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bluestarone

(16,854 posts)
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 12:57 PM Sep 2019

Is it all about MONEY, GUNS and Religion?

Obama, and the Democratic party SAVED this country from almost complete destruction! (didn't people see this)? Now the RETHUGS are even worse. When we win in 2020 the DEM. president will inherit an almost unfixable country. i'm sure RT wing radio and news have a lot to do with it.( I understand this) The trouble i have is with Religious leaders. How could any religious leader support RUMP? Their eyes are closed or heads are in the sand. We have to turn this around somehow. Any thoughts on what else turned people against us?

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keithbvadu2

(36,645 posts)
12. Religion and politics use each other to gain power and wealth.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 02:05 PM
Sep 2019

Religion and politics use each other to gain power and wealth.

Prosper

(761 posts)
2. Right wing religious supporter
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 01:05 PM
Sep 2019

She explained to me how it is all unfolding relative to scripture. She told me earlier that events with Israel this past summer would bring revelations. When I asked what happened she said my lack of faith prevents me from seeing all the wonderful evolving around me. That is representative of all the Trump faithful.

pandr32

(11,551 posts)
5. It's about power
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 01:14 PM
Sep 2019

...and replicating that power. This is done through money, guns, religion, schools, and media.
There is a base that is completely subjugated already, but thanks to social media popularity troubled and impressionable people are easier to reach and influence. We are awash with misinformation.

Initech

(100,033 posts)
6. It's all about the right wing's quest for absolute power.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 01:19 PM
Sep 2019

They hide behind money, guns and religion as excuses to usurp more power every election.

bluestarone

(16,854 posts)
9. Wonder what their God will tell them to do when they LOSE in 2020?
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 01:42 PM
Sep 2019

Could be very scary time. (If tRUMP is their God) We need to be ready for Anything!

underpants

(182,599 posts)
8. Lee Atwater's God Guns and Gays. Well they've lost the gays issue...
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 01:31 PM
Sep 2019

They are going with a simple message of SOCIALISM with all the fear and lies that they are so good at. Their simple message in 2016 was about TRUST. The media, all media, keeps them alive and resonates their message because their product is no longer "News" but DRAMA. with for profit media ratings rule everything and no one watches a one-horse horse race.

rampartc

(5,385 posts)
10. they never lose a social issue
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 01:46 PM
Sep 2019

they are still fighting creationism and will fight to undo every step of progress made by gays, women, minorities, and everyone else.

keithbvadu2

(36,645 posts)
11. Pay attention to Trump when he says the economy is going down the drain if he is not reelected.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 02:04 PM
Sep 2019

Pay attention to Trump when he says the economy is going down the drain if he is not reelected.

He is telling us what shape he will leave the country in.

Despite his excuses, Trump gets full credit for any bad in the economy just as he takes full credit for any good in the economy.

Squinch

(50,911 posts)
13. No. It's all about white men having fewer advantages over women and people of color than they
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 02:28 PM
Sep 2019

used to.

White men were bred to believe they are entitled to bricks on the scale in their favor. They were bred to believe they were better than the rest of us because they had those bricks on the scale in their favor which made them more successful in the world than women and people of color. The loss of SOME of the bricks on the scale makes them realize they are mediocre. This makes many of them furious, and makes them want to make women and people of color pay for their icky feelings.

It's all about pwning the libs.

This cascade of emotional imbecility applies equally to (many - do I need that qualifier?) white men and to the women who are financially dependent on them.

lastlib

(23,143 posts)
14. We reject what they want to "conserve":
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 03:41 PM
Sep 2019

1) Wealth for the wealthy;
2) Power for the powerful;
3) Comfort for the comfortable;
4) Poverty for the poor;
5) Affliction for the afflicted.

Midnight Writer

(21,705 posts)
15. Fundamentalists who worship an authoritarian God want authoritarian leaders.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 03:53 PM
Sep 2019

It is about basic personality imprints, and has little to do with issues. For example, deficits were bad under Obama, OK under Trump. Elien Gonzales was a Republican battle cry, now republicans want to deport children receiving life saving medical treatment. Russia was The Evil Empire, now they are welcome to interfere in our elections.

Even Trump has admitted the Stock Market does better under Democrats, but every Republican I know will swear that the GOP are the best stewards of the economy.

Hekate

(90,541 posts)
16. At first & last, it is unshared power of life & death over all. This lust expresses itself ...
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 03:59 PM
Sep 2019

...in different guises: religion, money, patriotism.

There are many who express their religion for good, and are good people. There are those who know how to share their wealth. Whose love of country likewise.

But those who want the power of life and death over others know how to disguise themselves, manipulare others. How do you know, if instinct itself isn't enogh? "By their fruits ye shall know them."

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