of criminal, immoral, improper, self serving actions.
dlk
(11,576 posts)When youre already a very stable genius...
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)doing this to him.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)We have disbelieved his lies since he "took over."
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)for $5,500, is it Donnie? This is the United States government. They have a Constitution, and you're NOT going to be able to scare them off with a little litigation. They play for real, and you are seriously understaffed, no matter how many sleezebag lawyers you throw at them.
Javaman
(62,534 posts)"that boy ain't right".
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Because you know, he knows how to handle broads. No problem. Pelosi's an old gal, and they're always so grateful when a real man like him pretends to pay attention to their screeching and turns on the charm.
Dames turn to putty in his hands...
machoneman
(4,010 posts)badly. I mean really, Pelosi says follow the law or else (too late for him) and he's blindsided?
Great news is that the stain of an actual impeachment, and I'm sure now it will follow, will always have an asterisk next to his name for ever and ever!
I told her that I was amazed Trump ponied up the transcript, against I'm sure the advice of his lawyers, Pompous, and his butt-head COS, as it does clearly delineate his treason. My girlfriend, a past but no more Trumper (she's more a staunch Republican, whatever) replied that since he never listens to good advice and often goes 180 degrees from what others say, she's not surprised he's self-indicted himself!
Pelosi...for the win!!!!!!!!!
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)would have any problem?
His entire "business" career has been bluff, bullshit, and bullying. If he can't get what he wants with those, or overpaying, he just walks away.
And, aside from being the world's worst negotiator, he is absolutely incapable of running a business he managed to overpay for. Witness Trump Air, New Jersey Generals, the Plaza Hotel, and, of course, his casinos.
Cha
(297,655 posts)to be impeached".. I guess not!
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)Wow, he really is clueless. He's in his own damn narcissistic bubble. He really does think he's the perfect human specimen. And yet he's still an ignorant buffoon - and a failed businessman.
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Beartracks
(12,821 posts)Quelle surprise!
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Marthe48
(17,021 posts)Right Danny, right? (the scene where Smails doesn't want Danny to talk about his niece)
And then: Judge Smails: 'I guess you don't want that scholarship do you?' Danny, 'I guess I don't' Smails: I guess I don't, I guess I don't.'
Go, Madame Speaker, go!
underpants
(182,879 posts)Marthe48
(17,021 posts)I'got the movie on dvd, almost got it out to watch after I posted.
Kid Berwyn
(14,958 posts)Said the Speaker of the House.
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MFM008
(19,818 posts)Maggot was deflated.
Flat.
Monotone.
JDC
(10,133 posts)Freethinker65
(10,048 posts)Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)She was being interviewed by the Atlantic, and mentioned that she had a call with Trump that morning, and was asked "How did THAT go," and she smiled...started to laugh, actually.
This is why Trump said she has "lost her way" in his train-wreck of a presser this afternoon. She lost her way because she chose to not board the Trump Train, and he refuses to understand that. After all, the guy who had a book ghost-written for him called "Art of the Deal" is supposed to make artful deals, right?
ecstatic
(32,731 posts)is shows that there are no adults left at the White House. We're in super duper dangerous territory right now. The good news is, with no adults left, it should be really easy to get all of them removed (nobody left to say, "umm... maybe you shouldn't say that??" .
tavalon
(27,985 posts)Risky President. What a fucking moron.
Aussie105
(5,434 posts)Trump: I'm just a poor boy from a poor family. Work with me.
Nancy: No!
Trump: I'm just a businessman trying to get one up on a competitor. Nothing wrong with that, surely?
Nancy: No!
Trump: It's a hoax!
Nancy: No!
Trump: Witch hunt!
Nancy: Almost right! It's a WARLOCK hunt! And I think we caught one!
Trump: Not fair!
Nancy: Good!
Blue Owl
(50,498 posts)n/t
NoMoreRepugs
(9,459 posts)The Pelosi naysayers here at DU owe her and the DU community their apologies.
rocktivity
(44,577 posts)from the Rope-A-Dope Kid...
rocktivity
louis-t
(23,297 posts)The trumpers in my office are talking about their grand kids, and putting up pictures of their dogs, and I haven't seen a red hat in I can't tell you how long. They talk in whispers if they bring the guy up. They still claim he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but it's under their breath. They are losing faith slowly. I have a client who loves to show off some kind of pass card that he says allows him access to the WH. Looks like a credit card with maga slogan on it. I can't wait to ask him if the card will give him access to dotard when he is in jail.